Joe Calzaghe invites Kelly Pavlik to Cardiff.

[Mr140]

Personal i hope Joe wins and gets some props for his career and by the way what has Kess done that so great i dont know the fighters he beat that well either i mean the SMW division has been weak for a while so i do not know who Cal could of ducked Bernard and Jones were not even in his weight class

[sexydarin]

Shut your mouth joe and let your fists do the talking. Kelly pavlik is the epitomy of humbleness.

[Dark Lord Al]

Personal i hope Joe wins and gets some props for his career and by the way what has Kess done that so great i dont know the fighters he beat that well either i mean the SMW division has been weak for a while so i do not know who Cal could of ducked Bernard and Jones were not even in his weight class

LOL nice one lol
KELLY PAVLIK IS ALSO NOT IN JOE'S WEIGHT CLASS HAHAHA
Yes and just for the record this is not a fight in the same catagory as Lloyd Honeyghan v Don Curry
Kessler looks a good fighter but let face it SM sucks

[Dark Lord Al]

wow you guys are F****** pathetic...

You got a ring champion inviting another ring champion over to a fight for a possible future show down and you F****** cry babys moan? seriously

Calzaghe has rpetty much fought and beat the best in his deivsion for years and tried to get the ottke fight... Robin reid, brewer, michel, shiek, viet, lacy all of them were built up to be something, viet was coming in with the rep kessler has, just without the belt, sheika was the next mike tyson, ried was the real wbc champ who got screwed over in ermany, mitchel got screwed in germany, brewer screwed in germany everyone who seen the fights new it...

Just coz the us and europe built up these people he handled should not be blamed on Joe - he has fought the next big thing last year, and again fighting the number 1 ranked SMW and looking to fight the undisputed middleweight champ in future and you guys are giving him S***? pull your heads out of your arses will you

Preme I really cba getting into one of these disputes I'll post my reasons why another time

Here's why I think he's a joke the same as what I posted the other day:

Joe Calzaghe is a total joke. A world title fight of his 2Oth defence and he chooses Peter Manfredo COME ON how low can you get AND THE FUNNY THING IS MANFREDO NEVER EVEN WON THE CONTENDER SHOW . Let's look hu else he BEAT. Beat an overrated Lacy, Eubank years ago and he still goes on about it, Sakio Bika hues AVERAGE

Tocker Pudwill
Kabary Salem
Evans Ashira
Rick Thornberry
Branko Sobot
Mger Mkrtchian
Miguel Angel Jimenez Who are these people

Come on Bro please look at the above names they might have good records but have beat nobodys and not really World Champion contenders. So Joe Calzaghe he bloody well should be undefeated fighting fighters like that. All in his backyard as well. One of the reasons I really respect Ricky Hatton for is having the balls to go to the US and fight the best. 3 world champs at two different weights in his last four fights for Hatton and one unification bout and he won them all. Joe is a joke mate just accept it, yes he's got talent but it's wasted British talent. Where is Calzaghe-Ottke at least Hatton fought Kostya Tszyu the main one in his division no matter how old he was because 7 months earlier he knocked out Sharma Mitchell in 3 so he couldn't of been that much past it.

But then again your Welsh so whatever I or anyone else says there will always be a reason in your eyes why JC is great.

I'll say the same thign to you as i do to any other person, rather than name me the people he fought, and find ways to discredit them, you tell me who he should of fought and why it was his fault it didn't happen...

He signed his contract to fight hopkins, hopkins doubled an alreadyc raeer high pure to make sure that never happened...

Ottke made it perfectly clear he was never going to step in the ring with Joe again...

That leaves, lets see, Roy jones jr? one name who no one can say for certain as to why it didn't happen, Roy was offered more than 5.5mil for the fight but its to hard to find the detials for that, and if you want to base hate on the fact there was one name he didn't fight than you full of S***, coz there are alot more names that people will say hopkins and roy should of fought yet love them for it...

Oh, there is glen johnson thats just up to you or anyone else weather you want to believe joe was hurt or he ducked him i don't care...

