Hopkins comment wasn't racist, get a life folks.

[Gandalf]

Hopkins likes to talk and a lot of it is nonsense to hype potential fights and make more coin.

Hopkins is clearly not racist but did make a comment that can be interpreted in certain ways.

Calzaghe will leave him quitting on his stool after 9. I like Hopkins but Calzaghe is too good and way more fresher.

Hopkins would sooner get himself DQ'd than quit on his stool.

If he feels he's losing and can't handle the pace just look for headbutts and maulings from BHop as he tries to get himself thrown out.

I don't think Calzaghe would stop him though. He hasn't scored a legitimate knockout since my eldest nephew was born and he's 5!

Yeah, I cannot see Calzaghe actually stopping Hopkins via knock out. Very unlikely. I just cannot envision Hopkins dealing with the workrate Joe brings though. Hopkins is almost older than time now.

[bzkfn]

Hopkins likes to talk and a lot of it is nonsense to hype potential fights and make more coin.

Hopkins is clearly not racist but did make a comment that can be interpreted in certain ways.

Calzaghe will leave him quitting on his stool after 9. I like Hopkins but Calzaghe is too good and way more fresher.

Hopkins would sooner get himself DQ'd than quit on his stool.

If he feels he's losing and can't handle the pace just look for headbutts and maulings from BHop as he tries to get himself thrown out.

I don't think Calzaghe would stop him though. He hasn't scored a legitimate knockout since my eldest nephew was born and he's 5!

Yeah, I cannot see Calzaghe actually stopping Hopkins via knock out. Very unlikely. I just cannot envision Hopkins dealing with the workrate Joe brings though. Hopkins is almost older than time now.

I disagree. Time was 45 years old in September.

[Kev]

Hopkins likes to talk and a lot of it is nonsense to hype potential fights and make more coin.

Hopkins is clearly not racist but did make a comment that can be interpreted in certain ways.

Calzaghe will leave him quitting on his stool after 9. I like Hopkins but Calzaghe is too good and way more fresher.

Hopkins would sooner get himself DQ'd than quit on his stool.

If he feels he's losing and can't handle the pace just look for headbutts and maulings from BHop as he tries to get himself thrown out.

I don't think Calzaghe would stop him though. He hasn't scored a legitimate knockout since my eldest nephew was born and he's 5!

Yeah, I cannot see Calzaghe actually stopping Hopkins via knock out. Very unlikely. I just cannot envision Hopkins dealing with the workrate Joe brings though. Hopkins is almost older than time now.

I disagree. Time was 45 years old in September.

lol

[El Kabong]

So by your logic criticising your governemtn is tantamount to mutiny or an attempted coup, or saying you hate your boss is proof of intent to cause physical or criminal damage.

What did he do that was racist?

If you can't tell the difference between a trash talk comment designed to rile someone up to fight you and to get the fans interested and a genuine incitement to racial hatred then you're not the well educated worldly redneck I thought you were

All I am saying is there needs to be a fair field, if a white guy talked shit about Bernard then would they be called on it?

I think racism is more actions than words but it's just my opinion, I think words can spark actions and it's hard to know where to draw the line but Free Speech stops when people have their rights taken away or are threatened physically or are hurt physically.

I just think that white people are under a lot more scrutiny than any other race and I think that is prejudiced

[Trainer Monkey]

So by your logic criticising your governemtn is tantamount to mutiny or an attempted coup, or saying you hate your boss is proof of intent to cause physical or criminal damage.

What did he do that was racist?

If you can't tell the difference between a trash talk comment designed to rile someone up to fight you and to get the fans interested and a genuine incitement to racial hatred then you're not the well educated worldly redneck I thought you were

All I am saying is there needs to be a fair field, if a white guy talked S*** about Bernard then would they be called on it?

I think racism is more actions than words but it's just my opinion, I think words can spark actions and it's hard to know where to draw the line but Free Speech stops when people have their rights taken away or are threatened physically or are hurt physically.

I just think that white people are under a lot more scrutiny than any other race and I think that is prejudiced

So Reagan was roughly thrown out of office for his antics during Cooney/Holmes right?
I mean the President Of The Entire United States should be held to a signifigantly higher standard then a boxer right? A convicted felon no less,right?

