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    Default Re: Gomez=Crazy! Accepts bout vs Cotto!

    Cotto couldn't find a better fight than Gomez? Come on man. Wish Floyd was fighting him, but he took a bigger payday and an easier fight against ODLH again. Cotto is dong the same I guess. A much easier opponent than Williams, Margo, Cintron etal.

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    Default Re: Gomez=Crazy! Accepts bout vs Cotto!

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle
    Here is a question i put to Cotto fans. You guys jump straight on FLoyds back everytime he even speaks of fighting a guy u think is not a top contender, yet here is your boy Miguel taking any easy payday against a guy who didnt even win Contender.... Is this a double standard?
    Can u imagine the shit u guys would fling at PBF if he decided to fight Gomez?
    Well eagle I'm not sure where to start here but here goes.
    For starters Cotto has never claimed to be P4P #1 in the world, PBF has and is P4P #1 in the world so right off the bat its expected that the #1 P4P fighter in the world take on the toughest challengers out there hence why hes P4P #1.

    If you notice Cottos quality of opposition has moved up and regardless of what people say the SSM was leaps and bounds for him. I mean think people actually say SSM won that fight that alone tells you how much a fighter SSM still is not only that but you have to see the Collazo performace to know that he could still perform at that high of a level. Also belive you me, that if and when SSM fights again he'll win and he'll perform very well. Remember this talk eagle.

    Not sure if you ever saw the Cotto-Zab thread and how many people here thought Zab was gonna win and Zab was a huge test for Cotto. I personally didn't think so SweetPea and I had a really good debate in that thread it was like 16 pgs. long the thread and I said Cotto would never get credit for beating Zab once he beats him.

    Quintana was Cottos 1st fight at 147, I mean Quintana was a champ and it was his step up fight, PBF fought Sharmba a blown up Welter for his 1st fight at 147? You tell me.....
    Oktay was his mandatory so he had to fight him, he had no choice. He beat him and that's what matters in the end.

    This is a gimmie fight, Gomez is to Cotto what Augustus was to PBF in 2000.

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    Default Re: Gomez=Crazy! Accepts bout vs Cotto!

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick
    Quote Originally Posted by eagle
    Here is a question i put to Cotto fans. You guys jump straight on FLoyds back everytime he even speaks of fighting a guy u think is not a top contender, yet here is your boy Miguel taking any easy payday against a guy who didnt even win Contender.... Is this a double standard?
    Can u imagine the shit u guys would fling at PBF if he decided to fight Gomez?
    Well eagle I'm not sure where to start here but here goes.
    For starters Cotto has never claimed to be P4P #1 in the world, PBF has and is P4P #1 in the world so right off the bat its expected that the #1 P4P fighter in the world take on the toughest challengers out there hence why hes P4P #1.

    If you notice Cottos quality of opposition has moved up and regardless of what people say the SSM was leaps and bounds for him. I mean think people actually say SSM won that fight that alone tells you how much a fighter SSM still is not only that but you have to see the Collazo performace to know that he could still perform at that high of a level. Also belive you me, that if and when SSM fights again he'll win and he'll perform very well. Remember this talk eagle.

    Not sure if you ever saw the Cotto-Zab thread and how many people here thought Zab was gonna win and Zab was a huge test for Cotto. I personally didn't think so SweetPea and I had a really good debate in that thread it was like 16 pgs. long the thread and I said Cotto would never get credit for beating Zab once he beats him.

    Quintana was Cottos 1st fight at 147, I mean Quintana was a champ and it was his step up fight, PBF fought Sharmba a blown up Welter for his 1st fight at 147? You tell me.....
    Oktay was his mandatory so he had to fight him, he had no choice. He beat him and that's what matters in the end.

    This is a gimmie fight, Gomez is to Cotto what Augustus was to PBF in 2000.
    hey Mick no disrespect was so ever You kind od look like a bit like Gomez
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    Default Re: Gomez=Crazy! Accepts bout vs Cotto!

    Miguel Cotto and Ivan Calderon where this evening at a local Tv show in PR and talked about alot of things but one thing he said that he does not have an opponent and that they where still wating for ODLH response untill mid next week and of of not another opponent was available too (Gomez I think)
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    Default Re: Gomez=Crazy! Accepts bout vs Cotto!

    Quote Originally Posted by ono
    Call me cynical but i'm not really impressed with his level of opposition lately.

    Branco
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    Urkal
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    Branco - Padded record....limited fighter
    Paulie - At the time Cotto fought him, Paulie hadn't beaten anybody really of note.
    Quintana - Claim to fame was beating a prospect. Understandable that Cotto wanted to adjust to 147 tho
    Urkal - Not impressed
    Zab - After Baldi and Mayweather had already beaten him, Zab had the look of a beaten fighter.
    Shane - Kudos....could argue that his best years are behind him but could argue that his win over Collazo proved he was close to being the fighter he once was. I actually picked Shane to win so repsect to Cotto for winning.

