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    Default Re: Could Paul Williams be the man to beat Floyd?

    After seeing tonight's performance i would at least give him a 50/50 shot at beating mayweather.

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    Default Re: Could Paul Williams be the man to beat Floyd?

    No way, I mean come on Pauls def. got skill and has proved tonight he can hang at World Class but there is no way Paul would win 6 straight rounds against PBF.

    I think Bilbo you got carried away with this one here.


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    Default Re: Could Paul Williams be the man to beat Floyd?

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick
    No way, I mean come on Pauls def. got skill and has proved tonight he can hang at World Class but there is no way Paul would win 6 straight rounds against PBF.

    I think Bilbo you got carried away with this one here.

    I'm only asking the question bro

    I think stylistically Williams poses a problem Floyd has never had before.

    The only real tall guy he's fought was Coralles who towered over him at 5 ft 11. Williams made Margarito look tiny Floyd will look like Eddie Chambers going up against Valuev if this fight happened!

    I'd imagine Williams would outweigh him by 20 lbs come fight night plus he's just relentless with punch output.

    If Floyd found a way to nullify Williams I'd be far more impressed than if he fought and beat Hatton or Mosely, fighters whose styles we already know he has the tools to deal with.

    I really hope we can get to see this fight, and as long as Williams keeps winning there is every chance we will........

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    Default Re: Could Paul Williams be the man to beat Floyd?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick
    No way, I mean come on Pauls def. got skill and has proved tonight he can hang at World Class but there is no way Paul would win 6 straight rounds against PBF.

    I think Bilbo you got carried away with this one here.

    I'm only asking the question bro

    I think stylistically Williams poses a problem Floyd has never had before.

    The only real tall guy he's fought was Coralles who towered over him at 5 ft 11. Williams made Margarito look tiny Floyd will look like Eddie Chambers going up against Valuev if this fight happened!

    I'd imagine Williams would outweigh him by 20 lbs come fight night plus he's just relentless with punch output.

    If Floyd found a way to nullify Williams I'd be far more impressed than if he fought and beat Hatton or Mosely, fighters whose styles we already know he has the tools to deal with.

    I really hope we can get to see this fight, and as long as Williams keeps winning there is every chance we will........
    i thought so too..but williams' jab isn't a punishing jab and he'd get exploited everytime he throws it...also just like when hopkins fought the taller tarver...tarver was always open for the right hand because he had to punch low to find the shorter man...williams' already suffers defensively, because his punch out put serves as his defence..something else i noticed, williams legs arent that great he uses his punches to blind his opponent while he moves to other angles..when marg put the pressure on him he couldn't really rely on his legs to get away...as you can see that all of his weight is upper body, and floyd would really exploit him technically...but williams has a chance because he's huge and should fighting up there with pavlik and taylor..he came in tonight at 162...but if he doesn't have power at ww he certainly wouldn't hurt those guys...
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    Default Re: Could Paul Williams be the man to beat Floyd?

    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather+Mosley
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick
    No way, I mean come on Pauls def. got skill and has proved tonight he can hang at World Class but there is no way Paul would win 6 straight rounds against PBF.

    I think Bilbo you got carried away with this one here.

    I'm only asking the question bro

    I think stylistically Williams poses a problem Floyd has never had before.

    The only real tall guy he's fought was Coralles who towered over him at 5 ft 11. Williams made Margarito look tiny Floyd will look like Eddie Chambers going up against Valuev if this fight happened!

    I'd imagine Williams would outweigh him by 20 lbs come fight night plus he's just relentless with punch output.

    If Floyd found a way to nullify Williams I'd be far more impressed than if he fought and beat Hatton or Mosely, fighters whose styles we already know he has the tools to deal with.

