Prime Bruno - Prime Bowe

[Dark Lord Al]

Riddick Bowe would never have fought Bruno because Bowe never fought anyone who could punch.

Hide and Gonzalez are the only two and Gonzalez wasn't that big a puncher.

A fighter that spent his whole career not facing punchers does so for a reason - his management no he can't take a punch.

Spot on Rob , Holyfield dropped him , Golota dropped him on many accasions , thats about all the punchers he met , he had a weak chin , not one of the best of all time as some think lol

[ICB]

Riddick Bowe would never have fought Bruno because Bowe never fought anyone who could punch.

Hide and Gonzalez are the only two and Gonzalez wasn't that big a puncher.

A fighter that spent his whole career not facing punchers does so for a reason - his management no he can't take a punch.

Spot on Rob , Holyfield dropped him , Golota dropped him on many accasions , thats about all the punchers he met , he had a weak chin , not one of the best of all time as some think lol

Actually Bowe had bad damage to his brain after 3rd Holyfield fight i believe, and Holyfield dropped him with monster left hook when he wern't expecting it because he thought and so did everyone else that Holyfield was finished and he looked liked he was spent force, plus the worst punches are the ones you don't see coming.

Golota dropped Bowe twice in there 2nd fight, and Bowe took one of the worst beatings i've ever seen a Heavyweight take yet Golota could not stop him so you can't deny that Bowe had great chin and great heart.

And to say he has a weak chin is way off the mark, the punch that Golota knocked Bowe down with was a temple shot not a shot to the chin.

[Dark Lord Al]

Riddick Bowe would never have fought Bruno because Bowe never fought anyone who could punch.

Hide and Gonzalez are the only two and Gonzalez wasn't that big a puncher.

A fighter that spent his whole career not facing punchers does so for a reason - his management no he can't take a punch.

Spot on Rob , Holyfield dropped him , Golota dropped him on many accasions , thats about all the punchers he met , he had a weak chin , not one of the best of all time as some think lol

Actually Bowe had bad damage to his brain after 3rd Holyfield fight i believe, and Holyfield dropped him with monster left hook when he wern't expecting it because he thought and so did everyone else that Holyfield was finished and he looked liked he was spent force, plus the worst punches are the ones you don't see coming.

Golota dropped Bowe twice in there 2nd fight, and Bowe took one of the worst beatings i've ever seen a Heavyweight take yet Golota could not stop him so you can't deny that Bowe had great chin and great heart.

And to say he has a weak chin is way off the mark, the punch that Golota knocked Bowe down with was a temple shot not a shot to the chin.

so we disagree i guess its all about opinions , but Rob is right Bowe avoided big hitters

[ICB]

Riddick Bowe would never have fought Bruno because Bowe never fought anyone who could punch.

Hide and Gonzalez are the only two and Gonzalez wasn't that big a puncher.

A fighter that spent his whole career not facing punchers does so for a reason - his management no he can't take a punch.

Spot on Rob , Holyfield dropped him , Golota dropped him on many accasions , thats about all the punchers he met , he had a weak chin , not one of the best of all time as some think lol

Actually Bowe had bad damage to his brain after 3rd Holyfield fight i believe, and Holyfield dropped him with monster left hook when he wern't expecting it because he thought and so did everyone else that Holyfield was finished and he looked liked he was spent force, plus the worst punches are the ones you don't see coming.

Golota dropped Bowe twice in there 2nd fight, and Bowe took one of the worst beatings i've ever seen a Heavyweight take yet Golota could not stop him so you can't deny that Bowe had great chin and great heart.

And to say he has a weak chin is way off the mark, the punch that Golota knocked Bowe down with was a temple shot not a shot to the chin.

so we disagree i guess its all about opinions , but Rob is right Bowe avoided big hitters

Like who ?? i know Bowe did avoid Lewis but they were rescheduled to fight if Lewis, beat McCall but he didn't and the rest is history.

[SweetPea]

Riddick Bowe would never have fought Bruno because Bowe never fought anyone who could punch.

Hide and Gonzalez are the only two and Gonzalez wasn't that big a puncher.

A fighter that spent his whole career not facing punchers does so for a reason - his management no he can't take a punch.

