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    Default Re: How would Bruce Lee have done fighting in professinal MMA

    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bigragu
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
    Jeet Kune Do
    The style of no style,he'd have eaten MMA up
    There isnt anyone in MMA that could take the one inch punch
    one inch punch is a joke, Bruce Lee was a joke....and if Chuck Norris hit Bruce with the spinning back kick, Brandon Lee would have been a still born......
    Yea, and IF your computer screen blows up you lose your face....same same i guess, pretty big "IF"
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    Default Re: How would Bruce Lee have done fighting in professinal MMA

    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111
    Jeet Kune Do would be seriously constricted in MMA....This "style of no style" so to speak has no rules as well....MMA does...so its null and void..

    Thats like a boxer not being able to use an uppercut or a hook to the body...

    Jeet Kune Do allows every part of your body as a weapon, and also atks all of the vulnerable areas of your opponent...This is not for sport...I don't know how else to explain it...
    No not really,Ive trained in Jeets sister form Ed Parker Ken Po
    The whole idea is to strike hard,and use what works in the situation you are in
    You just agreed me.....USE WHAT WORKS IN THE SITUATION YOU ARE IN!!! and guess what if your pinned down what would be stopping you from grabbing the groing or biting your opponent...>OHH thats right, the rules...how could i forget the rules...Rules are exactly what make JKD limited..>NOT USELESS>..just limited...Deal with it!
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    Default Re: How would Bruce Lee have done fighting in professinal MMA

    Get on youtube and watch his two inch punch that floors a 180 lb man.
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    Default Re: How would Bruce Lee have done fighting in professinal MMA

    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111
    Jeet Kune Do would be seriously constricted in MMA....This "style of no style" so to speak has no rules as well....MMA does...so its null and void..

    Thats like a boxer not being able to use an uppercut or a hook to the body...

    Jeet Kune Do allows every part of your body as a weapon, and also atks all of the vulnerable areas of your opponent...This is not for sport...I don't know how else to explain it...
    No not really,Ive trained in Jeets sister form Ed Parker Ken Po
    The whole idea is to strike hard,and use what works in the situation you are in
    You just agreed me.....USE WHAT WORKS IN THE SITUATION YOU ARE IN!!! and guess what if your pinned down what would be stopping you from grabbing the groing or biting your opponent...>OHH thats right, the rules...how could i forget the rules...Rules are exactly what make JKD limited..>NOT USELESS>..just limited...Deal with it!
    Not really,actually not at all,not one iota actually
    What is the situation in an MMA bout?
    Well deal with that
    Both styles describe the when and wheres of going dirty,that would obviously not be the correct situation
    We were trained to also know your social situation,and to understand that taking out an opponent while creating mutual respect,instead of lasting emnity was preferable
    But we were also trained that,sometimes its just gotta go away,dont play nice

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    Default Re: How would Bruce Lee have done fighting in professinal MMA

    Quote Originally Posted by Missy
    how dare you compare kenpo with Bruce Lee

    In several ways Lee was a pioneer of MMA lets not forget that he did borrow from styles, judo, boxing, fencing, mt, savate

    As cnote rightly pointed out jkd was/is not a sport and was never taught or practicised as a sport which ufc/pride is.

    The point was not to have every throw, choke and sub from judo but to have the simpilest and most direct action. A solid hip throw and the odd variation is good enough against the goon on the street, not for the mat.

    It wasn't as if he was advocating being a vigilante, whilst the Tao of JKD shows the method and thought behind JKD if you want to know what it is read his self defence books - that is JKD.
    Ed Parker Ken-Po is not proper Taiwan Ken Po
    Ed Parker was Lee's best friend in the states,and was heavily influenced by Lee
    How dare you not know the difference?

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    Default Re: How would Bruce Lee have done fighting in professinal MMA

    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bigragu
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
    Jeet Kune Do
    The style of no style,he'd have eaten MMA up
    There isnt anyone in MMA that could take the one inch punch
    one inch punch is a joke, Bruce Lee was a joke....and if Chuck Norris hit Bruce with the spinning back kick, Brandon Lee would have been a still born......
    Actually it wasn't mate! If you knew anything about boxing, fighting sports whatever, you'd know that how your body twists, leans, etc makes a difference to power.
    Bruce Lee once wrote in one of his books that this 'thing' he discovered, which he called 'Inner Force' or 'Focused Energy', was simply the way he put his whole body into it.
    So the 1-inch punch was very powerful and very effective.
    Bruce lee wasn't a joke, he existed. He isn't a myth. Lol.
    And Chuck Norris beating Bruce Lee? Highly unlikely.
    He even stated in a magazine interveiw that 'He [Bruce Lee] was alot stronger and more powerful then I am or anyone I have ever known. Would I have defeated him if that scene was real? No. I would have gave him a good run, but would of came of second best."