    I really hope we can get to see this fight, and as long as Williams keeps winning there is every chance we will........
    i thought so too..but williams' jab isn't a punishing jab and he'd get exploited everytime he throws it...also just like when hopkins fought the taller tarver...tarver was always open for the right hand because he had to punch low to find the shorter man...williams' already suffers defensively, because his punch out put serves as his defence..something else i noticed, williams legs arent that great he uses his punches to blind his opponent while he moves to other angles..when marg put the pressure on him he couldn't really rely on his legs to get away...as you can see that all of his weight is upper body, and floyd would really exploit him technically...but williams has a chance because he's huge and should fighting up there with pavlik and taylor..he came in tonight at 162...but if he doesn't have power at ww he certainly wouldn't hurt those guys...
    Ah mate I owe you another cc in 24. Your'e the only person so far who has come up with reasons as to why Williams wouldn't be able to win.

    I think he probably does have the potential for power but he doesn't put any weight behind his shots. He clearly aims for quantity over quality. It still works for him though and it sure makes him exciting to watch.

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    Default Re: Could Paul Williams be the man to beat Floyd?

    Tough fight to figure out. I want to see more of Williams. He did well with Margarito although the style might be good for him. But he is tall and he has a high workrate so getting inside on him would be tough, although a guy like Floyd would do well, although the size difference would be enormous. That would be an odd fight.

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    Default Re: Could Paul Williams be the man to beat Floyd?

    Williams is a nightmare stylewise for Floyd, I would wager a good sum that he'd never take this fight.

    I know this will upset Floyd fans, but I have made posts about how Floyd in his brilliant career has avoided southpaws. Before anyone gets riled up consider the facts.
    1.) With all the southpaws in the lightweight, Jr welterwt. and welterweight divisions, Mayweather has only fought three in his last 34 fights. It is more than a coincidence.
    2. How could it be that Carlos Baldomir looked as good against Judah as Mayweather did, but when Baldomir an orthodox fighter fought Mayweather he was outclassed? Could it just be Baldomir is better with southpaws than Mayweather?
    3.)After Spadafora did a number on him in their well known sparring session, Mayweather was offered a match with Spadafora but turned it down. Spadafora admittedly is not in Mayweather's class, but he is a southpaw.

    I'm not saying Williams is as good as Mayweather, just that he has the style to beat him and that my friends is not the same thing.

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    Default Re: Could Paul Williams be the man to beat Floyd?

    Paul Williams work rate is defined against fighters like Mathysse and Tony and those are not exactly the blue-prints for a Mayweather fight, I guess Floyd would beat him to the punch and would be in and out, mostly on the move in a very uninteresting fight and another unanimous decision for Floyd

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    Default Re: Could Paul Williams be the man to beat Floyd?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorfmeister
    Paul Williams work rate is defined against fighters like Mathysse and Tony and those are not exactly the blue-prints for a Mayweather fight, I guess Floyd would beat him to the punch and would be in and out, mostly on the move in a very uninteresting fight and another unanimous decision for Floyd
    The thought of Floyd fighting the man who beat the man Floyd fears the most is preposterous. I do not see Floyd entertaining this thought one bit. Floyd will stay retired and with good reason. The warrios in the WWD are too many. I think Judah could beat Floyd in a rematch. That should be a fight to make and watch. We all know Floyd will not fight Cotto that is for damn sure. I said a long time ago that Cotto was going to unify but damn it if this division is not getting thick as a brick with Lions of all types War Cotto!

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    Default Re: Could Paul Williams be the man to beat Floyd?

    Quote Originally Posted by Danny_G
    Quote Originally Posted by Dorfmeister
    Paul Williams work rate is defined against fighters like Mathysse and Tony and those are not exactly the blue-prints for a Mayweather fight, I guess Floyd would beat him to the punch and would be in and out, mostly on the move in a very uninteresting fight and another unanimous decision for Floyd
    The thought of Floyd fighting the man who beat the man Floyd fears the most is preposterous. I do not see Floyd entertaining this thought one bit. Floyd will stay retired and with good reason. The warrios in the WWD are too many. I think Judah could beat Floyd in a rematch. That should be a fight to make and watch. We all know Floyd will not fight Cotto that is for damn sure. I said a long time ago that Cotto was going to unify but damn it if this division is not getting thick as a brick with Lions of all types War Cotto!
    I didn't know retirement consisted of setting fights in November

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    Default Re: Could Paul Williams be the man to beat Floyd?

