Does Manny Pacquiao Get Enough Credit For Dominating Marco Antonio Barrera ??

[El Gamo]

I don't think he does MAB was on a nice winning streak at the time beating the likes of Naseem Hamed, Erik Morales, Johnny Tapia, Kevin Kelley. People may say MAB wern't interested ETC, but thats not Pacquiao's fault he still deserves more credit for dominating Barrera IMO.

CC for bringing this up because I've been giving this a lot of thought. In the second fight, he dominated him easily and Barrera had just fought a very hard fought close fight with Marquez.

If that was any indication, Marquez is in for a long night.

The 2 have completely different styles and Pac is easier to counter than MAB. In Addition MAB had to fear Pac based on their previous fight and Pac's reputation. Pac is also faster so how can you base the outcome on a completely different fight plan that JMM will have to employ?

Its funny that you consider Pacquaio being easier to counter when MAB had an easier time countering Marquez who was considered the best of these guys in terms of boxing skill than he was able to against PAcquaio. Pacquaio has developed excellent timing, excution, and he doesn't get hit like he used to except when he gets too wild. People who say Pacquaio looked bad, don't know what they are talking about, or should rewatch the fight. He fought one of his best fights in overall, and by far his best defensive performance. Because MAB stayed focused it would have been stupid for Pacquaio to go gunslinging because he got countered more in those few instances than he did in the rest of the fight, and Barrera knew that he had to box to stand a chance because Pacquaio is too fast, too good, and hits too hard for Barrera to handle him.

I think Ice is talking about their first fight.As for the JMM MAB fight,how do you know that was not MAB's last great effort?He didnt show much v Manny the second time,in fact,it looked as if he was there to survive.

[GAME]

Pac doesnt get much credit for the 2nd fight with Barrera cuz neither guy did much . Alot of people thought Manny would blow a washed up Barrera away in quick time but he never even had him troubled in that fight .

I hope Barrera gives us a farewell fight and I hope Pac gets it on with Juan Diaz . No more fights with faded legends he needs to meet up and comers now .

[Julius Rain]

Pac doesnt get much credit for the 2nd fight with Barrera cuz neither guy did much . Alot of people thought Manny would blow a washed up Barrera away in quick time but he never even had him troubled in that fight .

I hope Barrera gives us a farewell fight and I hope Pac gets it on with Juan Diaz . No more fights with faded legends he needs to meet up and comers now .

Thats actually what pac said, he said he will take on jmm to end the debate over who is better. Then he wants to move up to lightweight to fight the diazs. I'm sure pac is getting tired of fighting the same guys over and over again too. I'm mean eric,marco and juan are all great but its about time to have this last bout with jmm then move on to better things like up in lightweight.

[C-Lo]

Pac doesnt get much credit for the 2nd fight with Barrera cuz neither guy did much . Alot of people thought Manny would blow a washed up Barrera away in quick time but he never even had him troubled in that fight .

I hope Barrera gives us a farewell fight and I hope Pac gets it on with Juan Diaz . No more fights with faded legends he needs to meet up and comers now .

I don't necessarily think that's true. If you watch the 11th round Pac catches Barrera and sends him to the ropes, then shortly after, a left knocked Barrera off balance, that's when Marco hugged and hit Pacquiao on the break which I felt was a way to delay the fight so he could end the momentum Pac was bringing on in the round.

If you watch that round there's no way you can say Marco wasn't in trouble.

[KKisser]

Pac doesnt get much credit for the 2nd fight with Barrera cuz neither guy did much . Alot of people thought Manny would blow a washed up Barrera away in quick time but he never even had him troubled in that fight .

I hope Barrera gives us a farewell fight and I hope Pac gets it on with Juan Diaz . No more fights with faded legends he needs to meet up and comers now .

I don't necessarily think that's true. If you watch the 11th round Pac catches Barrera and sends him to the ropes, then shortly after, a left knocked Barrera off balance, that's when Marco hugged and hit Pacquiao on the break which I felt was a way to delay the fight so he could end the momentum Pac was bringing on in the round.

If you watch that round there's no way you can say Marco wasn't in trouble.

yup, was about to say that.

[KKisser]

if manny gets pass jmm and wins against the diazes and guzman afterwards he'll get validation and full credit for all previous victories and people who would still doubt him are just plain haters.

[Addicted to_boxing]

if manny gets pass jmm and wins against the diazes and guzman afterwards he'll get validation and full credit for all previous victories and people who would still doubt him are just plain haters.

