Vasquez-Marquez II anyone?

**El Gamo** · 08-02-2007 10:44 PM

I've been trying to hype this fight,I think Isreal has been working on his tactics but I still favour Rafa.I just think he is the overall better fighter and Isreal always has problems with any sort of lateral movement. Vazquez has also been chopping and changing trainers on a regular basis,which surely unsettles him at some point. Marquez wins this for me.

**No Contest** · 08-02-2007 11:32 PM

I dont know but I think the chnge of trainers may be the right thing for him. He's got Barreras trainer now,Rudy Perez, I think this guy knows how to crack Marquez. I might get a little heat for this , but I think Roach is a bit overrated as a trainer. He seems to have alot of fighters he trains constantly, and lately his fighters have been losing their fair share...what got him this popularity? Working with Pacquiao? I liked the part of that interview you posted where they talked about weathering the storm the first few rounds. Thats exactly what he didnt do in the first fight, look for him to be looking to counter and keeping his defense tight in the opening.

**Galaxy** · 08-03-2007 12:25 AM

I'm really looking forward to this fight, I think it'll be better than the 1st! I don't see this fight going the distance again. I think both guys are pretty evenly matched (Marquez maybe slightly better skilled) but I think the difference will be Rafael's punching power!

**CutMeMick** · 08-03-2007 03:59 AM

Can't wait for this here.... I was ringside for their 1st meeting and was wishing Cali landed the re-match but a las it's in Texas...

It should be better then the 1st match....

Still rooting for Marquez

by TKO.

**No Contest** · 08-03-2007 04:02 AM

I just saw the replay on Shotime the other day, I could have swore I heard you leading a chant for Marquez! Marquez!

**CutMeMick** · 08-03-2007 04:16 AM

Originally Posted by No Contest

I just saw the replay on Shotime the other day, I could have swore I heard you leading a chant for Marquez! Marquez!

Don't know if your joking or not but plenty of times I started chanting like a mad man....

No Contest, not sure if you've seen this before but I put together a thread about that fight just incase you missed it heres the link.
Videos and great photos included.

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_fo...c,43924.0.html

**No Contest** · 08-03-2007 04:32 AM

Yeah I saw that, thats why I said it

Too bad Vasquez is gonna take your boy out

Vasquez! Vasquez!

**CutMeMick** · 08-03-2007 04:58 AM

Originally Posted by No Contest

Yeah I saw that, thats why I said it

Too bad Vasquez is gonna take your boy out

Vasquez! Vasquez!

Oddly enough I think the stoppage will come sooner this time around.

Marquez tends to better himself/up himself in rematches, I'm thinking on a 5th rd. stoppage.

**LeftHookToTheBody** · 08-03-2007 05:38 AM

To me, it's very telling that Roach refused to work the fight because he felt Vasquez was rushing back from the injury. That is a hefty pay day to turn down on Roach's part. I'm going to go Marquez stoppage in the 8th, but Vasquez will make it a battle.

**Kev** · 08-03-2007 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by LeftHookToTheBody

To me, it's very telling that Roach refused to work the fight because he felt Vasquez was rushing back from the injury. That is a hefty pay day to turn down on Roach's part. I'm going to go Marquez stoppage in the 8th, but Vasquez will make it a battle.

Considering Roach would probably sell his own mother for cash, (or at least ditch all of his other boxers) then he must indeed think it's a really bad idea for Vasquez to come back so soon.

**Punisher136** · 08-03-2007 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by Bilbo

Originally Posted by LeftHookToTheBody

To me, it's very telling that Roach refused to work the fight because he felt Vasquez was rushing back from the injury. That is a hefty pay day to turn down on Roach's part. I'm going to go Marquez stoppage in the 8th, but Vasquez will make it a battle.

Considering Roach would probably sell his own mother for cash, (or at least ditch all of his other boxers) then he must indeed think it's a really bad idea for Vasquez to come back so soon.

If i'm not mistaken roach was toney's trainer for his rahman fight, what the hell does he know about somebody not being able to win? Yeah i was one of the people rooting for toney to dominate the division but in retrospect, he was done by then.