[donnydarkoIRL]

Bilbo:It's not the same though Donny. White's as a race DID openly feel superior to blacks, we enslaved them, we thought them subhuman, like beasts of burden and cattle. That's what racism is.
Bilbo thats in the past. WE never enslaved anybody`, that was hundreds of years ago. All White people should leave your highlighted feelings and beliefs in the past as they are understandably deemed wrong in modern society. However, in turn coloured people should accept that behaviour was a past occurance and not hold it against modern white people who on the most part believe in equality and justice.


Blacks feeling digruntled against whites for hundreds of years of past treatment isn't racism it's just natural behaviour.
The Irish feel the same way about the British?
Is that right? I don't think so. The British never oppresed me, so I bear no grudge against them.

Hopkins is from the streets and still speaks like he's from the streets. But at the end of the day he's a boxer not a politician.
He's a boxer that has more infleunce, respect and exposure than most politicians. He knows this and should realise that when put in a position of power he must present himself carefully and not abuse his infleunce.

As far as I'm concerned he can say what the hell he likes. If Calzaghe were to say the same thing in reverse it would take on a whole different meaning considering the weight of history.
Again, history is in the past! I don't think Joe Calzaghe every oppressed any coloured people. Yet if he said something similar I would expect him to be shunned as it's such a loaded Topic. Why is it so loaded?...because both coloured and white people realise it is a black mark on our history as a species and think it should be forgotten.

White's have never been racially subjecated by blacks its the other way around.
And 90% modern coloured people have not been racially subjected.
If Hopkins had been raised in the 50's/60's perhaps I could understand. If he had just been thrown out of a restaraunt then perhaps I could forgive his anger. But this is 2007 and a man of such wealth, fame and power has no need or reason to dislike white people other than ignorance and a lack of will to be at peace.

If a convicted child sex offender repeatedely hugs other people's children it's viewed with suspician, wheras if a little kid hugs another child or an adult it's something completely different.
I understand your point but once again....Do you think Hopkins ever was discriminated to a large extent first hand? Or is he living in the past, living of feelings which arose from his ancestors being discriminated.

Anyway all I can say is that Hopkins comment worked. We are all talking about it, which at the end of the day is all he wanted.

[Trainer Monkey]

Bilbo:It's not the same though Donny. White's as a race DID openly feel superior to blacks, we enslaved them, we thought them subhuman, like beasts of burden and cattle. That's what racism is.
Bilbo thats in the past. WE never enslaved anybody`, that was hundreds of years ago. All White people should leave your highlighted feelings and beliefs in the past as they are understandably deemed wrong in modern society. However, in turn coloured people should accept that behaviour was a past occurance and not hold it against modern white people who on the most part believe in equality and justice.


Blacks feeling digruntled against whites for hundreds of years of past treatment isn't racism it's just natural behaviour.
The Irish feel the same way about the British?
Is that right? I don't think so. The British never oppresed me, so I bear no grudge against them.

Hopkins is from the streets and still speaks like he's from the streets. But at the end of the day he's a boxer not a politician.
He's a boxer that has more infleunce, respect and exposure than most politicians. He knows this and should realise that when put in a position of power he must present himself carefully and not abuse his infleunce.

As far as I'm concerned he can say what the hell he likes. If Calzaghe were to say the same thing in reverse it would take on a whole different meaning considering the weight of history.
Again, history is in the past! I don't think Joe Calzaghe every oppressed any coloured people. Yet if he said something similar I would expect him to be shunned as it's such a loaded Topic. Why is it so loaded?...because both coloured and white people realise it is a black mark on our history as a species and think it should be forgotten.

White's have never been racially subjecated by blacks its the other way around.
And 90% modern coloured people have not been racially subjected.
If Hopkins had been raised in the 50's/60's perhaps I could understand. If he had just been thrown out of a restaraunt then perhaps I could forgive his anger. But this is 2007 and a man of such wealth, fame and power has no need or reason to dislike white people other than ignorance and a lack of will to be at peace.

If a convicted child sex offender repeatedely hugs other people's children it's viewed with suspician, wheras if a little kid hugs another child or an adult it's something completely different.
I understand your point but once again....Do you think Hopkins ever was discriminated to a large extent first hand? Or is he living in the past, living of feelings which arose from his ancestors being discriminated.