Jones was at Lightheavyweight before Calzaghe even won the title so your telling me that the P4P number 1 fighter has to accept to drop down in weight and fight over in UK and i assume its UK because Calzaghe wouldn't go to USA and Jones has to do all this against a fighter who was not even known in USA ?? get real.

Ice we are totally on the same wave lenghth here mate Calzaghe has fought no dangermen who someone else hasnt had a piece of before him

[Mr140]

Well all i am saying dark is i hope Cal can prove how good he is that he thinks he is in his mind i going with Cal for the record

[Mr140]

And ice this is a bit off topic but what time is it in England right now ever time i look or log on this forum you seem to be do you not go to school dude

[Preme]

wow you guys are F****** pathetic...

You got a ring champion inviting another ring champion over to a fight for a possible future show down and you F****** cry babys moan? seriously

Calzaghe has rpetty much fought and beat the best in his deivsion for years and tried to get the ottke fight... Robin reid, brewer, michel, shiek, viet, lacy all of them were built up to be something, viet was coming in with the rep kessler has, just without the belt, sheika was the next mike tyson, ried was the real wbc champ who got screwed over in ermany, mitchel got screwed in germany, brewer screwed in germany everyone who seen the fights new it...

Just coz the us and europe built up these people he handled should not be blamed on Joe - he has fought the next big thing last year, and again fighting the number 1 ranked SMW and looking to fight the undisputed middleweight champ in future and you guys are giving him S***? pull your heads out of your arses will you

Preme I really cba getting into one of these disputes I'll post my reasons why another time

Here's why I think he's a joke the same as what I posted the other day:

Joe Calzaghe is a total joke. A world title fight of his 2Oth defence and he chooses Peter Manfredo COME ON how low can you get AND THE FUNNY THING IS MANFREDO NEVER EVEN WON THE CONTENDER SHOW . Let's look hu else he BEAT. Beat an overrated Lacy, Eubank years ago and he still goes on about it, Sakio Bika hues AVERAGE

Tocker Pudwill
Kabary Salem
Evans Ashira
Rick Thornberry
Branko Sobot
Mger Mkrtchian
Miguel Angel Jimenez Who are these people

Come on Bro please look at the above names they might have good records but have beat nobodys and not really World Champion contenders. So Joe Calzaghe he bloody well should be undefeated fighting fighters like that. All in his backyard as well. One of the reasons I really respect Ricky Hatton for is having the balls to go to the US and fight the best. 3 world champs at two different weights in his last four fights for Hatton and one unification bout and he won them all. Joe is a joke mate just accept it, yes he's got talent but it's wasted British talent. Where is Calzaghe-Ottke at least Hatton fought Kostya Tszyu the main one in his division no matter how old he was because 7 months earlier he knocked out Sharma Mitchell in 3 so he couldn't of been that much past it.

But then again your Welsh so whatever I or anyone else says there will always be a reason in your eyes why JC is great.

I'll say the same thign to you as i do to any other person, rather than name me the people he fought, and find ways to discredit them, you tell me who he should of fought and why it was his fault it didn't happen...

He signed his contract to fight hopkins, hopkins doubled an alreadyc raeer high pure to make sure that never happened...

Ottke made it perfectly clear he was never going to step in the ring with Joe again...

That leaves, lets see, Roy jones jr? one name who no one can say for certain as to why it didn't happen, Roy was offered more than 5.5mil for the fight but its to hard to find the detials for that, and if you want to base hate on the fact there was one name he didn't fight than you full of S***, coz there are alot more names that people will say hopkins and roy should of fought yet love them for it...

Oh, there is glen johnson thats just up to you or anyone else weather you want to believe joe was hurt or he ducked him i don't care...

Jones was at Lightheavyweight before Calzaghe even won the title so your telling me that the P4P number 1 fighter has to accept to drop down in weight and fight over in UK and i assume its UK because Calzaghe wouldn't go to USA and Jones has to do all this against a fighter who was not even known in USA ?? get real.

your age lets you down some times ice;

shika was being build as the SMW mike tyson, i ain't saying he should of but thats the build up he was getting

roy jones was the one who spoke about calzaghe and said HE WANTED to come down to SMW to fight him...

