Witter to fight Demetrius Hopkins on HBO - 22nd March

**No Contest** · 01-16-2008 08:43 PM

Witter doesnt need to fight anyone to deserve a shot at Hatton, if Urango, Collazo ,Maussa, (I can go on for days here) deserved fights. Witter has the freaking WBC belt and he needs to bring more to the table?...get off of that. Hatton should save his ducking for in the ring, because he doesnt do that often in there.

**Phil** · 01-16-2008 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

This is what Witter needs, a guy like d-hop on his record. He will get american sighting in the fact hes related to bhop and hes a great 140 contender. He needs to fight in America so that he can get their sightings and maybe set up a mega fight in this fight being a unification fight with Hatton in the states.

If he beats d-hop he needs to fight PM and then offer Hatton a mega fight in the states, with two belts and a bigger name, Hatton will fight him, simple as really. Hatton isnt ducking him he just needs to fight bigger names like dhop, to get his name bigger so Hatton can get more money in the fight. If Hatton would fight Floyd Mayweather, why on earth would he be scared to fight Junior Witter, please somebody answer that?

The reason I think he's scared to fight Witter is the fear of losing to Witter, the fear of losing to Mayweather
isn't to bad, he fought Mayweather and lost to the p4p no1, its something you can get over.
however if Witter was to knock him out I don't think he'd get over that to quick. It would hurt his pride 50 times
more than the loss to PBF. just my theory

**Tam Seddon** · 01-16-2008 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by ~Phil~

Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

This is what Witter needs, a guy like d-hop on his record. He will get american sighting in the fact hes related to bhop and hes a great 140 contender. He needs to fight in America so that he can get their sightings and maybe set up a mega fight in this fight being a unification fight with Hatton in the states.

If he beats d-hop he needs to fight PM and then offer Hatton a mega fight in the states, with two belts and a bigger name, Hatton will fight him, simple as really. Hatton isnt ducking him he just needs to fight bigger names like dhop, to get his name bigger so Hatton can get more money in the fight. If Hatton would fight Floyd Mayweather, why on earth would he be scared to fight Junior Witter, please somebody answer that?

The reason I think he's scared to fight Witter is the fear of losing to Witter, the fear of losing to Mayweather
isn't to bad, he fought Mayweather and lost to the p4p no1, its something you can get over.
however if Witter was to knock him out I don't think he'd get over that to quick. It would hurt his pride 50 times
more than the loss to PBF. just my theory

To be honest, Hatton is better than Witter.He WILL fight him its just the timing of the fight. Why fight him now, when he could fight him in the future when Witter has a bigger name and offers more to the devision instead of just another contender, if he had belts and more of a name he WILL fight Hatton. Its the timing of the fight really, not that hes scared of him.

**eagle** · 01-16-2008 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by ~Phil~

Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

This is what Witter needs, a guy like d-hop on his record. He will get american sighting in the fact hes related to bhop and hes a great 140 contender. He needs to fight in America so that he can get their sightings and maybe set up a mega fight in this fight being a unification fight with Hatton in the states.

If he beats d-hop he needs to fight PM and then offer Hatton a mega fight in the states, with two belts and a bigger name, Hatton will fight him, simple as really. Hatton isnt ducking him he just needs to fight bigger names like dhop, to get his name bigger so Hatton can get more money in the fight. If Hatton would fight Floyd Mayweather, why on earth would he be scared to fight Junior Witter, please somebody answer that?

The reason I think he's scared to fight Witter is the fear of losing to Witter, the fear of losing to Mayweather
isn't to bad, he fought Mayweather and lost to the p4p no1, its something you can get over.
however if Witter was to knock him out I don't think he'd get over that to quick. It would hurt his pride 50 times
more than the loss to PBF. just my theory

Good post. Agree with u entirely. CC

**ono** · 01-16-2008 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by No Contest

Witter doesnt need to fight anyone to deserve a shot at Hatton, if Urango, Collazo ,Maussa, (I can go on for days here) deserved fights. Witter has the freaking WBC belt and he needs to bring more to the table?...get off of that. Hatton should save his ducking for in the ring, because he doesnt do that often in there.

