Your thoughts/opinions are greatly appreciated.

[eagle]

Has anyone mentioned Sumbu Kalambay? Beat Mcallum, BArkley, Graham twice, Robbie Sims and Steve Collins.

[No Contest]

this is a neat thread. cutmemick .. anyone remember Scotty" the bulldog" Olson ? he was fun to watch.. great western forum boxing had him on back in the day always a good match when he was on the card.

hell yeah, i used to like him when I was real young, I remember thinking damn I'm almost his size I could get in there
El Gamo , if you wanna see a fight that will give you some insight on Yaqui Lopez, watch the fight between him and Saad Mohammed. Good back and forth in that one, at one point in the 7th or eigth he throws a wicked flurry of about 15-20 unanswered punches...Saad Mohammed by some miracle stayed on his feet and after the onslaught started to come back with his own big shots. Great fight I just watched it the other day.
I would like to add Juan Roldan tough as nails fighter out of Argentina.
Dwight Qawi is another that gets overlooked because of his record, but he gave everyone a tough fight, he was like a slightly smaller version of Frazier.
Sumbu Kalambay big wins over alot of the british middleweights of the time, Steve collins , Herol Graham(twice),Iran Barkley.
Mike "the bodysnatcher" McCallum, lots of big names on his resume. So many to name...

[DaxxKahn]

this is a neat thread. cutmemick .. anyone remember Scotty" the bulldog" Olson ? he was fun to watch.. great western forum boxing had him on back in the day always a good match when he was on the card.

hell yeah, i used to like him when I was real young, I remember thinking damn I'm almost his size I could get in there
El Gamo , if you wanna see a fight that will give you some insight on Yaqui Lopez, watch the fight between him and Saad Mohammed. Good back and forth in that one, at one point in the 7th or eigth he throws a wicked flurry of about 15-20 unanswered punches...Saad Mohammed by some miracle stayed on his feet and after the onslaught started to come back with his own big shots. Great fight I just watched it the other day.
I would like to add Juan Roldan tough as nails fighter out of Argentina.
Dwight Qawi is another that gets overlooked because of his record, but he gave everyone a tough fight, he was like a slightly smaller version of Frazier.
Sumbu Kalambay big wins over alot of the british middleweights of the time, Steve collins , Herol Graham(twice),Iran Barkley.
Mike "the bodysnatcher" McCallum, lots of big names on his resume. So many to name...

El Gamo and El Barto are the same guy?

[Spicoli]

this is a neat thread. cutmemick .. anyone remember Scotty" the bulldog" Olson ? he was fun to watch.. great western forum boxing had him on back in the day always a good match when he was on the card.

hell yeah, i used to like him when I was real young, I remember thinking damn I'm almost his size I could get in there
El Gamo , if you wanna see a fight that will give you some insight on Yaqui Lopez, watch the fight between him and Saad Mohammed. Good back and forth in that one, at one point in the 7th or eigth he throws a wicked flurry of about 15-20 unanswered punches...Saad Mohammed by some miracle stayed on his feet and after the onslaught started to come back with his own big shots. Great fight I just watched it the other day.
I would like to add Juan Roldan tough as nails fighter out of Argentina.
Dwight Qawi is another that gets overlooked because of his record, but he gave everyone a tough fight, he was like a slightly smaller version of Frazier.
Sumbu Kalambay big wins over alot of the british middleweights of the time, Steve collins , Herol Graham(twice),Iran Barkley.
Mike "the bodysnatcher" McCallum, lots of big names on his resume. So many to name...

Nice call on Juan Roldon No Contest,Tuff as the came....With respect about Lopez,Check Thread page #1.I raived all over Lopez with almost the same point .......... ,the best era of Lt.Hvys IMO.

[BoxingGorilla]

Dick Tiger


I read an article once about Dick Tiger avenging a loss. It was called Tiger's Revenge and was written by Claude Baughs.

[THE THIRD MAN]

This is a really good topic, i think Esteben de Jesus was unlucky he was around when Duran was in his prime as a Lightweight in the 70's.
He still gave Duran his first loss and fought him two more times knocking him down twice in their encounters. A great fighter never given the recognition he deserves.