Spot on Rob , Holyfield dropped him , Golota dropped him on many accasions , thats about all the punchers he met , he had a weak chin , not one of the best of all time as some think lol

Actually Bowe had bad damage to his brain after 3rd Holyfield fight i believe, and Holyfield dropped him with monster left hook when he wern't expecting it because he thought and so did everyone else that Holyfield was finished and he looked liked he was spent force, plus the worst punches are the ones you don't see coming.

Golota dropped Bowe twice in there 2nd fight, and Bowe took one of the worst beatings i've ever seen a Heavyweight take yet Golota could not stop him so you can't deny that Bowe had great chin and great heart.

And to say he has a weak chin is way off the mark, the punch that Golota knocked Bowe down with was a temple shot not a shot to the chin.

To the people who are saying Bowe avoided big punchers and had a weak chin, your argument might be more believable if you could actually provide some names.

I'm with ICB (Ricardo) on this one. Golota landed some of the biggest punches against Bowe that you'll ever see, and Bowe refused to be stopped.

And please don't name Tyson. There was a slight problem with a Bowe-Tyson matchup. When Bowe was champ, Tyson wasn't exactly available to fight, since you know... he was in prison.

[WelshDevilRob]

Riddick Bowe would never have fought Bruno because Bowe never fought anyone who could punch.

Hide and Gonzalez are the only two and Gonzalez wasn't that big a puncher.

A fighter that spent his whole career not facing punchers does so for a reason - his management no he can't take a punch.

Spot on Rob , Holyfield dropped him , Golota dropped him on many accasions , thats about all the punchers he met , he had a weak chin , not one of the best of all time as some think lol

Actually Bowe had bad damage to his brain after 3rd Holyfield fight i believe, and Holyfield dropped him with monster left hook when he wern't expecting it because he thought and so did everyone else that Holyfield was finished and he looked liked he was spent force, plus the worst punches are the ones you don't see coming.

Golota dropped Bowe twice in there 2nd fight, and Bowe took one of the worst beatings i've ever seen a Heavyweight take yet Golota could not stop him so you can't deny that Bowe had great chin and great heart.

And to say he has a weak chin is way off the mark, the punch that Golota knocked Bowe down with was a temple shot not a shot to the chin.

To the people who are saying Bowe avoided big punchers and had a weak chin, your argument might be more believable if you could actually provide some names.

I'm with ICB (Ricardo) on this one. Golota landed some of the biggest punches against Bowe that you'll ever see, and Bowe refused to be stopped.

And please don't name Tyson. There was a slight problem with a Bowe-Tyson matchup. When Bowe was champ, Tyson wasn't exactly available to fight, since you know... he was in prison.

How about you name all these punchers that Bowe faced? He was beating up on faded fighters like Ferguson and Dokes (both somehow in World title defences). He should have been disqualified against Buster Mathis Jnr another fighter who had no punch.
He beat Larry Donald who fought scared after Bowe had punched him in the pre fight press conference and again wasn't a puncher.
He beat Bert Cooper who had a dig but was a fringe contender at Heavyweight and who was a Cruiserweight.
He got schooled by an old Tony Tubbs another fighter that was past his best and didn't have any power.

Why didn't Bowe face Morrison, Mercer, Tucker, McCall, Ruddock, Sanders it's not a coincidence that he never fought these punchers rather it is good handling by his manager Rock Newman as he knew Bowe didn't have the greatest chin in the World so constantly fed him lighter, smaller fighters with a lack of real power or faded.

And Golota who could dig had Bowe in all kinds of trouble while in his next fight Golota got dealt with easily by Lennox Lewis.

[ICB]

Riddick Bowe would never have fought Bruno because Bowe never fought anyone who could punch.

Hide and Gonzalez are the only two and Gonzalez wasn't that big a puncher.

A fighter that spent his whole career not facing punchers does so for a reason - his management no he can't take a punch.

Spot on Rob , Holyfield dropped him , Golota dropped him on many accasions , thats about all the punchers he met , he had a weak chin , not one of the best of all time as some think lol

Actually Bowe had bad damage to his brain after 3rd Holyfield fight i believe, and Holyfield dropped him with monster left hook when he wern't expecting it because he thought and so did everyone else that Holyfield was finished and he looked liked he was spent force, plus the worst punches are the ones you don't see coming.