    And now he's fighting a reality TV star.
    I don't have a problem with his opposition.

    Paulie has proven to be better than people gave him credit for at the time when the fight was signed.

    Quintana was his first fight at 147, and was coming off an upset victory.

    Urkal was a mandatory who Cotto had to fight to keep his belt.

    Zab was a replacement. Remember, Cotto was ready to fight Margarito, but Margarito backed out and decided to fight Williams. Cotto needed a replacement, and Zab was a worthy choice.

    Mosley certainly proved that while he's old, he's still a very good fighter.

    Cotto is coming off two very physical and tough fights. I have no problem with him fighting Gomez. I don't see Gomez winning, but he's not a complete stiff either. I've seen guys choose much worse opponents for easy wins than Cotto is doing here with Gomez.

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    Default Re: Gomez=Crazy! Accepts bout vs Cotto!

    Quote Originally Posted by Puya
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick
    Quote Originally Posted by eagle
    Here is a question i put to Cotto fans. You guys jump straight on FLoyds back everytime he even speaks of fighting a guy u think is not a top contender, yet here is your boy Miguel taking any easy payday against a guy who didnt even win Contender.... Is this a double standard?
    Can u imagine the shit u guys would fling at PBF if he decided to fight Gomez?
    Well eagle I'm not sure where to start here but here goes.
    For starters Cotto has never claimed to be P4P #1 in the world, PBF has and is P4P #1 in the world so right off the bat its expected that the #1 P4P fighter in the world take on the toughest challengers out there hence why hes P4P #1.

    If you notice Cottos quality of opposition has moved up and regardless of what people say the SSM was leaps and bounds for him. I mean think people actually say SSM won that fight that alone tells you how much a fighter SSM still is not only that but you have to see the Collazo performace to know that he could still perform at that high of a level. Also belive you me, that if and when SSM fights again he'll win and he'll perform very well. Remember this talk eagle.

    Not sure if you ever saw the Cotto-Zab thread and how many people here thought Zab was gonna win and Zab was a huge test for Cotto. I personally didn't think so SweetPea and I had a really good debate in that thread it was like 16 pgs. long the thread and I said Cotto would never get credit for beating Zab once he beats him.

    Quintana was Cottos 1st fight at 147, I mean Quintana was a champ and it was his step up fight, PBF fought Sharmba a blown up Welter for his 1st fight at 147? You tell me.....
    Oktay was his mandatory so he had to fight him, he had no choice. He beat him and that's what matters in the end.

    This is a gimmie fight, Gomez is to Cotto what Augustus was to PBF in 2000.
    hey Mick no disrespect was so ever You kind od look like a bit like Gomez
    None taken, actually I'd love to get confused for a Gomez at a restaurant or club maybe I can get some FREE stuff.

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    Default Re: Gomez=Crazy! Accepts bout vs Cotto!

    Arum always puts together interesting cards. Judah-Margarito + Cotto-Gomez will be a couple of entertaining fights.

    Last I saw of Gomez he did a PBF-lite on a washed up Gatti. Still, it was a strong performance for Gomez and I thought he looked very good.

    I would not underestimate him, he will be a game opponent for Cotto. Gomez has everything to win by taking this fight.

    I wouldn't say this is a ballsy move by Gomez, just a smart move. He probably feels at the prime of his career, his confidence is up after his biggest name win. If he can get the second biggest name in the division right now why not take it? It is that or sacrifice more sweat and blood by taking the long route, which may end up unsuccessful anyway.


    For defense of Cotto taking the fight, why not? Gomez is a fairly big name because of the Contender. He is also unproven at this level. Give Cotto a confidence boost before sticking him in with Williams or Margarito, because either of those will be tough fights for Cotto.


    I predict both Tony and Miguel win within the distance and then fight each other. And it builds up excitement seeing them on the same card then having them fight 5 months down the road.

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    Default Re: Gomez=Crazy! Accepts bout vs Cotto!

    Hey Danny Cotto's ducking Williams whats up with that? What a scared lil Floyd he is, haha shoes on the other foot now beeyatch!

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    Default Re: Gomez=Crazy! Accepts bout vs Cotto!

    Gomez is not crazy...He will do better then most are giving him credit for...he won't win by any means but will make a good showing....Gomez wasnt to get into the mix...this is a win win for him....if he loses (and he will) people will not get down on him because he is expected to.....If he does well (and I think he will fare decently)...it will open doors for him...bigger fights in the future...

