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    Default Re: larry holmes vs lennox lewis

    Listen holmes has a better chin then lewis and is faster then lewis and that is all i am going to say

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    Default Re: larry holmes vs lennox lewis

    Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H
    ICE who did Holmes fight that was better than.......

    Ruddock
    Morrison
    Mercer
    Golota (at the time )
    Tucker
    Briggs
    Akinwande
    Tua
    Holyfield
    Klitchko


    I am not asking you to disect the pereiods of their careers when they fought, I just think that you should check out Holmes' era if you think Lewis fought some bums

    As I've stated before I think Holmes would UD Lewis, but you won't find many better resumes in history than Lewis
    Most of these guys you have just mentioned were already victims im not sure if you know what i mean by that i'll you a example.

    Ruddock= Tyson already beat him twice

    Morrison= Bentt already finished him in less than 2 minutes and Mercer almost killed Morrison

    Mercer= Holyfield already beat him Holmes did and Jesse ferguson enuff said

    Golota= now i give him alot of credit for this win considering Golota battered Bowe twice

    Tucker= Tyson already got to him BIG H and was 35 if i remember

    Briggs= got a gift off Foreman actually forget that it was a robbery and he also got stopped in 3 rounds by that
    other mediocre chump but i can't remember his name at moment

    Akiwande= the hugger ?? well he may of had good record but imo he isn't that good of a fighter more of a hugger than a fighter im sure your agree


    I won't go into the others but what im saying is that most of Lewis's best wins were washed up fighters like Holyfield and Tyson i give Lewis credit and im not saying Holmes beat better opp but he did dominate his era and beating some good undefeated fighters like.



    Gerry Cooney
    Tim Witherspoon
    Carl Williams
    Renaldo Snipes


    And of course his two best wins

    Earnie Shavers just before he fought Holmes in 1st fight he almost beat Ali and in 2nd fight with Holmes just before he fought Holmes he destroyed Norton in 1.

    Ken Norton some may say he was washed up but i disagree he almost beat Ali and he also beat Jimmy Young who was just coming off giving Foreman a boxing lesson.


    I give Lewis credit for beating.

    Andrew Golota

    Gary Mason because of his power and because Lewis only had like 14 fights at that time
    Ruddock because of how early he done

    Tua

    Holyfield

    Klitschko

    And thats about it really i don't give him much credit for Mercer because he should of handled Mercer alot easier yet he made it alot of hard work and Mercer was never a great boxer and imo the fight was a draw.
    You've just disected all of his opponents which was not the point, becuase you can do that with almost every heavyweight in history. Lewis' era and Lewis' opponetnts blitz Holmes' era and Holmes' oppoistion period!!

    Still say Larry would win, but please Lewis' opposition just isn't comparable
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    Default Re: larry holmes vs lennox lewis

    i give Lewis credit and im not saying Holmes beat better opp but he did dominate his era.

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    Default Re: larry holmes vs lennox lewis

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H
    Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H
    ICE who did Holmes fight that was better than.......

    Ruddock
    Morrison
    Mercer
    Golota (at the time )
    Tucker
    Briggs
    Akinwande
    Tua
    Holyfield
    Klitchko


    I am not asking you to disect the pereiods of their careers when they fought, I just think that you should check out Holmes' era if you think Lewis fought some bums

    As I've stated before I think Holmes would UD Lewis, but you won't find many better resumes in history than Lewis
    Most of these guys you have just mentioned were already victims im not sure if you know what i mean by that i'll you a example.

    Ruddock= Tyson already beat him twice

    Morrison= Bentt already finished him in less than 2 minutes and Mercer almost killed Morrison

    Mercer= Holyfield already beat him Holmes did and Jesse ferguson enuff said

    Golota= now i give him alot of credit for this win considering Golota battered Bowe twice

    Tucker= Tyson already got to him BIG H and was 35 if i remember

    Briggs= got a gift off Foreman actually forget that it was a robbery and he also got stopped in 3 rounds by that
    other mediocre chump but i can't remember his name at moment

    Akiwande= the hugger ?? well he may of had good record but imo he isn't that good of a fighter more of a hugger than a fighter im sure your agree


    I won't go into the others but what im saying is that most of Lewis's best wins were washed up fighters like Holyfield and Tyson i give Lewis credit and im not saying Holmes beat better opp but he did dominate his era and beating some good undefeated fighters like.



    Gerry Cooney
    Tim Witherspoon
    Carl Williams
    Renaldo Snipes


    And of course his two best wins

    Earnie Shavers just before he fought Holmes in 1st fight he almost beat Ali and in 2nd fight with Holmes just before he fought Holmes he destroyed Norton in 1.

    Ken Norton some may say he was washed up but i disagree he almost beat Ali and he also beat Jimmy Young who was just coming off giving Foreman a boxing lesson.