Golota dropped Bowe twice in there 2nd fight, and Bowe took one of the worst beatings i've ever seen a Heavyweight take yet Golota could not stop him so you can't deny that Bowe had great chin and great heart.

And to say he has a weak chin is way off the mark, the punch that Golota knocked Bowe down with was a temple shot not a shot to the chin.

To the people who are saying Bowe avoided big punchers and had a weak chin, your argument might be more believable if you could actually provide some names.

I'm with ICB (Ricardo) on this one. Golota landed some of the biggest punches against Bowe that you'll ever see, and Bowe refused to be stopped.

And please don't name Tyson. There was a slight problem with a Bowe-Tyson matchup. When Bowe was champ, Tyson wasn't exactly available to fight, since you know... he was in prison.

How about you name all these punchers that Bowe faced? He was beating up on faded fighters like Ferguson and Dokes (both somehow in World title defences). He should have been disqualified against Buster Mathis Jnr another fighter who had no punch.
He beat Larry Donald who fought scared after Bowe had punched him in the pre fight press conference and again wasn't a puncher.
He beat Bert Cooper who had a dig but was a fringe contender at Heavyweight and who was a Cruiserweight.
He got schooled by an old Tony Tubbs another fighter that was past his best and didn't have any power.

Why didn't Bowe face Morrison, Mercer, Tucker, McCall, Ruddock, Sanders it's not a coincidence that he never fought these punchers rather it is good handling by his manager Rock Newman as he knew Bowe didn't have the greatest chin in the World so constantly fed him lighter, smaller fighters with a lack of real power or faded.

And Golota who could dig had Bowe in all kinds of trouble while in his next fight Golota got dealt with easily by Lennox Lewis.

I'll think your find Bowe was scheduled to fight Ray Mercer, but Mercer got upset by Jesse Ferguson read up about it.

Sanders was nowhere even close to top Heavyweights in 1996, or in early 90s why would Bowe have fought him ??

Mercer had been promised a title shot against Riddick Bowe and a guaranteed 1.5 million dollar payday if he beat Ferguson. However, things didnt go his way and Mercer was completely outboxed in this fight.

[WelshDevilRob]

Riddick Bowe would never have fought Bruno because Bowe never fought anyone who could punch.

Hide and Gonzalez are the only two and Gonzalez wasn't that big a puncher.

A fighter that spent his whole career not facing punchers does so for a reason - his management no he can't take a punch.

Spot on Rob , Holyfield dropped him , Golota dropped him on many accasions , thats about all the punchers he met , he had a weak chin , not one of the best of all time as some think lol

Actually Bowe had bad damage to his brain after 3rd Holyfield fight i believe, and Holyfield dropped him with monster left hook when he wern't expecting it because he thought and so did everyone else that Holyfield was finished and he looked liked he was spent force, plus the worst punches are the ones you don't see coming.

Golota dropped Bowe twice in there 2nd fight, and Bowe took one of the worst beatings i've ever seen a Heavyweight take yet Golota could not stop him so you can't deny that Bowe had great chin and great heart.

And to say he has a weak chin is way off the mark, the punch that Golota knocked Bowe down with was a temple shot not a shot to the chin.

To the people who are saying Bowe avoided big punchers and had a weak chin, your argument might be more believable if you could actually provide some names.

I'm with ICB (Ricardo) on this one. Golota landed some of the biggest punches against Bowe that you'll ever see, and Bowe refused to be stopped.

And please don't name Tyson. There was a slight problem with a Bowe-Tyson matchup. When Bowe was champ, Tyson wasn't exactly available to fight, since you know... he was in prison.

How about you name all these punchers that Bowe faced? He was beating up on faded fighters like Ferguson and Dokes (both somehow in World title defences). He should have been disqualified against Buster Mathis Jnr another fighter who had no punch.
He beat Larry Donald who fought scared after Bowe had punched him in the pre fight press conference and again wasn't a puncher.
He beat Bert Cooper who had a dig but was a fringe contender at Heavyweight and who was a Cruiserweight.
He got schooled by an old Tony Tubbs another fighter that was past his best and didn't have any power.

Why didn't Bowe face Morrison, Mercer, Tucker, McCall, Ruddock, Sanders it's not a coincidence that he never fought these punchers rather it is good handling by his manager Rock Newman as he knew Bowe didn't have the greatest chin in the World so constantly fed him lighter, smaller fighters with a lack of real power or faded.