Anyway all I can say is that Hopkins comment worked. We are all talking about it, which at the end of the day is all he wanted.

Youve obviously never been to Philly
Rizzo's boys still run that town,and their all Irish or Italian,and they can do as they please even now

[donnydarkoIRL]

Philly is Philly.
It's only a small percentage of the world's population

[Howlin Mad Missy]

hopkins did not say anything racist

fair enough but we all know if Calzaghe had said no black boy is going to beat me the press would drag him over the coals for it, regardless of whether it was meant as a racist comment or not. Double standards.

"Bilbo:It's not the same though Donny. White's as a race DID openly feel superior to blacks, we
enslaved them, we thought them subhuman, like beasts of burden and cattle. That's what racism is.
Bilbo thats in the past. WE never enslaved anybody`, that was hundreds of years ago. All White people should leave your highlighted feelings and beliefs in the past as they are understandably deemed wrong in modern society. However, in turn coloured people should accept that behaviour was a past occurance and not hold it against modern white people who on the most part believe in equality and justice."

If anything what is going on in parts of africa/india/asia, they're making slaves of each other still (as they did before we got there).

[Trainer Monkey]

Philly is Philly.
It's only a small percentage of the world's population

Not if youve lived there your whole life

[donnydarkoIRL]

Philly is Philly.
It's only a small percentage of the world's population

Not if youve lived there your whole life

I've lived in Galway my whole life. Yet i know that we're only contributors to the greater population.

[Trainer Monkey]

Philly is Philly.
It's only a small percentage of the world's population

Not if youve lived there your whole life

I've lived in Galway my whole life. Yet i know that we're only contributors to the greater population.

Philly isnt Galway
Philly might safely be described as the most segragated city in the Northern US
A black mayor burned down two whole city blocks there to get out some black sepratists to prove he was a "good boy"

[donnydarkoIRL]

Philly is Philly.
It's only a small percentage of the world's population

Not if youve lived there your whole life

I've lived in Galway my whole life. Yet i know that we're only contributors to the greater population.

Philly isnt Galway
Philly might safely be described as the most segragated city in the Northern US
A black mayor burned down two whole city blocks there to get out some black sepratists to prove he was a "good boy"

Thats great, but Philly isn't the world capital either. What goes on in your home town is not the most importamt thing that happens in the world.
Nor are the attitudes of the people of that area reflective of the world as a whole.

[Trainer Monkey]

Philly is Philly.
It's only a small percentage of the world's population

Not if youve lived there your whole life

I've lived in Galway my whole life. Yet i know that we're only contributors to the greater population.

Philly isnt Galway
Philly might safely be described as the most segragated city in the Northern US
A black mayor burned down two whole city blocks there to get out some black sepratists to prove he was a "good boy"

Thats great, but Philly isn't the world capital either. What goes on in your home town is not the most importamt thing that happens in the world.
Nor are the attitudes of the people of that area reflective of the world as a whole.

Donny,let me hand you a clue here
I had no idea how racist Philly was until I left it
What you know,is what you know
And on top of it,why can Chris Rock say it,or Richard Pryor say it,and its funny
Bernard uses the exact same words talking about Saint Joe
It isnt funny anymore

[donnydarkoIRL]

Philly is Philly.
It's only a small percentage of the world's population

Not if youve lived there your whole life

I've lived in Galway my whole life. Yet i know that we're only contributors to the greater population.

Philly isnt Galway
Philly might safely be described as the most segragated city in the Northern US
A black mayor burned down two whole city blocks there to get out some black sepratists to prove he was a "good boy"

Thats great, but Philly isn't the world capital either. What goes on in your home town is not the most importamt thing that happens in the world.
Nor are the attitudes of the people of that area reflective of the world as a whole.

Donny,let me hand you a clue here
I had no idea how racist Philly was until I left it
What you know,is what you know
And on top of it,why can Chris Rock say it,or Richard Pryor say it,and its funny
Bernard uses the exact same words talking about Saint Joe
It isnt funny anymore

I have a clue thanks.

And once more, I have no interest in Philly. I'm talking about the world as an entirity.