    I applaude Gomez for taking this...shows heart...
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    Default Re: Gomez=Crazy! Accepts bout vs Cotto!

    i actually am excited about this fight. Im so sick of hearing about alfonso gomez, and the rest of them that i want someone to single handedly spark each and every one of them. GOD BLESS YOU COTTO

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    Default Re: Gomez=Crazy! Accepts bout vs Cotto!

    i love the title of the thread.. gomez CRAZY..

    Every fighter wants to be the champ, why is he 'crazy' for taking this shot??

    If someone fights someone who we feel is out of their league, they are "crazy".. otherwise they are just fighting "bums".

    So far out of that season of the Contender, as far as the big names go, Sergio Mora is a fucking VAGINA.. look at the guys Manfredo has fought, Calzaghe/Lacy.. Gomez fought Gatti/Tackie/Cotto.. Mora backed down from a title fight from Taylor.. Granted these are money fights, but they are still stepping in the ring with solid opposition, and i know that Gatti/Tackie are not the toughest, but Gomez wants to fight the best and has constantly said it.. The guy has earned to be where he is, although i don't think he deserved this shot just yet.. by no means is he crazy though.


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    Default Re: Gomez=Crazy! Accepts bout vs Cotto!

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle
    Here is a question i put to Cotto fans. You guys jump straight on FLoyds back everytime he even speaks of fighting a guy u think is not a top contender, yet here is your boy Miguel taking any easy payday against a guy who didnt even win Contender.... Is this a double standard?
    Can u imagine the S*** u guys would fling at PBF if he decided to fight Gomez?
    First off...when was the last time u seen floyd fight an elite guy in his natural weight or in his prime? Secondly...Cotto is not the one going around screaming that he's p4p #1.

    He lets his fists do the talking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bx730NY
    Quote Originally Posted by eagle
    Here is a question i put to Cotto fans. You guys jump straight on FLoyds back everytime he even speaks of fighting a guy u think is not a top contender, yet here is your boy Miguel taking any easy payday against a guy who didnt even win Contender.... Is this a double standard?
    Can u imagine the S*** u guys would fling at PBF if he decided to fight Gomez?
    First off...when was the last time u seen floyd fight an elite guy in his natural weight or in his prime? Secondly...Cotto is not the one going around screaming that he's p4p #1.

    He lets his fists do the talking.
    When was the last time Cotto fought an elite guy in his natural weight or in his prime.
    Lets see, the only elite fighter Cotto has fought is SSM and he was 36.
    Double standard anyone?

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    Default Re: Gomez=Crazy! Accepts bout vs Cotto!

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle
    Quote Originally Posted by Bx730NY
    Quote Originally Posted by eagle
    Here is a question i put to Cotto fans. You guys jump straight on FLoyds back everytime he even speaks of fighting a guy u think is not a top contender, yet here is your boy Miguel taking any easy payday against a guy who didnt even win Contender.... Is this a double standard?
    Can u imagine the S*** u guys would fling at PBF if he decided to fight Gomez?
    First off...when was the last time u seen floyd fight an elite guy in his natural weight or in his prime? Secondly...Cotto is not the one going around screaming that he's p4p #1.

    He lets his fists do the talking.
    When was the last time Cotto fought an elite guy in his natural weight or in his prime.
    Lets see, the only elite fighter Cotto has fought is SSM and he was 36.
    Double standard anyone?
    Of course it's a double standard. Fans will never admit their idol is taking the easy roads.

    The fact is Cotto is a chump for taking a fight like this when there are bigger and more important f ights out there.

    The fact is Mayweather is a chump for claiming to be retired on some "I wont let boxing retire me" good guy song and dance, but will only come back for a quick payday.

    Fair enough?

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    Default Re: Gomez=Crazy! Accepts bout vs Cotto!

    Quote Originally Posted by knodaledge
    Quote Originally Posted by eagle
    Quote Originally Posted by Bx730NY
    Quote Originally Posted by eagle
    Here is a question i put to Cotto fans. You guys jump straight on FLoyds back everytime he even speaks of fighting a guy u think is not a top contender, yet here is your boy Miguel taking any easy payday against a guy who didnt even win Contender.... Is this a double standard?
    Can u imagine the S*** u guys would fling at PBF if he decided to fight Gomez?
    First off...when was the last time u seen floyd fight an elite guy in his natural weight or in his prime? Secondly...Cotto is not the one going around screaming that he's p4p #1.

    He lets his fists do the talking.
    When was the last time Cotto fought an elite guy in his natural weight or in his prime.
    Lets see, the only elite fighter Cotto has fought is SSM and he was 36.
    Double standard anyone?
    Of course it's a double standard. Fans will never admit their idol is taking the easy roads.

    The fact is Cotto is a chump for taking a fight like this when there are bigger and more important f ights out there.

    The fact is Mayweather is a chump for claiming to be retired on some "I wont let boxing retire me" good guy song and dance, but will only come back for a quick payday.

    Fair enough?
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