And Golota who could dig had Bowe in all kinds of trouble while in his next fight Golota got dealt with easily by Lennox Lewis.

I'll think your find Bowe was scheduled to fight Ray Mercer, but Mercer got upset by Jesse Ferguson read up about it.

Sanders was nowhere even close to top Heavyweights in 1996, or in early 90s why would Bowe have fought him ??

Mercer had been promised a title shot against Riddick Bowe and a guaranteed 1.5 million dollar payday if he beat Ferguson. However, things didnt go his way and Mercer was completely outboxed in this fight.

I'm well aware of the Mercer situation but that wasn't the only time he could have fought Mercer. Sanders was around for years. Even Bruno was once scheduled to fight Mercer (Highnoon in Hong Kong)
Apart from Sanders - good old Lennox found time to fight punchers but somehow Bowe didn't. You can defend Bowe all you like but his Pro record shows the facts.

I'm not even suggesting that Bowe wouldn't have beaten some of the fighters I've mentioned but I find it strange that he never actually got into the ring with any and the names I have mentioned are just some of those he never fought.

[porkypara]

Bowe had one of the best HW jabs ever.Good power and hand speed.worked well on the inside as well as the outside.No self disaplain out of the ring.



Bruno had great power and and was 100% boxing in and out of the ring.That is all you can say for Frank.


Bruno might land some good shots over the fisrt 4 or 5 round but Bowe would countrol the fight with his faster and better jab.As Bruno tires in the 2nd half of the fight he would go into melt down and get stopped while still on his feet.

[CutMeMick]

Remember what I said the other say that hes overrated?

Can't see how anyone could claim that Riddick Bowe could beat the 60's Ali - that is just a foolish statement.


No it isn't Ali struggled with much lesser fighters than Bowe, a 100 percent in shape Bowe would give Ali all he could handle.

I mean really Bowe "in shape" did anyone actually ever see him in shape?
ICB you've gotta be kidding man.... I mean really Riddick Bowe beating Ali (60's).....
I sware I try to imagine it but even that I can't do.
I mean really Bowe beating Ali....

[ICB]

Remember what I said the other say that hes overrated?

Can't see how anyone could claim that Riddick Bowe could beat the 60's Ali - that is just a foolish statement.


No it isn't Ali struggled with much lesser fighters than Bowe, a 100 percent in shape Bowe would give Ali all he could handle.

I mean really Bowe "in shape" did anyone actually ever see him in shape?
ICB you've gotta be kidding man.... I mean really Riddick Bowe beating Ali (60's).....
I sware I try to imagine it but even that I can't do.
I mean really Bowe beating Ali....

a 100 percent in shape Bowe would give Ali all he could handle.

Tell me where in this comment i said Bowe would beat Ali ?? i said he would give him all he could handle which he could, is that so hard to believe a very talented Heavyweight like Bowe could actually give Ali a tough fight ??

Ali struggled with a lot of lesser fighters than Bowe in the 60s, like Doug Jones who was mediocre fighter yet Ali struggled and got very controversial decision.

I sware I try to imagine it but even that I can't do.
I mean really Bowe beating Ali....

Without hindsight could you imagine Norton beating Ali ?? or could you imagine Jimmy Young out boxing Ali, or could you imagine Jones giving Ali all he could handle ?? or could you imagine Cruiserweight Henry Cooper knocking down Ali ??

[CutMeMick]

Remember what I said the other say that hes overrated?

Can't see how anyone could claim that Riddick Bowe could beat the 60's Ali - that is just a foolish statement.


No it isn't Ali struggled with much lesser fighters than Bowe, a 100 percent in shape Bowe would give Ali all he could handle.

I mean really Bowe "in shape" did anyone actually ever see him in shape?
ICB you've gotta be kidding man.... I mean really Riddick Bowe beating Ali (60's).....
I sware I try to imagine it but even that I can't do.
I mean really Bowe beating Ali....

a 100 percent in shape Bowe would give Ali all he could handle.

Tell me where in this comment i said Bowe would beat Ali ?? i said he would give him all he could handle which he could, is that so hard to believe a very talented Heavyweight like Bowe could actually give Ali a tough fight ??