There was promotional reasoning behind them fights.....and it worked because they got him his fight with Mayweather.

It's like saying....because Mayweather fought Brusseles, Mitchell and Baldomir he should fight Margarito next because he's more deserving than they are. Doesn't work like that. Both hatton and Mayweather are at that point where they are superstars and they aren't going to take high risk low reward fights.....especially when they can earn mega money elsewhere....

Example: Mayweather fighting Oscar again

Example: Hatton fighting Pacman or Juan Diaz if and when they move up.

Those are the two the Hatton camp really want because of how lucrative they are....so i can't see any need in risking the chances of those 2 happening by fighting somebody as awkward and dangerous as Witter. Fighting Witter would basically put Hatton in a no win situation. He aint guna get paid much, It aint going ppv in the USA, He won't get much credit for beating him, he won't look good beating him so it makes no business sense.....until Witter makes a name for himself stateside. For that to happen, imo he needs to convincingly beat Hopkins and maybe even beat Malignaggi or Torres. If he does that, he'll have beaten all the belt holders at 140 (including Kotelnik when he beats Rees). Then he has drawing power. Then the fight becomes a superfight. Then hatton's camp become interested. Simple.

**Fenster** · 01-17-2008 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by ono

Originally Posted by No Contest

Witter doesnt need to fight anyone to deserve a shot at Hatton, if Urango, Collazo ,Maussa, (I can go on for days here) deserved fights. Witter has the freaking WBC belt and he needs to bring more to the table?...get off of that. Hatton should save his ducking for in the ring, because he doesnt do that often in there.

There was promotional reasoning behind them fights.....and it worked because they got him his fight with Mayweather.

It's like saying....because Mayweather fought Brusseles, Mitchell and Baldomir he should fight Margarito next because he's more deserving than they are. Doesn't work like that. Both hatton and Mayweather are at that point where they are superstars and they aren't going to take high risk low reward fights.....especially when they can earn mega money elsewhere....

Example: Mayweather fighting Oscar again

Example: Hatton fighting Pacman or Juan Diaz if and when they move up.

Those are the two the Hatton camp really want because of how lucrative they are....so i can't see any need in risking the chances of those 2 happening by fighting somebody as awkward and dangerous as Witter. Fighting Witter would basically put Hatton in a no win situation. He aint guna get paid much, It aint going ppv in the USA, He won't get much credit for beating him, he won't look good beating him so it makes no business sense.....until Witter makes a name for himself stateside. For that to happen, imo he needs to convincingly beat Hopkins and maybe even beat Malignaggi or Torres. If he does that, he'll have beaten all the belt holders at 140 (including Kotelnik when he beats Rees). Then he has drawing power. Then the fight becomes a superfight. Then hatton's camp become interested. Simple.

Not quite,

You missed out the most important thing.

Witter has to stop calling Ricky nasty-wasty names it hurts his feelings too much.

**SweetPea** · 01-17-2008 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by Conrad

It feels to me that HBO are lining up a fight with Paulie for the end of the year regardless of who with.

Hatton would be first choice obviously, but if that doesn't happen they have a WC in Witter with some recent US TV exposure to step in as back-up - permiting he beats D-Hop.

This is EXACTLY what HBO is doing.

**No Contest** · 01-17-2008 02:03 AM

No, those fights didnt get him the Mayweather fight, it took calling him out after the Castillo fight, and Floyd did what your supposed to do when someone calls you out. Shut them up. Frankly I wouldnt buy a PPV that had Hatton Vs. Torres or Malignaggi. I dont think he's PPV material right now. I am one of the people that thought Floyd should have fought Margarito, Margarito was worthy and Floyd ducked him. Simple as that....he will always have that hanging over him. Just like Hatton will hear Witter's name long after he retires if he doesnt fight him. I know its all about money, but IMO Hatton made enough money last fight to live like a king for the rest of his days...is he really just in it for money now? After all the badmouthing of "Money" Mayweather, oohh 50 on the wrist 100 on the chain badmouthing, now he's in it for the money too....I thought he was talking legacy up until he got KTFO.