[Ring Rat]

who dat

[No Contest]

this is a neat thread. cutmemick .. anyone remember Scotty" the bulldog" Olson ? he was fun to watch.. great western forum boxing had him on back in the day always a good match when he was on the card.

hell yeah, i used to like him when I was real young, I remember thinking damn I'm almost his size I could get in there
El Gamo , if you wanna see a fight that will give you some insight on Yaqui Lopez, watch the fight between him and Saad Mohammed. Good back and forth in that one, at one point in the 7th or eigth he throws a wicked flurry of about 15-20 unanswered punches...Saad Mohammed by some miracle stayed on his feet and after the onslaught started to come back with his own big shots. Great fight I just watched it the other day.
I would like to add Juan Roldan tough as nails fighter out of Argentina.
Dwight Qawi is another that gets overlooked because of his record, but he gave everyone a tough fight, he was like a slightly smaller version of Frazier.
Sumbu Kalambay big wins over alot of the british middleweights of the time, Steve collins , Herol Graham(twice),Iran Barkley.
Mike "the bodysnatcher" McCallum, lots of big names on his resume. So many to name...

Nice call on Juan Roldon No Contest,Tuff as the came....With respect about Lopez,Check Thread page #1.I raived all over Lopez with almost the same point .......... ,the best era of Lt.Hvys IMO.

thats bullshit, everyone keeps posting crap minutes before me and stealing my thunder....

[Ring Rat]

jesus salud was always exciting fought at bantamweight / super bantamweight if i remember correct

[No Contest]

Frankie Randell, he won that fight with Chavez in really IMO a one sided beatdown. Chavez looked real desperate late on in that one he was trying all kinds of dirty stuff. Everyone was cheering Chavez on like they were gonna win him the fight at the end, but the judges werent swayed...at least 2 of them.

[Ring Rat]

charles " the hatchet " brewer always entertained , i still remember that fight he had with Antwun Echols 6 years back, might have been the most entertaining match i ever seen.. both men down . haglar / hearns type excitiment . great match..

[Spicoli]

Frankie Randell, he won that fight with Chavez in really IMO a one sided beatdown. Chavez looked real desperate late on in that one he was trying all kinds of dirty stuff. Everyone was cheering Chavez on like they were gonna win him the fight at the end, but the judges werent swayed...at least 2 of them.

Ohhh Good point.The "surgeon" owned Chavez In 1st fight.
Just my Opinion of course.
Randall was a roller coaster of fame and misfortune.His demons were many but IMO...He had Chavez's #.That borderline no-mas and hold up in 2nd fight was pure Crap.

[No Contest]

this is a neat thread. cutmemick .. anyone remember Scotty" the bulldog" Olson ? he was fun to watch.. great western forum boxing had him on back in the day always a good match when he was on the card.

hell yeah, i used to like him when I was real young, I remember thinking damn I'm almost his size I could get in there
El Gamo , if you wanna see a fight that will give you some insight on Yaqui Lopez, watch the fight between him and Saad Mohammed. Good back and forth in that one, at one point in the 7th or eigth he throws a wicked flurry of about 15-20 unanswered punches...Saad Mohammed by some miracle stayed on his feet and after the onslaught started to come back with his own big shots. Great fight I just watched it the other day.
I would like to add Juan Roldan tough as nails fighter out of Argentina.
Dwight Qawi is another that gets overlooked because of his record, but he gave everyone a tough fight, he was like a slightly smaller version of Frazier.
Sumbu Kalambay big wins over alot of the british middleweights of the time, Steve collins , Herol Graham(twice),Iran Barkley.
Mike "the bodysnatcher" McCallum, lots of big names on his resume. So many to name...

El Gamo and El Barto are the same guy?

Its called multi-tasking getting 2 replies in one post....or are you easily confused?

[No Contest]

Micheal Nunn needs a little mention, seems like I never hear anyone talking about him. He did lose in his biggest fights but he had alot of quality wins. The guy fought pro for almost 20 years thats pretty crazy. Some guys he beat:Sumbu Kalambay ko1, he knocked out Roldan, that guy had a granite chin. Marlon Sterling , Iran Barkley, Donald Curry ko10, Merqui Sosa, John Scully, retired 58-4 37ko's. Not too shabby.

[CutMeMick]

That's an AWESOME list Mick and you know me,a student of our game,so te ones highlighted,could you or anyone else give me some more info on them please as I've heard of them but never seen them in action. Thanks!

Thanks Gamo.
Shit! where to start.... OK... I hope you have time to read.