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    Default Re: How would Bruce Lee have done fighting in professinal MMA

    And do I think Lee would have dominated UFC or MMA?
    No, I believe he would of went very far, but there is always someone better.

    What do I find far out is the scene from that movie 'Cradle 2 the grave' starring DMX and Jet Li.
    I reckon Jet Li rocks, but that scene when he beats like 10 UFC fighters by himself. Highly unlikely.

    Then again, anything is possible in Hollywood.

    Haha.

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    Default Re: How would Bruce Lee have done fighting in professinal MMA

    the mans a legend, no doubt about that.. an mma fighter? not convinced.. even the lightweight fighters need well rounded grappling skills, perhaps if he'd lived in the MMA era he would have adapted his training though. He was an incredible athlete.

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    Default Re: How would Bruce Lee have done fighting in professinal MMA

    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
    Quote Originally Posted by Missy
    how dare you compare kenpo with Bruce Lee

    In several ways Lee was a pioneer of MMA lets not forget that he did borrow from styles, judo, boxing, fencing, mt, savate

    As cnote rightly pointed out jkd was/is not a sport and was never taught or practicised as a sport which ufc/pride is.

    The point was not to have every throw, choke and sub from judo but to have the simplest and most direct action. A solid hip throw and the odd variation is good enough against the goon on the street, not for the mat.

    It wasn't as if he was advocating being a vigilante, whilst the Tao of JKD shows the method and thought behind JKD if you want to know what it is read his self defence books - that is JKD.
    Ed Parker Ken-Po is not proper Taiwan Ken Po
    Ed Parker was Lee's best friend in the states,and was heavily influenced by Lee
    How dare you not know the difference?
    know or care? and for that matter every self defence class is influenced by Lee

    I think what is not in doubt is his athletic ability, determination and adaptability.

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    Default Re: How would Bruce Lee have done fighting in professinal MMA

    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111
    Jeet Kune Do would be seriously constricted in MMA....This "style of no style" so to speak has no rules as well....MMA does...so its null and void..

    Thats like a boxer not being able to use an uppercut or a hook to the body...

    Jeet Kune Do allows every part of your body as a weapon, and also atks all of the vulnerable areas of your opponent...This is not for sport...I don't know how else to explain it...
    No not really,Ive trained in Jeets sister form Ed Parker Ken Po
    The whole idea is to strike hard,and use what works in the situation you are in
    You just agreed me.....USE WHAT WORKS IN THE SITUATION YOU ARE IN!!! and guess what if your pinned down what would be stopping you from grabbing the groing or biting your opponent...>OHH thats right, the rules...how could i forget the rules...Rules are exactly what make JKD limited..>NOT USELESS>..just limited...Deal with it!
    Not really,actually not at all,not one iota actually
    What is the situation in an MMA bout?
    Well deal with that
    Both styles describe the when and wheres of going dirty,that would obviously not be the correct situation
    We were trained to also know your social situation,and to understand that taking out an opponent while creating mutual respect,instead of lasting emnity was preferable
    But we were also trained that,sometimes its just gotta go away,dont play nice
    According to Lee...and i quote "JKD is a style that should never be like the Bible in which the principles and Laws can never be violated." ie Rules according to sport...

    Don't get me wrong, Lee participated in many forms of competitive combat, but they were used as practice and training for the overall big picture...Oneness to the Art or Artlessness of JKD.

    The situation in MMA is not, or will never be what JKD is about...your being silly...I do however have a profound respect for you and your support to Lee and JKD...
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    Default Re: How would Bruce Lee have done fighting in professinal MMA

    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111
    Jeet Kune Do would be seriously constricted in MMA....This "style of no style" so to speak has no rules as well....MMA does...so its null and void..

    Thats like a boxer not being able to use an uppercut or a hook to the body...

    Jeet Kune Do allows every part of your body as a weapon, and also atks all of the vulnerable areas of your opponent...This is not for sport...I don't know how else to explain it...
    No not really,Ive trained in Jeets sister form Ed Parker Ken Po
    The whole idea is to strike hard,and use what works in the situation you are in
    You just agreed me.....USE WHAT WORKS IN THE SITUATION YOU ARE IN!!! and guess what if your pinned down what would be stopping you from grabbing the groing or biting your opponent...>OHH thats right, the rules...how could i forget the rules...Rules are exactly what make JKD limited..>NOT USELESS>..just limited...Deal with it!
    Not really,actually not at all,not one iota actually
    What is the situation in an MMA bout?
    Well deal with that
    Both styles describe the when and wheres of going dirty,that would obviously not be the correct situation
    We were trained to also know your social situation,and to understand that taking out an opponent while creating mutual respect,instead of lasting emnity was preferable
    But we were also trained that,sometimes its just gotta go away,dont play nice
    According to Lee...and i quote "JKD is a style that should never be like the Bible in which the principles and Laws can never be violated." ie Rules according to sport...

