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    Default Re: Bring back 15 round world title bouts

    Quote Originally Posted by Punisher136
    No one very force anybody else to box or put their body on the line. Boxers choose to be boxers and soldiers choose to be soldiers. They're bravery should be comended but in no way should they complain about something they did to themselves.
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    I box because the grand I earn in November gets treatment for my kid that isnt available otherwise
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    Default Re: Bring back 15 round world title bouts

    Quote Originally Posted by zzz
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker
    Why? I like 15 round fights, but is it worth putting extra risk on athletes in an already incredibly dangerous sport? I don't think it is, I'm happy with 10 and 12 rounders. I admire the guys who went 15 rounds because you have to have great stamina and be tough as nails, but I don't think they are necessary.
    Is there any evidence that reducing world title fights from 15 to 12 rounds resulted in less ring death or injury? Not that I can see.
    That was the reason they took away 15 roudners in the first place. They examined it and concluded that the most severe damage that a fighter sustains takes place in the 13th to 15th round.
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    Default Re: Bring back 15 round world title bouts

    Quote Originally Posted by Punisher136
    People who play in ANY TYPE OF CONTACT SPORT Can suffer from that. Helmet to helmet contact can cause that in football and as i said it differs from person to person and i don't see a problem with bringing back the 15 rounders.
    To me, your arguement is the same as if someone said "well there are tons of people who die in car accidents even when their seatbelt is on, so whats the point of seatbelts?"
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    Default Re: Bring back 15 round world title bouts

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker
    Quote Originally Posted by zzz
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker
    Why? I like 15 round fights, but is it worth putting extra risk on athletes in an already incredibly dangerous sport? I don't think it is, I'm happy with 10 and 12 rounders. I admire the guys who went 15 rounds because you have to have great stamina and be tough as nails, but I don't think they are necessary.
    Is there any evidence that reducing world title fights from 15 to 12 rounds resulted in less ring death or injury? Not that I can see.
    That was the reason they took away 15 roudners in the first place. They examined it and concluded that the most severe damage that a fighter sustains takes place in the 13th to 15th round.
    Actually no. They decided that fighters tend to get hurt more when they are tmore ired, so they took away some rounds reasoning that if they were less tired, they would get hurt less. There was no careful conclusive resarch, it was pretty much a knee jerk reaction that happened quite quickly. There is a certain logic I suppose, but that's about all.

    We are talking about reduction in length from 15 to 12 rounds for title bouts? Can anyone here convincingly say that at any time the majority of ring deaths happened in title bouts?


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    Default Re: Bring back 15 round world title bouts

    Ok well what is the good for 15 rounds? So we can get a few more rounds of action? So we can, in a way, get back to the "old school"?? These kinds of reasons do not justify making these athletes fight for 9 minutes more (and, as a consequence, take 9 minutes more of punishment while exhausted)? To me its stupid and unnecessary. Boxing is a brutal sport, and anyone who is in favor of making it harder and more brutal in any way simply does not have any respect for the athletes.

    And even from a spectator's point of view it still sucks. What will happen is that fighters will be taking more rounds off, saving energy to go 15 rounds, and we'll end up with much more slower paced rounds.
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    I dont think Duk Kim Koo and Ray Mancini would agree.
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    Default Re: Bring back 15 round world title bouts

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker
    Quote Originally Posted by Punisher136
    People who play in ANY TYPE OF CONTACT SPORT Can suffer from that. Helmet to helmet contact can cause that in football and as i said it differs from person to person and i don't see a problem with bringing back the 15 rounders.
    To me, your arguement is the same as if someone said "well there are tons of people who die in car accidents even when their seatbelt is on, so whats the point of seatbelts?"
    I hate the attitude that treats boxers like some kind of Human Cock Fight
    Its bad enough that theyre being ripped off 9 out of 10 by their promoters,its bad enough theres all kinds of slugs coming around for investments for them(why Joe Frazier live in an apartment over his gym)do they have to get freaking killed for peoples amusment as well?

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    Default Re: Bring back 15 round world title bouts

    weigh ins the same day, sure but 15 rounds....naaaaaaah buddy we don't need that

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    Default Re: Bring back 15 round world title bouts

    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker
    Quote Originally Posted by Punisher136
    People who play in ANY TYPE OF CONTACT SPORT Can suffer from that. Helmet to helmet contact can cause that in football and as i said it differs from person to person and i don't see a problem with bringing back the 15 rounders.
    To me, your arguement is the same as if someone said "well there are tons of people who die in car accidents even when their seatbelt is on, so whats the point of seatbelts?"
    I hate the attitude that treats boxers like some kind of Human Cock Fight
    Its bad enough that theyre being ripped off 9 out of 10 by their promoters,its bad enough theres all kinds of slugs coming around for investments for them(why Joe Frazier live in an apartment over his gym)do they have to get freaking killed for peoples amusment as well?
    I'm saying some people can take that damage and some people can't. Those that can't should not be in the sport. I'm saying if you choose a tough occupation and receive congratulations on your bravery for it you can't be allowed to complain about the physical injuries you receive from it. Now getting ripped off is a whole other story. If promoters wanna make all that money they should get their asses in the ring to collect it.