Calzaghe always said he would got ot he us to fight the big names, and proved that to me when he signed to fight hopkins in MSG, weather you believe or not he would of gone, or pulled out or anything else, he signed to fight there, hopkins pulled out.

[Dark Lord Al]

wow you guys are F****** pathetic...

You got a ring champion inviting another ring champion over to a fight for a possible future show down and you F****** cry babys moan? seriously

Calzaghe has rpetty much fought and beat the best in his deivsion for years and tried to get the ottke fight... Robin reid, brewer, michel, shiek, viet, lacy all of them were built up to be something, viet was coming in with the rep kessler has, just without the belt, sheika was the next mike tyson, ried was the real wbc champ who got screwed over in ermany, mitchel got screwed in germany, brewer screwed in germany everyone who seen the fights new it...

Just coz the us and europe built up these people he handled should not be blamed on Joe - he has fought the next big thing last year, and again fighting the number 1 ranked SMW and looking to fight the undisputed middleweight champ in future and you guys are giving him S***? pull your heads out of your arses will you

Preme I really cba getting into one of these disputes I'll post my reasons why another time

Here's why I think he's a joke the same as what I posted the other day:

Joe Calzaghe is a total joke. A world title fight of his 2Oth defence and he chooses Peter Manfredo COME ON how low can you get AND THE FUNNY THING IS MANFREDO NEVER EVEN WON THE CONTENDER SHOW . Let's look hu else he BEAT. Beat an overrated Lacy, Eubank years ago and he still goes on about it, Sakio Bika hues AVERAGE

Tocker Pudwill
Kabary Salem
Evans Ashira
Rick Thornberry
Branko Sobot
Mger Mkrtchian
Miguel Angel Jimenez Who are these people

Come on Bro please look at the above names they might have good records but have beat nobodys and not really World Champion contenders. So Joe Calzaghe he bloody well should be undefeated fighting fighters like that. All in his backyard as well. One of the reasons I really respect Ricky Hatton for is having the balls to go to the US and fight the best. 3 world champs at two different weights in his last four fights for Hatton and one unification bout and he won them all. Joe is a joke mate just accept it, yes he's got talent but it's wasted British talent. Where is Calzaghe-Ottke at least Hatton fought Kostya Tszyu the main one in his division no matter how old he was because 7 months earlier he knocked out Sharma Mitchell in 3 so he couldn't of been that much past it.

But then again your Welsh so whatever I or anyone else says there will always be a reason in your eyes why JC is great.

I'll say the same thign to you as i do to any other person, rather than name me the people he fought, and find ways to discredit them, you tell me who he should of fought and why it was his fault it didn't happen...

He signed his contract to fight hopkins, hopkins doubled an alreadyc raeer high pure to make sure that never happened...

Ottke made it perfectly clear he was never going to step in the ring with Joe again...

That leaves, lets see, Roy jones jr? one name who no one can say for certain as to why it didn't happen, Roy was offered more than 5.5mil for the fight but its to hard to find the detials for that, and if you want to base hate on the fact there was one name he didn't fight than you full of S***, coz there are alot more names that people will say hopkins and roy should of fought yet love them for it...

Oh, there is glen johnson thats just up to you or anyone else weather you want to believe joe was hurt or he ducked him i don't care...

Jones was at Lightheavyweight before Calzaghe even won the title so your telling me that the P4P number 1 fighter has to accept to drop down in weight and fight over in UK and i assume its UK because Calzaghe wouldn't go to USA and Jones has to do all this against a fighter who was not even known in USA ?? get real.

your age lets you down some times ice;

shika was being build as the SMW mike tyson, i ain't saying he should of but thats the build up he was getting

roy jones was the one who spoke about calzaghe and said HE WANTED to come down to SMW to fight him...

Calzaghe always said he would got ot he us to fight the big names, and proved that to me when he signed to fight hopkins in MSG, weather you believe or not he would of gone, or pulled out or anything else, he signed to fight there, hopkins pulled out.

Ice may only be a pup , and yes sometimes with age some know more than others , but ICEMAN is not green with his opinions.
But Preme on this subject the fact that your Welsh lets YOU down . Ice will get older and wiser but you will always be Welsh. see my point ?