Ali struggled with a lot of lesser fighters than Bowe in the 60s, like Doug Jones who was mediocre fighter yet Ali struggled and got very controversial decision.

I sware I try to imagine it but even that I can't do.
I mean really Bowe beating Ali....

Without hindsight could you imagine Norton beating Ali ?? or could you imagine Jimmy Young out boxing Ali, or could you imagine Jones giving Ali all he could handle ?? or could you imagine Cruiserweight Henry Cooper knocking down Ali ??

Ricardo you must be loosing your mind young lad...
You see the bold statement at the top?
"Can't see how anyone could claim that Riddick Bowe could beat the 60's Ali - that is just a foolish statement."
That was WelshDevilRob and you answered: "No it isn't Ali struggled with much lesser fighters than Bowe, a 100 percent in shape Bowe would give Ali all he could handle."
Which means that YOU can see Bowe beating Ali.
He said it's foolish to think that.
You said no it isn't.
That means you think Bowe could beat Ali.
So your saying it there when you say "No it isn't".... Foolish to think Bowe could beat Ali.
You keep talking about how Ali did and how Ali struggled but you fail to mention anything about Bowe. I mean minus Evander trilogy what does he have? Really?
I'm all ears and ready for you list of his opponents and their accomplishments....

[ICB]

Remember what I said the other say that hes overrated?

Can't see how anyone could claim that Riddick Bowe could beat the 60's Ali - that is just a foolish statement.


No it isn't Ali struggled with much lesser fighters than Bowe, a 100 percent in shape Bowe would give Ali all he could handle.

I mean really Bowe "in shape" did anyone actually ever see him in shape?
ICB you've gotta be kidding man.... I mean really Riddick Bowe beating Ali (60's).....
I sware I try to imagine it but even that I can't do.
I mean really Bowe beating Ali....

a 100 percent in shape Bowe would give Ali all he could handle.

Tell me where in this comment i said Bowe would beat Ali ?? i said he would give him all he could handle which he could, is that so hard to believe a very talented Heavyweight like Bowe could actually give Ali a tough fight ??

Ali struggled with a lot of lesser fighters than Bowe in the 60s, like Doug Jones who was mediocre fighter yet Ali struggled and got very controversial decision.

I sware I try to imagine it but even that I can't do.
I mean really Bowe beating Ali....

Without hindsight could you imagine Norton beating Ali ?? or could you imagine Jimmy Young out boxing Ali, or could you imagine Jones giving Ali all he could handle ?? or could you imagine Cruiserweight Henry Cooper knocking down Ali ??

Ricardo you must be loosing your mind young lad...
You see the bold statement at the top?
"Can't see how anyone could claim that Riddick Bowe could beat the 60's Ali - that is just a foolish statement."
That was WelshDevilRob and you answered: "No it isn't Ali struggled with much lesser fighters than Bowe, a 100 percent in shape Bowe would give Ali all he could handle."
Which means that YOU can see Bowe beating Ali.
He said it's foolish to think that.
You said no it isn't.
That means you think Bowe could beat Ali.
So your saying it there when you say "No it isn't".... Foolish to think Bowe could beat Ali.
You keep talking about how Ali did and how Ali struggled but you fail to mention anything about Bowe. I mean minus Evander trilogy what does he have? Really?
I'm all ears and ready for you list of his opponents and their accomplishments....

I was trying to say its not impossible to think Bowe could give Ali tough fight, Welsh has said in the past Bowe doesn't belong in the same ring as Ali and etc. And my comment was basically trying to imply why do you think that 6'5 235 Riddick Bowe couldn't give Ali tough fight ?? when he has a lot good skills like. Good Jab, good inside fighting, fast hands for his size, good work rate, etc.

You keep talking about how Ali did and how Ali struggled but you fail to mention anything about Bowe. I mean minus Evander trilogy what does he have? Really?

Bowe hasn't got great legacy but he had amazing skills and he was the complete package in the 1st Holyfield fight. Just like when i watch Douglas vs Tyson, yes Douglas only had 1 good fight but just off that performance you could see he would have given any Heavyweight in history a tough fight that night. And its the same with Bowe/Holyfield 1.

[WelshDevilRob]

Bowe would never have beaten Ali.

[Tysonbruno]

Riddick Bowe LOL