Not here kisser ( total validation) ..... Better yet what will be your stance if Juan Diaz mops the floor with Pac? I doubt JMM can,but what if does ?

[Addicted to_boxing]

if manny gets pass jmm and wins against the diazes and guzman afterwards he'll get validation and full credit for all previous victories and people who would still doubt him are just plain haters.

Not here kisser ( total validation) ..... Better yet what will be your stance if Juan Diaz mops the floor with Pac? I doubt JMM can,but what if does ?

[No Contest]

Thats the curse of being on top, no matter what you do, theres always people that want to see you fall. It seems like Manny got alot more credit when he was coming up, now that he's arrived its expected that he k.o. his opponent or it wasnt up to par... He really did beat Barerra at his own game and Barerra got outboxed.

[Addicted to_boxing]

Thats the curse of being on top, no matter what you do, theres always people that want to see you fall. It seems like Manny got alot more credit when he was coming up, now that he's arrived its expected that he k.o. his opponent or it wasnt up to par... He really did beat Barerra at his own game and Barerra got outboxed.

Bottom line is PAc did what he had to do to win (took care of business) But no way in hell can you tell me MAB was there to fight/box the guy was there to get paid and stay upright and gave nothing in the way of effort. This affected PAC a lot, had MAB come to fight he would have had his old @ss knocked out. You could see Pac was not prepared for a dull non action fight and fought to the caliber of his opponent.

[No Contest]

He wasnt letting Marco use his counter punches, darting in and out, MAB really didnt open up and go for it, but Pac didnt get impatient and make mistakes. Showed some experience, and did what was necessary to win. MAB said he thought he used the jab enough afterwards but he really was playing conservative because he knew Pac had the power to k.o. him again.

[GAME]

He wasnt letting Marco use his counter punches, darting in and out, MAB really didnt open up and go for it, but Pac didnt get impatient and make mistakes. Showed some experience, and did what was necessary to win. MAB said he thought he used the jab enough afterwards but he really was playing conservative because he knew Pac had the power to k.o. him again.

Barrera was told by his corner between rounds not to open up . It was his first fight without his long time trainer and he didnt look good at all . Maybe it was age cuz he was a decade past his best and we could see vs Juarez and Marquez he was on the slide . I think he still did well cuz he went 12 easy rounds and breezed through a fight with a guy whos supposed to be a killer and Barrera was supposed to be washed up .

[Gandalf]

He wasnt letting Marco use his counter punches, darting in and out, MAB really didnt open up and go for it, but Pac didnt get impatient and make mistakes. Showed some experience, and did what was necessary to win. MAB said he thought he used the jab enough afterwards but he really was playing conservative because he knew Pac had the power to k.o. him again.

Barrera was told by his corner between rounds not to open up . It was his first fight without his long time trainer and he didnt look good at all . Maybe it was age cuz he was a decade past his best and we could see vs Juarez and Marquez he was on the slide . I think he still did well cuz he went 12 easy rounds and breezed through a fight with a guy whos supposed to be a killer and Barrera was supposed to be washed up .

I dont think Barrera showed himself as being on the slide against Juarez nor Marquez. He held his own IMO and was unlucky in the Marquez fight with that uncalled KD

Against Pac the second time out, I do think that Barrera looked old though. That was a totally different Barrera and Ive never seen him so gun shy.

[GAME]

He wasnt letting Marco use his counter punches, darting in and out, MAB really didnt open up and go for it, but Pac didnt get impatient and make mistakes. Showed some experience, and did what was necessary to win. MAB said he thought he used the jab enough afterwards but he really was playing conservative because he knew Pac had the power to k.o. him again.

Barrera was told by his corner between rounds not to open up . It was his first fight without his long time trainer and he didnt look good at all . Maybe it was age cuz he was a decade past his best and we could see vs Juarez and Marquez he was on the slide . I think he still did well cuz he went 12 easy rounds and breezed through a fight with a guy whos supposed to be a killer and Barrera was supposed to be washed up .

I dont think Barrera showed himself as being on the slide against Juarez nor Marquez. He held his own IMO and was unlucky in the Marquez fight with that uncalled KD

Against Pac the second time out, I do think that Barrera looked old though. That was a totally different Barrera and Ive never seen him so gun shy.

Nah Barrera must have been in decline in those fights cuz in his prime he would have battered Juarez and Marquez . Here though he chose to outbox em . He didnt have the stamina or desire he once had .

[Julius Rain]

one way or the other mab can not beat pac, no matter what anyone say. pac just had mabs number.