[ICB]

wow you guys are F****** pathetic...

You got a ring champion inviting another ring champion over to a fight for a possible future show down and you F****** cry babys moan? seriously

Calzaghe has rpetty much fought and beat the best in his deivsion for years and tried to get the ottke fight... Robin reid, brewer, michel, shiek, viet, lacy all of them were built up to be something, viet was coming in with the rep kessler has, just without the belt, sheika was the next mike tyson, ried was the real wbc champ who got screwed over in ermany, mitchel got screwed in germany, brewer screwed in germany everyone who seen the fights new it...

Just coz the us and europe built up these people he handled should not be blamed on Joe - he has fought the next big thing last year, and again fighting the number 1 ranked SMW and looking to fight the undisputed middleweight champ in future and you guys are giving him S***? pull your heads out of your arses will you

Preme I really cba getting into one of these disputes I'll post my reasons why another time

Here's why I think he's a joke the same as what I posted the other day:

Joe Calzaghe is a total joke. A world title fight of his 2Oth defence and he chooses Peter Manfredo COME ON how low can you get AND THE FUNNY THING IS MANFREDO NEVER EVEN WON THE CONTENDER SHOW . Let's look hu else he BEAT. Beat an overrated Lacy, Eubank years ago and he still goes on about it, Sakio Bika hues AVERAGE

Tocker Pudwill
Kabary Salem
Evans Ashira
Rick Thornberry
Branko Sobot
Mger Mkrtchian
Miguel Angel Jimenez Who are these people

Come on Bro please look at the above names they might have good records but have beat nobodys and not really World Champion contenders. So Joe Calzaghe he bloody well should be undefeated fighting fighters like that. All in his backyard as well. One of the reasons I really respect Ricky Hatton for is having the balls to go to the US and fight the best. 3 world champs at two different weights in his last four fights for Hatton and one unification bout and he won them all. Joe is a joke mate just accept it, yes he's got talent but it's wasted British talent. Where is Calzaghe-Ottke at least Hatton fought Kostya Tszyu the main one in his division no matter how old he was because 7 months earlier he knocked out Sharma Mitchell in 3 so he couldn't of been that much past it.

But then again your Welsh so whatever I or anyone else says there will always be a reason in your eyes why JC is great.

I'll say the same thign to you as i do to any other person, rather than name me the people he fought, and find ways to discredit them, you tell me who he should of fought and why it was his fault it didn't happen...

He signed his contract to fight hopkins, hopkins doubled an alreadyc raeer high pure to make sure that never happened...

Ottke made it perfectly clear he was never going to step in the ring with Joe again...

That leaves, lets see, Roy jones jr? one name who no one can say for certain as to why it didn't happen, Roy was offered more than 5.5mil for the fight but its to hard to find the detials for that, and if you want to base hate on the fact there was one name he didn't fight than you full of S***, coz there are alot more names that people will say hopkins and roy should of fought yet love them for it...

Oh, there is glen johnson thats just up to you or anyone else weather you want to believe joe was hurt or he ducked him i don't care...

Jones was at Lightheavyweight before Calzaghe even won the title so your telling me that the P4P number 1 fighter has to accept to drop down in weight and fight over in UK and i assume its UK because Calzaghe wouldn't go to USA and Jones has to do all this against a fighter who was not even known in USA ?? get real.

your age lets you down some times ice;

shika was being build as the SMW mike tyson, i ain't saying he should of but thats the build up he was getting

roy jones was the one who spoke about calzaghe and said HE WANTED to come down to SMW to fight him...

Calzaghe always said he would got ot he us to fight the big names, and proved that to me when he signed to fight hopkins in MSG, weather you believe or not he would of gone, or pulled out or anything else, he signed to fight there, hopkins pulled out.

2 Years before Calzaghe fight Sheika lost to a 28-44 fighter hardly the next Mike Tyson.

[Dark Lord Al]

wow you guys are F****** pathetic...

You got a ring champion inviting another ring champion over to a fight for a possible future show down and you F****** cry babys moan? seriously

Calzaghe has rpetty much fought and beat the best in his deivsion for years and tried to get the ottke fight... Robin reid, brewer, michel, shiek, viet, lacy all of them were built up to be something, viet was coming in with the rep kessler has, just without the belt, sheika was the next mike tyson, ried was the real wbc champ who got screwed over in ermany, mitchel got screwed in germany, brewer screwed in germany everyone who seen the fights new it...