    Don't get me wrong, Lee participated in many forms of competitive combat, but they were used as practice and training for the overall big picture...Oneness to the Art or Artlessness of JKD.

    The situation in MMA is not, or will never be what JKD is about...your being silly...I do however have a profound respect for you and your support to Lee and JKD...
    Not really
    His point was,that forms and styles become dogmatic,rather then dealing with the situations at hand.
    Most instructors explain point blank,when teaching a kata in Ed Parker,that it will be a cold day in hell when all of your attackers are lined up exactly like the kata goes,but you need to get your head around the concept of multiple attackers.
    And as far as an inability to play by the rules,form 3 begins with a shot straight to the family jewels
    Have I ever,thrown a shot there in a tournament
    No,its never come up

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    Default Re: How would Bruce Lee have done fighting in professinal MMA

    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111
    Jeet Kune Do would be seriously constricted in MMA....This "style of no style" so to speak has no rules as well....MMA does...so its null and void..

    Thats like a boxer not being able to use an uppercut or a hook to the body...

    Jeet Kune Do allows every part of your body as a weapon, and also atks all of the vulnerable areas of your opponent...This is not for sport...I don't know how else to explain it...
    No not really,Ive trained in Jeets sister form Ed Parker Ken Po
    The whole idea is to strike hard,and use what works in the situation you are in
    You just agreed me.....USE WHAT WORKS IN THE SITUATION YOU ARE IN!!! and guess what if your pinned down what would be stopping you from grabbing the groing or biting your opponent...>OHH thats right, the rules...how could i forget the rules...Rules are exactly what make JKD limited..>NOT USELESS>..just limited...Deal with it!
    Not really,actually not at all,not one iota actually
    What is the situation in an MMA bout?
    Well deal with that
    Both styles describe the when and wheres of going dirty,that would obviously not be the correct situation
    We were trained to also know your social situation,and to understand that taking out an opponent while creating mutual respect,instead of lasting emnity was preferable
    But we were also trained that,sometimes its just gotta go away,dont play nice
    According to Lee...and i quote "JKD is a style that should never be like the Bible in which the principles and Laws can never be violated." ie Rules according to sport...

    Don't get me wrong, Lee participated in many forms of competitive combat, but they were used as practice and training for the overall big picture...Oneness to the Art or Artlessness of JKD.

    The situation in MMA is not, or will never be what JKD is about...your being silly...I do however have a profound respect for you and your support to Lee and JKD...
    Not really
    His point was,that forms and styles become dogmatic,rather then dealing with the situations at hand.
    Most instructors explain point blank,when teaching a kata in Ed Parker,that it will be a cold day in hell when all of your attackers are lined up exactly like the kata goes,but you need to get your head around the concept of multiple attackers.
    And as far as an inability to play by the rules,form 3 begins with a shot straight to the family jewels
    Have I ever,thrown a shot there in a tournament
    No,its never come up
    We both agree here, the only difference is our few on how well JKD works in MMA...and i think JKD becomes a bit restricted to its fullest potential when being used for sport...>JKD just wasn't designed for competition, and you will never convince me otherwise...And vice versa i guess...Maybe i'm just not understanding what point your trying to get across here...
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    Default Re: How would Bruce Lee have done fighting in professinal MMA

    Not entirely sure whether to take this thread seriously or not.

    Jeet Kune Do is self defence. Watch a Vunak vid and its very much around biting, gouging, groin strikes and using economy of motion to attack the most vulnerable target with the most direct tool.

    Thats not MMA.

    In answer to the original question, well, we will never know how Lee would have fared in the sport as it stands today. If he would have been plucked straight out of 1971 and put into the octagon against a top MMAist today then 'one inch punch' or not...he's getting soundly beaten. However with his attributes and if he trained in the sport of MMA and adapted some of his stuff he could no doubt have been a great contender.

    One of those things...we will never know.

    Lee developed the Jeet Kune Do system for self defence. Not as a sport.

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    Default Re: How would Bruce Lee have done fighting in professinal MMA

    Hey it is not a real match / fight.

    It is a stunt "seen"


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