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    Default Re: Ricky vs. Lazcano

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    1, 2 and 3 are decent points.

    4 is silly.

    Allow Ricky to make some money!?!? He just made MORE MONEY in one fight than 95% of fighters could ever dream of making in a lifetime.

    Regain his reputation and respect? He'll be HUGE favourite over the inactive punchbag Lazcano. The ONLY people he will satisfy are his lovers.. who don't care who Ricky fights as long as he's bullying and bashing someone round the ring.
    The General Public now see Hatton as a fellow who made a lot of noise before getting Knocked out by Floyd Mayweather.
    In their eyes a KO win over Lazcano will be a step toward redemption.

    And you know as well
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    Default Re: Ricky vs. Lazcano

    To ONO

    Witter has a date in March?

    Against who Hopkins dropped out and if Hatton offered Witter the fight im sure he'd scrap that date without hesitation

    Paulie just fought his way out of a potential clash with Hatton?

    He still holds a world title and has only lost one fight against one of the very best fighters around (Cotto) sure he struggled in his last fight but hes a hell of a lot more credible than Lazcano

    In their eyes a KO win over Lazcano will be a step toward redemption.

    sorry hitmandonny i aint buying that its like Jermaine Taylor fighting Manfredo next and knocking the s**t outta him even Taylor fans ll know its a weak choice

    i think a lot of people are being to lenient on Hatton here if Mayweather would have got KOed by Hatton and come back and fought someone like Jesse Feliciano he would get slated to f**k

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    Default Re: Ricky vs. Lazcano

    Quote Originally Posted by ACEA View Post
    To ONO
    sorry hitmandonny i aint buying that its like Jermaine Taylor fighting Manfredo next and knocking the s**t outta him even Taylor fans ll know its a weak choice

    i think a lot of people are being to lenient on Hatton here if Mayweather would have got KOed by Hatton and come back and fought someone like Jesse Feliciano he would get slated to f**k
    I don't agree with that.
    Is cotto getting flak for fighting Gomez?

    Did Hopkins get much flak for fighting Wright?

    If it's a totally injust fight like Oscar Forbes I see the room for criticism, but Lazcano is not bad.
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    Default Re: Ricky vs. Lazcano

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    behave ono

    Witter would drop any plan he made in the world to fight Hatton.. probably give him a 5 round head start too..
    fair point but it was obvious that Hatton wouldn't take a fight with Witter straight after being ko'd.

    Can't say i blame him.

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    Default Re: Ricky vs. Lazcano

    Quote Originally Posted by ACEA View Post
    To ONO

    Witter has a date in March?

    Against who Hopkins dropped out and if Hatton offered Witter the fight im sure he'd scrap that date without hesitation

    Paulie just fought his way out of a potential clash with Hatton?

    He still holds a world title and has only lost one fight against one of the very best fighters around (Cotto) sure he struggled in his last fight but hes a hell of a lot more credible than Lazcano

    In their eyes a KO win over Lazcano will be a step toward redemption.

    sorry hitmandonny i aint buying that its like Jermaine Taylor fighting Manfredo next and knocking the s**t outta him even Taylor fans ll know its a weak choice

    i think a lot of people are being to lenient on Hatton here if Mayweather would have got KOed by Hatton and come back and fought someone like Jesse Feliciano he would get slated to f**k
    It's not as plain sailing as you make out though.

    Witter, Malignaggi and Hatton are the best of a very average bunch of fighters.

    They aren't going to fight eachother until the timing is absolutely right.

    They can make good money cleaning up the division between them before fighting eachother when their reputations are at their highest.

    As much as we think they should be fighting eachother right now, from a business and commercial stand-point it makes much more sense for them to fight eachother when they're popularity is at its peak.

    Hatton's already has

    Witter's is getting there

    Paulie's just took a dip


    Think about it....why do you think showtime did the feature on Paulie? To build his rep.

    Why do you think Witter is fighting on HBO? To build is rep

    The fights will all happen....just give them a bit more time.

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    Default Re: Ricky vs. Lazcano

    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    I don't agree with that.
    Is cotto getting flak for fighting Gomez?

    Did Hopkins get much flak for fighting Wright?

    If it's a totally injust fight like Oscar Forbes I see the room for criticism, but Lazcano is not bad.
    For Oscar there just isnt anyone out there worth fighting (he cant fight Cotto cause he cant make 147 and it would be stupid jepordising a multimilion dollar fight) as for Hopkins v Wright, Winky is a world class operater granted it was at light heavy but the fight was worth making and it turned into a very close affair. Lazcarno is there for one reason only to get KTFO and there are plenty of fish out there for Hatton to fight.

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    Default Re: Ricky vs. Lazcano

    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    It's not as plain sailing as you make out though.

    Witter, Malignaggi and Hatton are the best of a very average bunch of fighters.

    They aren't going to fight eachother until the timing is absolutely right.

    They can make good money cleaning up the division between them before fighting eachother when their reputations are at their highest.

    As much as we think they should be fighting eachother right now, from a business and commercial stand-point it makes much more sense for them to fight eachother when they're popularity is at its peak.