    I give Lewis credit for beating.

    Andrew Golota

    Gary Mason because of his power and because Lewis only had like 14 fights at that time
    Ruddock because of how early he done

    Tua

    Holyfield

    Klitschko

    And thats about it really i don't give him much credit for Mercer because he should of handled Mercer alot easier yet he made it alot of hard work and Mercer was never a great boxer and imo the fight was a draw.
    You've just disected all of his opponents which was not the point, becuase you can do that with almost every heavyweight in history. Lewis' era and Lewis' opponetnts blitz Holmes' era and Holmes' oppoistion period!!

    Still say Larry would win, but please Lewis' opposition just isn't comparable
    It isn't ??

    Andrew Golota------ Gerry Cooney
    Mike Tyson-------- Muhammad Ali


    These wins are very similar because Cooney and Golota were undefeated and were considered very dangerous at that time and were both the next white hope.

    Ali and Tyson two similar victorys aswell both were way past it when they got beaten and both are legends

    Lewis beat a very old Holyfield and this could compare with Holmes beating Ken Norton who was getting on a bit aswell but Holyfield was more past it than Norton.

    Lennox Lewis beat very dangerous puncher Ruddock Holmes beat very dangerous puncher Shavers.

    Actually there are few for similarities than you think

    Lewis's other good wins

    Vitali
    Mercer
    Tua
    Mason
    Morrison
    Tucker

    Holmes other good wins

    Tim Witherspoon
    Carl Williams
    Trevor Berbick
    Mike Weaver
    James Smith
    Renaldo Snipes
    Leon Spinks


    This is the part when Lewis's opposition is better because Lewis beat alot more goodish opposition than Holmes but compare there best wins there isn't that much difference.

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    Default Re: larry holmes vs lennox lewis

    Did Holmes actually win the Witherspoon and Williams fights - they seem to be debatable?
    Also Bonecrusher Smith gave him a close, tough fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob
    Did Holmes actually win the Witherspoon and Williams fights - they seem to be debatable?
    Also Bonecrusher Smith gave him a close, tough fight.
    Holmes just about won the Witherspoon fight and Williams fight well actually Williams was ahead 3 rounds at one point but lost last 4 rounds and Holmes just stole it by a point.

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    Default Re: larry holmes vs lennox lewis

    Holmes would KO Lewis by drop kicking him off the bonnet of a Punto

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    Default Re: larry holmes vs lennox lewis

    In the battle of the Jabs i think Larry would take this one hands down in a UD.

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    Default Re: larry holmes vs lennox lewis

    I pick Lewis late KO.

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    Default Re: larry holmes vs lennox lewis

    larry holmes at his best would beat lewis like a drum , trust me. the jab the footwork, everything holmes did was better, larry had great rhythm in his prime . holmes wins either by late r stoppage or blanket dec victory

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    Default Re: larry holmes vs lennox lewis

    Larry on his toes pumping that jab to a close UD. Lennox comes on late and even puts larry down once but gets outworked, frustrated and outboxed for most of the fight.
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    Default Re: larry holmes vs lennox lewis

    Lennox Lewis did not like jabbers & Holmes had the 2nd best jab in HW history (I would only rate Liston's higher, for power, though not as sharp as Holmes' jab).

    Larry could control an entire fight with his jab.

    If the ponderous Frank Bruno could outjab Lewis, then Larry would have jabbed his head off.

    To be fair to Lewis, he was not in his boxing prime in 1993. He was still reckless & Right hand happy under Pepe Correa at that time.

    The Lewis of 1997 - 2001 would have been a different proposition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syntax Error
    Lennox Lewis did not like jabbers & Holmes had the 2nd best jab in HW history (I would only rate Liston's higher, for power, though not as sharp as Holmes' jab).

    Larry could control an entire fight with his jab.

    If the ponderous Frank Bruno could outjab Lewis, then Larry would have jabbed his head off.

    To be fair to Lewis, he was not in his boxing prime in 1993. He was still reckless & Right hand happy under Pepe Correa at that time.

    The Lewis of 1997 - 2001 would have been a different proposition.
    Agreed.

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    Default Re: larry holmes vs lennox lewis

    Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
    Quote Originally Posted by Syntax Error
    Lennox Lewis did not like jabbers & Holmes had the 2nd best jab in HW history (I would only rate Liston's higher, for power, though not as sharp as Holmes' jab).

    Larry could control an entire fight with his jab.

    If the ponderous Frank Bruno could outjab Lewis, then Larry would have jabbed his head off.

    To be fair to Lewis, he was not in his boxing prime in 1993. He was still reckless & Right hand happy under Pepe Correa at that time.

    The Lewis of 1997 - 2001 would have been a different proposition.
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    Default Re: larry holmes vs lennox lewis

    Holmes wins a decision
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