Johnny Owen

'The Matchstick Man' Owen.
I've never seen a full Owen fight I've only seen highlights and short clips of his fights. (I have 1 of his fights but have never seen it I'll explain why)
In 1980 Owen moved through the rankings of the WBC and got a shot at Lupe Pintor and his WBC Bantamweight title. They met out here in Los Angeles at the Olympic Auditorium where the heavyly Mexican popoluated city filled up the seats. Owen looked nothing like a boxer if you run a search on him and you block out the gloves and trunks I sware you'll tell yourself 'this is not someone who fights for a living' I mean Owen was skinny, hardly any muscle and he had big ears but he had an even bigger heart. What I'm gonna describe next is the fight and I have the fight but have never seen it so what I'll be typing comes from short clips of the fight and or articles and documentary.
Owen was booed all the way to the ring, while Lupe was cheered. Owen quickly shut some mouths up pretty damn fast when he began to box cause this big eared skinny guy was actually wining rounds and making Lupe look bad. When they got to the mid-late rounds Lupe had already warmed up and was landing more comfortably. He began to win rounds more convincingly and began to land harder punches. I believe in the 11th round Lupe lands a crushing blow that cut's open Owen lip and blood quickly begins to flow. When the round was over Owen somewhat hurt walks to his corner for the rest period. Owens father who was his corner quickly began to work on the cut and at some point the question of 'Stoping this fight?' came up Owen said he was OK and that he wanted to continue. The bell sounds and he comes out for the 12 rd. in the 12 Lupe drops Owen with a right hook for an 8 count Owen looked beat by now the start the action and Owen comes right in to fight Lupe hooks him several times with the left and then what happened has been described by many as something really hard to see. Lupe throws a devastating right hand that drops Owen to the canvas viciously. I've read several people talk about the punch and like me many people say they just can't see it. It's too hard to watch. Owen remained on the canvas for several minutes and had to be taken out in a stretcher. He underwent surgery to remove a blood clot. Sadly Owen died about 2 months later. May he R.I.P.
I've seen a documentary on the aftermath of this match years later Owen father & Pintor met and it was all recorded. Also a statue was revealed in Owens hometown. Guess who unvailed the statue? None other then Lupe himself by wishes of Owens father. What a great guy Lupe is and Owens father to be able to meet and talk to Lupe both great guys and as LG mentioned (I think his post was deleted in the server change) the documentary really brings a tear or two to your eyes.

Alvaro 'Yaqui' Lopez

I had the opp. to meet 'Yaqui' at the hall of fame.
Well despite never wining a title this guy fought the best opp. available to him ST Gordon, Conteh, Saad, De Leon, Spinks, Galindez. You name it all the best LH of his time. Yes he fell short but he gave some of the most entertaining fights. Loads of heart and I know you have Lopez vs. Muhammad FOTY 1980 check your list of fights. Yaqui Lopez or Alvaro Lopez it was FOTY 1980. I know you have it if you don't you know what to do.

Fritzie Zivic

Fritzie happens to be the fighter whos become champion and holds the most ever loses by a champion with 65 & only 4 by KO. His final record 157-65-10 with 81 KO's. You wanna talk about a fighter earning a living well heres a prime example. He fought 3, 4 times a month sometimes wining and loosing fights never worried about the loses just moved forward knowing he could always comeback and hopefully win big the next time around. He actually beat Burley early in Burleys career by SD. After years as a pro his big break came when he fought Henry Armstrong and won the Welterweight title. He was a tough and always gave it his all.

Luisito Espinoza
Sixto Escobar
Efren Torres

Luisito was a philipino fighter in the 80s/90's and 00s. His big break came when he beat Khaokor (Khaosai twin bro.) he hooked his way into history by upsetting Kahokor with a hook. He fought 'La Cobrita' Gonzalez another less mentioned fighter but Luisito lost by TKO. He then made a comeback in 1995 when he beat 'Jibaro' Perez, Perez had been Super Bantam champ but had been off for about a year inspite that the win was a good one and he began a streak he then beat 'Matecas' Medina for the WBC Feather title, he avenged his TKO loss to 'La Cobrita' by TKOing him back. He made 7 title defenses he then lost to fighters like Espadas Jr., Augie Sanchez & Zahir Raheem.


I don't know a whole lot on Sixto but I do know that he was Puerto Ricos 1st World Champion and was pretty solid when he beat the then man to be Salica.

'Alcran' Torres was rugged mutha clucker!!! hard to the bone he took on big names from early on in his career. He had a superb trilogy with Chionoi when he captured a world title.