what's this OSCAR PBF rematch crap!!!!

[Taeth]

Name a better opponent than Oscar in terms of having a chance of beating Mayweather besides Williams who won't be touched until he makes a name for himself. Truly Oscar is the best guy Mayweather can fight, and he makes Mayweather the most money especially if Floyd Sr. is in his corner which is what a lot of people are saying.

I don't know what you are basing that on at all. I'm not seeing the logic there bro. Oscar got the fight the first time and all these concessions:

Fight was at 154

He got the ring he wanted

The gloves

and still the best he did was 116-112 loss by anyone that can score.

Now Floyd is bigger in terms of PPV and won the first fight,he does not have to make concessions. So the fight could be at 147 v a weight drained Oscar.

Who could give Floyd a tough fight(I'm not saying I'd want to see these fights but...)Spinks,Forrest,Margarito,Williams,Cotto. All,imo would do better than Oscar the first time. I have zero interest in this fight.

WHat makes this ironic is Oscar never was a pressure fighter,hasn't used his straight right hand to good effect in years and couldn't use the jab. So how can he win?>? I said these same things before the first fight and they apply equally here.No-one could refute these points and I'm pretty sure,no-one can now.

What I am getting at is Oscar is better than almost anyone with a name FLoyd can fight, including Cotto. Oscar would eat Margarito alive. He would be Vernon too IMO. What does Cotto really have that Oscar doesn't, He goes to the body more and he doesn't fail down the stretch, but he is too much slower that Floyd would pick him apart eventually.

Also 116-112 is the most the Oscar-Mayweather could be? Are you kidding me? Maybe you should rewatch the fight... Mayweather landed about 80 more punches that Oscar and not all in one round. He beat Oscar in almost every round, and almost anyone who knows how to score a fight could see that.

[El Gamo]

Name a better opponent than Oscar in terms of having a chance of beating Mayweather besides Williams who won't be touched until he makes a name for himself. Truly Oscar is the best guy Mayweather can fight, and he makes Mayweather the most money especially if Floyd Sr. is in his corner which is what a lot of people are saying.

I don't know what you are basing that on at all. I'm not seeing the logic there bro. Oscar got the fight the first time and all these concessions:

Fight was at 154

He got the ring he wanted

The gloves

and still the best he did was 116-112 loss by anyone that can score.

Now Floyd is bigger in terms of PPV and won the first fight,he does not have to make concessions. So the fight could be at 147 v a weight drained Oscar.

Who could give Floyd a tough fight(I'm not saying I'd want to see these fights but...)Spinks,Forrest,Margarito,Williams,Cotto. All,imo would do better than Oscar the first time. I have zero interest in this fight.

WHat makes this ironic is Oscar never was a pressure fighter,hasn't used his straight right hand to good effect in years and couldn't use the jab. So how can he win?>? I said these same things before the first fight and they apply equally here.No-one could refute these points and I'm pretty sure,no-one can now.

What I am getting at is Oscar is better than almost anyone with a name FLoyd can fight, including Cotto. Oscar would eat Margarito alive. He would be Vernon too IMO. What does Cotto really have that Oscar doesn't, He goes to the body more and he doesn't fail down the stretch, but he is too much slower that Floyd would pick him apart eventually.

Also 116-112 is the most the Oscar-Mayweather could be? Are you kidding me? Maybe you should rewatch the fight... Mayweather landed about 80 more punches that Oscar and not all in one round. He beat Oscar in almost every round, and almost anyone who knows how to score a fight could see that.

I don't see Oscar beating Vernon or Margarito.Can't be bothered to get into it. And I said THE BEST Oscar did. I.E it wasn't any closer than that,116-112,no closer than that.. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

[BoxingGorilla]

The thing is...

I know this is a b.s. money magnet fight but I still want to watch it. I guess that is why it's a "money magnet."

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Name a better opponent than Oscar in terms of having a chance of beating Mayweather besides Williams who won't be touched until he makes a name for himself. Truly Oscar is the best guy Mayweather can fight, and he makes Mayweather the most money especially if Floyd Sr. is in his corner which is what a lot of people are saying.

I don't know what you are basing that on at all. I'm not seeing the logic there bro. Oscar got the fight the first time and all these concessions:

Fight was at 154

He got the ring he wanted

The gloves

and still the best he did was 116-112 loss by anyone that can score.

Now Floyd is bigger in terms of PPV and won the first fight,he does not have to make concessions. So the fight could be at 147 v a weight drained Oscar.

Who could give Floyd a tough fight(I'm not saying I'd want to see these fights but...)Spinks,Forrest,Margarito,Williams,Cotto. All,imo would do better than Oscar the first time. I have zero interest in this fight.

WHat makes this ironic is Oscar never was a pressure fighter,hasn't used his straight right hand to good effect in years and couldn't use the jab. So how can he win?>? I said these same things before the first fight and they apply equally here.No-one could refute these points and I'm pretty sure,no-one can now.