Just coz the us and europe built up these people he handled should not be blamed on Joe - he has fought the next big thing last year, and again fighting the number 1 ranked SMW and looking to fight the undisputed middleweight champ in future and you guys are giving him S***? pull your heads out of your arses will you

Preme I really cba getting into one of these disputes I'll post my reasons why another time

Here's why I think he's a joke the same as what I posted the other day:

Joe Calzaghe is a total joke. A world title fight of his 2Oth defence and he chooses Peter Manfredo COME ON how low can you get AND THE FUNNY THING IS MANFREDO NEVER EVEN WON THE CONTENDER SHOW . Let's look hu else he BEAT. Beat an overrated Lacy, Eubank years ago and he still goes on about it, Sakio Bika hues AVERAGE

Tocker Pudwill
Kabary Salem
Evans Ashira
Rick Thornberry
Branko Sobot
Mger Mkrtchian
Miguel Angel Jimenez Who are these people

Come on Bro please look at the above names they might have good records but have beat nobodys and not really World Champion contenders. So Joe Calzaghe he bloody well should be undefeated fighting fighters like that. All in his backyard as well. One of the reasons I really respect Ricky Hatton for is having the balls to go to the US and fight the best. 3 world champs at two different weights in his last four fights for Hatton and one unification bout and he won them all. Joe is a joke mate just accept it, yes he's got talent but it's wasted British talent. Where is Calzaghe-Ottke at least Hatton fought Kostya Tszyu the main one in his division no matter how old he was because 7 months earlier he knocked out Sharma Mitchell in 3 so he couldn't of been that much past it.

But then again your Welsh so whatever I or anyone else says there will always be a reason in your eyes why JC is great.

I'll say the same thign to you as i do to any other person, rather than name me the people he fought, and find ways to discredit them, you tell me who he should of fought and why it was his fault it didn't happen...

He signed his contract to fight hopkins, hopkins doubled an alreadyc raeer high pure to make sure that never happened...

Ottke made it perfectly clear he was never going to step in the ring with Joe again...

That leaves, lets see, Roy jones jr? one name who no one can say for certain as to why it didn't happen, Roy was offered more than 5.5mil for the fight but its to hard to find the detials for that, and if you want to base hate on the fact there was one name he didn't fight than you full of S***, coz there are alot more names that people will say hopkins and roy should of fought yet love them for it...

Oh, there is glen johnson thats just up to you or anyone else weather you want to believe joe was hurt or he ducked him i don't care...

Jones was at Lightheavyweight before Calzaghe even won the title so your telling me that the P4P number 1 fighter has to accept to drop down in weight and fight over in UK and i assume its UK because Calzaghe wouldn't go to USA and Jones has to do all this against a fighter who was not even known in USA ?? get real.

your age lets you down some times ice;

shika was being build as the SMW mike tyson, i ain't saying he should of but thats the build up he was getting

roy jones was the one who spoke about calzaghe and said HE WANTED to come down to SMW to fight him...

Calzaghe always said he would got ot he us to fight the big names, and proved that to me when he signed to fight hopkins in MSG, weather you believe or not he would of gone, or pulled out or anything else, he signed to fight there, hopkins pulled out.

2 Years before Calzaghe fight Sheika lost to a 28-44 fighter hardly the next Mike Tyson.

Yes ICEMAN Tony Booth one of boxings greats
Funny how people like Preme choose snipits of wot the media say and take it as a world opinion to help their argument

[Althugz]

wow you guys are F****** pathetic...

You got a ring champion inviting another ring champion over to a fight for a possible future show down and you F****** cry babys moan? seriously

Calzaghe has rpetty much fought and beat the best in his deivsion for years and tried to get the ottke fight... Robin reid, brewer, michel, shiek, viet, lacy all of them were built up to be something, viet was coming in with the rep kessler has, just without the belt, sheika was the next mike tyson, ried was the real wbc champ who got screwed over in ermany, mitchel got screwed in germany, brewer screwed in germany everyone who seen the fights new it...