    Hatton's already has

    Witter's is getting there

    Paulie's just took a dip


    Think about it....why do you think showtime did the feature on Paulie? To build his rep.

    Why do you think Witter is fighting on HBO? To build is rep

    The fights will all happen....just give them a bit more time.
    i see what you mean its just from a fans stand point its complete and utter bulls**t you have a guy like Hatton whos saying 'im only gonna fight big fights ect' then he pulls this outta the hat i mean come on.

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    Default Re: Ricky vs. Lazcano

    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    fair point but it was obvious that Hatton wouldn't take a fight with Witter straight after being ko'd.

    Can't say i blame him.
    Fair enough Hatton needs a confidence booster BUT it's just another excuse to dodge Witter.

    Witter wasn't worthy before Floyd.. Now Witter is too dangerous, Hatton needs "gimmes."

    He'll be back off to America after this fight. Witter will NEVER mean anything in the States. Hatton-Witter is a Brit fight, it wont ever be happening in America.

    So when exactly do you think Hatton will face him? Considering Hatton wont even consider a fight with Witter.
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    Default Re: Ricky vs. Lazcano

    Quote Originally Posted by ACEA View Post
    For Oscar there just isnt anyone out there worth fighting (he cant fight Cotto cause he cant make 147 and it would be stupid jepordising a multimilion dollar fight) as for Hopkins v Wright, Winky is a world class operater granted it was at light heavy but the fight was worth making and it turned into a very close affair. Lazcarno is there for one reason only to get KTFO and there are plenty of fish out there for Hatton to fight.
    For Oscar?
    He can make 154, at that weight there's plenty of guys!
    Additionally Roy Jones, Winky Wright and even Judah have all expressed interest in fighting him at his chosen weight. Yet he picks Forbes!!!

    You say there are plenty of fish out there for Hatton, but outside of Witter and Paulie, who else is there? Tores and Holt Three of the above names are world champions and one was scheduled to fight one (Holt vs world champ witter.)

    Now seeing as Ricky was in need of a confidence boost who does that leave? 140 is not that deep!!!
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    Default Re: Ricky vs. Lazcano

    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    The General Public now see Hatton as a fellow who made a lot of noise before getting Knocked out by Floyd Mayweather.
    In their eyes a KO win over Lazcano will be a step toward redemption.

    And you know as well
    You accept Lazcano, right donny?

    Look what Hatton's people say about the fight -

    "if we only get 20,000 fans through the gate we'll admit we were wrong. But Ricky transcends boxing, so that isn't going to happen"

    They're calling the people that accept this fight MUGS. Are they not?

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    Default Re: Ricky vs. Lazcano

    How many more fights is Ricky going to have before he retires i thought he said someting like five more.

    well theres the 4 champs at 140lbs + PAC and Juan Diaz so i dont see why hes scraping the barrel for opponants.

    . But Ricky transcends boxing, so that isn't going to happen

    lol there basically saying we know Lazcano aint s**t but because Ricky is so big he can fight these bums and we know (these fools) i mean fan will pay to watch it and order it on boxoffice lol

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    Default Re: Ricky vs. Lazcano

    So you're not going to watch the fight?
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    Default Re: Ricky vs. Lazcano

    I personally will only watch this fight if there is something special on the undercard, (like Witter vs. Malignaggi)

    Lazcano's Ratings

    WBC - Unrated
    WBA - Unrated
    IBF - # 12
    WBO - Unrated
    Fightnews - Unrated
    The Ring - # 7
    Boxrec - Unrated (over a year of inactivity)

    Well at least "The Ring" thinks highly of Lazcano, I don't see how he is rated at #7 still though since his only fight in the last 20 months was a loss. And before that he was simply walking on stepping stones.

    I think that as far as take it easy fights are concerned this is too far of a step down. Ricardo Torres is a good choice, Kendall Holt is also a good choice, Vivian Harris, Herman Ngoudjo, Challenge Zab Judah to comeback to 140, Edner Cherry, personally I think those are all better choices.

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    Default Re: Ricky vs. Lazcano

    I'll be honest I have no issues with the opponent because ALL THE BIG fighters do this after a loss. Could it have been a more prominent name?
    Yes.
    Lynes
    Torres
    Herman
    Holt
    Bailey
    Bruseles

    You guys know what fight I would have liked Hatton to take?
    vs. Huerta. That dude right there would give Hatton all he could handle.

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    Default Re: Ricky vs. Lazcano

    Quote Originally Posted by ACEA View Post
    i see what you mean its just from a fans stand point its complete and utter bulls**t you have a guy like Hatton whos saying 'im only gonna fight big fights ect' then he pulls this outta the hat i mean come on.
    I for one would love to see it. I'm a big hatton fan but i've also warmed to Witter after meeting him last year.

    I honestly don't think he is over-keen on the fight but i still don't think he will finish his career without fighting him.

    Be bullshit if he does.....but nobody knows whats round the corner. For all we know, Hatton's camp could just be playing hard ball. Who knows? I just think people should reserve judgement for now and form an opinion on it after Hatton and Witter's next fight.

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