What I am getting at is Oscar is better than almost anyone with a name FLoyd can fight, including Cotto. Oscar would eat Margarito alive. He would be Vernon too IMO. What does Cotto really have that Oscar doesn't, He goes to the body more and he doesn't fail down the stretch, but he is too much slower that Floyd would pick him apart eventually.

Also 116-112 is the most the Oscar-Mayweather could be? Are you kidding me? Maybe you should rewatch the fight... Mayweather landed about 80 more punches that Oscar and not all in one round. He beat Oscar in almost every round, and almost anyone who knows how to score a fight could see that.

um nope. In the last rounds of the right I'd agree but not early on.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

get it straight man, mab and oscar is totally different.

keep telling yourself that bud

yea exactly you ain't got nothing better to say. mab is not like oscar, oscar is a bitch marco is a warrior. oscar only does things to feed his greed more. can't believe you get the two twisted ooh never mind your a floyd fan. it makes sense now.

because the rest of them fight for free don't they?

[Julius Rain]

get it straight man, mab and oscar is totally different.

keep telling yourself that bud

yea exactly you ain't got nothing better to say. mab is not like oscar, oscar is a bitch marco is a warrior. oscar only does things to feed his greed more. can't believe you get the two twisted ooh never mind your a floyd fan. it makes sense now.

because the rest of them fight for free don't they?

uhh no, they also fight for history and honor. in oscars case his only still around for $$$$$$$. why em i not suprise your trying to reply to me thinking u have a smart point.

[denilson200]

This fight epitomises everything that is wrong in boxing. I thought the 2007 major match ups of Hatton Vs Mayweather, Cotto Vs Mosley, Pavlik Vs Taylor and Calzaghe Vs Kessler were a sign of things to come but to me this is just a huge step back. If you look at boxing history, rematches only happen for two reasons

1) It was a great fight and public want to see it again
2) The fight ended in controversy (Bad decisions, Bad stoppage, unfortunate cut)

DLH Vs PFB 1 was neither. It was a terrible fight and as for those people who say name some fighters who have more chance of beating PBF. It's not about that. He had his chance. He lost. So he should go to the back of the queue or fight a Cotto or Williams to prove his worth. It is as simple as that. If you want to take that argument to its extreme then Ali should have fought Frazier 10 times through the 70's because, well, he was one of only a few heavyweights who could have beaten Ali.

What it is with DLH ? The guy has lost three of his last five fights. Mayweather talks about leaving a legacy but if he fights DLH and not Cotto this will tarnish his reputation and if he loses (which he could do) then every ounce of respect that people have gotten for him after the Hatton fight will diminish. He has to fight Cotto or Williams

[Cortez The Killer]

This fight epitomises everything that is wrong in boxing. I thought the 2007 major match ups of Hatton Vs Mayweather, Cotto Vs Mosley, Pavlik Vs Taylor and Calzaghe Vs Kessler were a sign of things to come but to me this is just a huge step back. If you look at boxing history, rematches only happen for two reasons

1) It was a great fight and public want to see it again
2) The fight ended in controversy (Bad decisions, Bad stoppage, unfortunate cut)

DLH Vs PFB 1 was neither. It was a terrible fight and as for those people who say name some fighters who have more chance of beating PBF. It's not about that. He had his chance. He lost. So he should go to the back of the queue or fight a Cotto or Williams to prove his worth. It is as simple as that. If you want to take that argument to its extreme then Ali should have fought Frazier 10 times through the 70's because, well, he was one of only a few heavyweights who could have beaten Ali.

What it is with DLH ? The guy has lost three of his last five fights. Mayweather talks about leaving a legacy but if he fights DLH and not Cotto this will tarnish his reputation and if he loses (which he could do) then every ounce of respect that people have gotten for him after the Hatton fight will diminish. He has to fight Cotto or Williams

#3.

I think you make some good points. The only thing I don't necessairly agree with is that it will tarnish mayweather's legacy. Floyd should fight Cotto at some point or else it will, but it doesn't have to be his next fight. If anything waiting to fight Cotto will benefit Cotto. I think Arum knows exactly what he is doing with Cotto. he is not hurrying him along, but he is not holding him back..he is picking Cotto's fight almost perfectly. I think he would want to wait at least 2 more fights to get Cotto in with Floyd.

I think DLH has shown why fighters becoming promoters isn't necessarily as "good" as a thing that many made it out to be. There is a lot of conflict of interest. You are right that DLH-PBF II is a fight that should NOT be made and I like the points you made about it.

Actually, the thing I like to most about Cotto is he is all fighter. He doesn't have a promotional bone in his body, just lets his "company" decide for him and he will fight whoever they pick. Fighters should fight and let the promoters promote! If all fighters were their own promoters, I think we would see less corruption outside the ring (judges) but more corruption IN the ring (taking dives, forcing rematches, purposefully creating trilogies, etc.)

[undefeated]

its totally retarded--its not like the 1st fight was so close and it was controversial that pbf won. it was a 1 sided victory and the rematch is gonna be the same--who actually wants 2 c this?

[El Gamo]

It's exactly that...Craap!!!