Just coz the us and europe built up these people he handled should not be blamed on Joe - he has fought the next big thing last year, and again fighting the number 1 ranked SMW and looking to fight the undisputed middleweight champ in future and you guys are giving him S***? pull your heads out of your arses will you

Preme I really cba getting into one of these disputes I'll post my reasons why another time

Here's why I think he's a joke the same as what I posted the other day:

Joe Calzaghe is a total joke. A world title fight of his 2Oth defence and he chooses Peter Manfredo COME ON how low can you get AND THE FUNNY THING IS MANFREDO NEVER EVEN WON THE CONTENDER SHOW . Let's look hu else he BEAT. Beat an overrated Lacy, Eubank years ago and he still goes on about it, Sakio Bika hues AVERAGE

Tocker Pudwill
Kabary Salem
Evans Ashira
Rick Thornberry
Branko Sobot
Mger Mkrtchian
Miguel Angel Jimenez Who are these people

Come on Bro please look at the above names they might have good records but have beat nobodys and not really World Champion contenders. So Joe Calzaghe he bloody well should be undefeated fighting fighters like that. All in his backyard as well. One of the reasons I really respect Ricky Hatton for is having the balls to go to the US and fight the best. 3 world champs at two different weights in his last four fights for Hatton and one unification bout and he won them all. Joe is a joke mate just accept it, yes he's got talent but it's wasted British talent. Where is Calzaghe-Ottke at least Hatton fought Kostya Tszyu the main one in his division no matter how old he was because 7 months earlier he knocked out Sharma Mitchell in 3 so he couldn't of been that much past it.

But then again your Welsh so whatever I or anyone else says there will always be a reason in your eyes why JC is great.

I'll say the same thign to you as i do to any other person, rather than name me the people he fought, and find ways to discredit them, you tell me who he should of fought and why it was his fault it didn't happen...

He signed his contract to fight hopkins, hopkins doubled an alreadyc raeer high pure to make sure that never happened...

Ottke made it perfectly clear he was never going to step in the ring with Joe again...

That leaves, lets see, Roy jones jr? one name who no one can say for certain as to why it didn't happen, Roy was offered more than 5.5mil for the fight but its to hard to find the detials for that, and if you want to base hate on the fact there was one name he didn't fight than you full of S***, coz there are alot more names that people will say hopkins and roy should of fought yet love them for it...

Oh, there is glen johnson thats just up to you or anyone else weather you want to believe joe was hurt or he ducked him i don't care...

Jones was at Lightheavyweight before Calzaghe even won the title so your telling me that the P4P number 1 fighter has to accept to drop down in weight and fight over in UK and i assume its UK because Calzaghe wouldn't go to USA and Jones has to do all this against a fighter who was not even known in USA ?? get real.

your age lets you down some times ice;

shika was being build as the SMW mike tyson, i ain't saying he should of but thats the build up he was getting

roy jones was the one who spoke about calzaghe and said HE WANTED to come down to SMW to fight him...

Calzaghe always said he would got ot he us to fight the big names, and proved that to me when he signed to fight hopkins in MSG, weather you believe or not he would of gone, or pulled out or anything else, he signed to fight there, hopkins pulled out.

2 Years before Calzaghe fight Sheika lost to a 28-44 fighter hardly the next Mike Tyson.

Lmao
You have stats for everything ICE lol! In this case the stats definitely tell the story

[ICB]

wow you guys are F****** pathetic...

You got a ring champion inviting another ring champion over to a fight for a possible future show down and you F****** cry babys moan? seriously

Calzaghe has rpetty much fought and beat the best in his deivsion for years and tried to get the ottke fight... Robin reid, brewer, michel, shiek, viet, lacy all of them were built up to be something, viet was coming in with the rep kessler has, just without the belt, sheika was the next mike tyson, ried was the real wbc champ who got screwed over in ermany, mitchel got screwed in germany, brewer screwed in germany everyone who seen the fights new it...