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    Default Re: Bring back 15 round world title bouts

    I like day-of-the-fight weigh ins but 15 rounders are a bad idea. It would be great for fights like Barrera-Morales or Gatti-Ward but not for 2 lazy, knackered heavyweights who have been struggling for stamina since round 4.


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    Default Re: Bring back 15 round world title bouts

    Quote Originally Posted by Sugar_Shaw
    I like day-of-the-fight weigh ins but 15 rounders are a bad idea. It would be great for fights like Barrera-Morales or Gatti-Ward but not for 2 lazy, knackered heavyweights who have been struggling for stamina since round 4.

    Same day weigh-ins cause more brain damage than 3 extra rounds.

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    Default Re: Bring back 15 round world title bouts

    It would stop people unhealthily cutting down to weights at which there bofy is not used though too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugar_Shaw
    It would stop people unhealthily cutting down to weights at which there bofy is not used though too
    No they'd still do it and be unbelievable de hydrated for the fight. There'd be muscle cramps abound and a lot more injuries. It would hurt the quality of the fight and the fighters themselves. 3 extra rounds while fully hydrated and nourished is better than going 12 lacking both.

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    Default Re: Bring back 15 round world title bouts

    Quote Originally Posted by Punisher136
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker
    Quote Originally Posted by Punisher136
    People who play in ANY TYPE OF CONTACT SPORT Can suffer from that. Helmet to helmet contact can cause that in football and as i said it differs from person to person and i don't see a problem with bringing back the 15 rounders.
    To me, your arguement is the same as if someone said "well there are tons of people who die in car accidents even when their seatbelt is on, so whats the point of seatbelts?"
    I hate the attitude that treats boxers like some kind of Human Cock Fight
    Its bad enough that theyre being ripped off 9 out of 10 by their promoters,its bad enough theres all kinds of slugs coming around for investments for them(why Joe Frazier live in an apartment over his gym)do they have to get freaking killed for peoples amusment as well?
    I'm saying some people can take that damage and some people can't. Those that can't should not be in the sport. I'm saying if you choose a tough occupation and receive congratulations on your bravery for it you can't be allowed to complain about the physical injuries you receive from it. Now getting ripped off is a whole other story. If promoters wanna make all that money they should get their asses in the ring to collect it.
    they used fight until the other quit too why not just bring that back,,so guys like gatti can become martyrs for the sport...because he would have keep going against floyd and been seriously hurt..so would have clinton woods against roy
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    Default Re: Bring back 15 round world title bouts

    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
    Quote Originally Posted by Punisher136
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker
    Quote Originally Posted by Punisher136
    People who play in ANY TYPE OF CONTACT SPORT Can suffer from that. Helmet to helmet contact can cause that in football and as i said it differs from person to person and i don't see a problem with bringing back the 15 rounders.
    To me, your arguement is the same as if someone said "well there are tons of people who die in car accidents even when their seatbelt is on, so whats the point of seatbelts?"
    I hate the attitude that treats boxers like some kind of Human Cock Fight
    Its bad enough that theyre being ripped off 9 out of 10 by their promoters,its bad enough theres all kinds of slugs coming around for investments for them(why Joe Frazier live in an apartment over his gym)do they have to get freaking killed for peoples amusment as well?
    I'm saying some people can take that damage and some people can't. Those that can't should not be in the sport. I'm saying if you choose a tough occupation and receive congratulations on your bravery for it you can't be allowed to complain about the physical injuries you receive from it. Now getting ripped off is a whole other story. If promoters wanna make all that money they should get their asses in the ring to collect it.
    they used fight until the other quit too why not just bring that back,,so guys like gatti can become martyrs for the sport...because he would have keep going against floyd and been seriously hurt..so would have clinton woods against roy
    As i've said before some people can take repeated punishment and some can't. I'm not suggesting a fight to the death as you seem to be implying that i am. People can die from 1 punch with amateur head gear on. They should be closely monitored between fights and when it appears that some is at high risk for brain damage, they should revoke their license.

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