    Quote Originally Posted by Danny_G
    Quote Originally Posted by Dorfmeister
    Paul Williams work rate is defined against fighters like Mathysse and Tony and those are not exactly the blue-prints for a Mayweather fight, I guess Floyd would beat him to the punch and would be in and out, mostly on the move in a very uninteresting fight and another unanimous decision for Floyd
    The thought of Floyd fighting the man who beat the man Floyd fears the most is preposterous. I do not see Floyd entertaining this thought one bit. Floyd will stay retired and with good reason. The warrios in the WWD are too many. I think Judah could beat Floyd in a rematch. That should be a fight to make and watch. We all know Floyd will not fight Cotto that is for damn sure. I said a long time ago that Cotto was going to unify but damn it if this division is not getting thick as a brick with Lions of all types War Cotto!
    You clearly don't know jack sh!t about boxing. Judah's my all time favorite fighter and he stands zero chance at EVER beating Floyd. Perhaps you should take up watching women's basketball.

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    Default Re: Could Paul Williams be the man to beat Floyd?

    I understand what Bilbo is trying to say. Nobody is trying to say that Williams is a better fighter than Floyd by any stretch of the word. However, we are talking about a guy that will have a good 10 to 15 inch cussion to throw punches at will. He's constantly using that jab. He averages almost a 100 pounches per round. He's going to be facing a guy in Maywether who probably won't be able to hurt him(at least not with one pounch). All these things point at a very tough fight for PBF. And most would agree that the one thing that could beat Floyd is someone who can come out and out work him.

    There is no sense spaculating anyway cuz this fight won't happen. At least not untill Williams has made a couple more fights and turned into a big draw.

    I for one would like to see more of him. Maybe a fight against Cintron while Cotto fights Mosley and Floyd fights Hatton.


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    Default Re: Could Paul Williams be the man to beat Floyd?

    Quote Originally Posted by skyler
    Floyd would embarrass Williams worse than he did Corrales.






    Agreed.....The only thing that was impressive about Williams last night was his work rate...He never hurt Tony...Hell he never even paused Tony....

    Margarito made the same mistake Hopkins did...He let too many early rounds go....If Tony came out took the first two rounds then took off the next 4 or 5 he will still have his title....

    I give Williams credit he earned the win but IMO it was more due to what Margarito did not do then What Williams did






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    Default Re: Could Paul Williams be the man to beat Floyd?

    Mayweather will play with Williams if they fight...

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    Default Re: Could Paul Williams be the man to beat Floyd?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
    Quote Originally Posted by skyler
    Floyd would embarrass Williams worse than he did Corrales.






    Agreed.....The only thing that was impressive about Williams last night was his work rate...He never hurt Tony...Hell he never even paused Tony....

    Margarito made the same mistake Hopkins did...He let too many early rounds go....If Tony came out took the first two rounds then took off the next 4 or 5 he will still have his title....

    I give Williams credit he earned the win but IMO it was more due to what Margarito did not do then What Williams did






    I don't see how he could embarrass him. Coralles was taylor made for Floyd that night he just stalked Floyd around the ring trying to land the perfect shot. Of course against Floyd's speed that time was never going to come and he just got beat to the punch time and time again.

    Williams doesn't wait for the perfect opportunity to throw he just throws with abandon. Sure he'll get countered we saw that against Mitchell but if Floyd can't back him up he'll just keep on throwing and throwing.

    Watching Floyd fight Oscar I think it's fair to say that had Oscar thrown more he could have won that fight, well Williams would probably double Oscar's output.

    It's a very hard style matchup in my opinon. I actually think Cotto would do better against Williams because he would just get inside and rip to the body but Floyd isn't an inside fighter and he's not a pressure fighter either nor does he have the power of Cotto.

    Floyd's plan of evade and pot shot with single power shots imo wouldn't work against Williams and so he would need to adopt another tactic.

    Not saying Floyd couldn't do it, but I'd love to see how he responded to that challenge.

    A fight with Hatton imo is already a forgone conclusion in terms of outcome. Floyd outboxes him with ease, keeping well out of the way of any Hatton body shots and strafing him with stinging right hands.

    The Williams fight is a different puzzle for Floyd and one he's not experienced yet.

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