Just coz the us and europe built up these people he handled should not be blamed on Joe - he has fought the next big thing last year, and again fighting the number 1 ranked SMW and looking to fight the undisputed middleweight champ in future and you guys are giving him S***? pull your heads out of your arses will you

Preme I really cba getting into one of these disputes I'll post my reasons why another time

Here's why I think he's a joke the same as what I posted the other day:

Joe Calzaghe is a total joke. A world title fight of his 2Oth defence and he chooses Peter Manfredo COME ON how low can you get AND THE FUNNY THING IS MANFREDO NEVER EVEN WON THE CONTENDER SHOW . Let's look hu else he BEAT. Beat an overrated Lacy, Eubank years ago and he still goes on about it, Sakio Bika hues AVERAGE

Tocker Pudwill
Kabary Salem
Evans Ashira
Rick Thornberry
Branko Sobot
Mger Mkrtchian
Miguel Angel Jimenez Who are these people

Come on Bro please look at the above names they might have good records but have beat nobodys and not really World Champion contenders. So Joe Calzaghe he bloody well should be undefeated fighting fighters like that. All in his backyard as well. One of the reasons I really respect Ricky Hatton for is having the balls to go to the US and fight the best. 3 world champs at two different weights in his last four fights for Hatton and one unification bout and he won them all. Joe is a joke mate just accept it, yes he's got talent but it's wasted British talent. Where is Calzaghe-Ottke at least Hatton fought Kostya Tszyu the main one in his division no matter how old he was because 7 months earlier he knocked out Sharma Mitchell in 3 so he couldn't of been that much past it.

But then again your Welsh so whatever I or anyone else says there will always be a reason in your eyes why JC is great.

I'll say the same thign to you as i do to any other person, rather than name me the people he fought, and find ways to discredit them, you tell me who he should of fought and why it was his fault it didn't happen...

He signed his contract to fight hopkins, hopkins doubled an alreadyc raeer high pure to make sure that never happened...

Ottke made it perfectly clear he was never going to step in the ring with Joe again...

That leaves, lets see, Roy jones jr? one name who no one can say for certain as to why it didn't happen, Roy was offered more than 5.5mil for the fight but its to hard to find the detials for that, and if you want to base hate on the fact there was one name he didn't fight than you full of S***, coz there are alot more names that people will say hopkins and roy should of fought yet love them for it...

Oh, there is glen johnson thats just up to you or anyone else weather you want to believe joe was hurt or he ducked him i don't care...

Jones was at Lightheavyweight before Calzaghe even won the title so your telling me that the P4P number 1 fighter has to accept to drop down in weight and fight over in UK and i assume its UK because Calzaghe wouldn't go to USA and Jones has to do all this against a fighter who was not even known in USA ?? get real.

your age lets you down some times ice;

shika was being build as the SMW mike tyson, i ain't saying he should of but thats the build up he was getting

roy jones was the one who spoke about calzaghe and said HE WANTED to come down to SMW to fight him...

Calzaghe always said he would got ot he us to fight the big names, and proved that to me when he signed to fight hopkins in MSG, weather you believe or not he would of gone, or pulled out or anything else, he signed to fight there, hopkins pulled out.

2 Years before Calzaghe fight Sheika lost to a 28-44 fighter hardly the next Mike Tyson.

Lmao
You have stats for everything ICE lol! In this case the stats definitely tell the story

Thanks mate

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My thoughts are that JOe should not be looking past Kess at all. If he gets easily beaten in this fight aint no top names who wil fight him.

[Fenster]

I don't remember Sheika being billed as the next Mike Tyson () but he was considered a dangerous opponent and was coming off beating Glen Johnson.

Calzaghe was coming off injury and two stinkers - Thornberry/Starie - and was under pressure to deliver. Which he did. Very impressively.

[JT Rock]

The problem with Calzaghe is that he is a cocky dikhead... You really think he is being genuine and humble My asss that guy is a certified underachieving prik.

Oh and by the way we dont want Joe Calzaghe to fight over here he isint worth the trouble, he is far by #1 fighter that I look forward to retireing and as he thinks he will be remembered as Superman, but he will be in for a rudeawakening when he is mentioned in the same breath as Sven Ottke.

I hope Kelly fights him next and concusses the little gobshite