Klitschko v Ibragimov - World Heavyweight Title UNIFICATION DRBR

[Spicoli]

it wasnt that klitschko didnt want to thorw, it was that he didnt want to miss a hard right and sultan moved his head after the jabs, so klitschko didnt want to risk it, its not like he had to risk it, i didnt think the fight was brong at all but i love both klitschko and ibragimov

Yeh,Who want's to risk sharp counters

[Mr. Cosell]

Understandable but Wladimir's MAIN goal is not to entertain it's to win....entertainment is icing on the cake.


Height means very little, look at Paul Williams, Nikolay Valuev, Primo Carnera, Buddy Baer and then look at Mike Tyson, Jack Dempsey, Shane Mosley, Marvin Hagler, Rocky Marciano, Joe Frazier....for every good short fighter there is a shitty tall fighter. Fighting isn't about height, weight, or arm length it's about fighting better than your opponent

I grant you that, his main goal is to win, but when you've proven over 7 or 8 rounds that you're killing someone you need to finish the job, Vlad was never in trouble, and he wouldn't have been in trouble if he had followed up some of those jabs with some deliberate and serious right crosses. I don't at all think he should have just waded in there, got in close and fought Sultan's fight, but at the same time, he had the tools and the advantage to end the night early and make a statement. He made the mental decision to just sit back, take the easy way out, and for that he will be remembered.

[El Kabong]

He made the mental decision to just sit back, take the easy way out, and for that he will be remembered.

If you are a new fan to boxing then you're going to be disappointed very often with that attitude.

At a certain point it made no sense to risk a onesided fight like that to make a statement.

He should have taken more action earlier....Wladimir wants to be a crowd pleaser, he was disappointed he didn't KO Sultan but he won and there is no way he can go back and KO Sultan now....he'll come back and KO the next poor bastard he fights and I feel sorry for them.

[Mr. Cosell]

If you are a new fan to boxing then you're going to be disappointed very often with that attitude.

At a certain point it made no sense to risk a onesided fight like that to make a statement.

He should have taken more action earlier....Wladimir wants to be a crowd pleaser, he was disappointed he didn't KO Sultan but he won and there is no way he can go back and KO Sultan now....he'll come back and KO the next poor bastard he fights and I feel sorry for them.

I'm by far a new boxing fan, mainly I'm just drunk and pissy, but you and I both know that Vlad was good enough to completely destroy Sultan, despite was "awkward" or "countering" style he may have had

[El Kabong]

Yes but the ghosts of Wladimir's past attempts to "jump on and take out" a southpaw proved a little more disasterous than this effort, however boring it was

[OumaFan]

Wlad did slap Ibragimov's right hand down well.

I blame Manny Steward to an extent. He's the one who got Wlad to start all the excessive hugging. But at least he was punching.

Its partly the style, Sultan's is still not as easy to look good against as say Brewster's is. But I'm not even a fan, I'm not gonna make excuses for everything, Wlad could have done more and was just content to do as little as possible.

I didn't even see the Duddy fight but that sounds like Duddy. Worst defense I've seen in a long time. Its like he thinks ducking the other guy's punches is condescending or something. Pavlik-Duddy is just a ridiculous mismatch.

[leftylee]

Duddy nearly got KNFO in the first round, Seriousley Pavlik would eat Duddy.

[CutMeMick]

Yes it was a boring fight. (Although theres been worst)

Wladdy won, but come on people. What did you want him to do throw the right hand repeatedly and possibly get countered with the left by Sultan. I mean watch the fight look at Sultans stance and how far back he was cocking that left hand. The slightest misscalculation by Wladdy and Sultan would have capatalized on it. If Wladdy missed with that right at any point he would have been off balance and would have been vanurable for Sultans left......
I would have liked for Wladdy to throw the right hand a little more. I do like that those of you who are complaining don't see the guy has 44 KO's in 50 wins. If the KO comes and is there he'll get it. Yes he was defensive Yes he could have been more aggressive but 1 fight out off 53 that he's been in where he does this and everyones fucken on him like flys on shit.

[El Kabong]

Thank you Mick!


No one said anything about how Wlad's defense was a lot better....did you not notice how he blocked Sultan's punches?

I just hope Wladimir doesn't make a habit of fighting in a boring manner as it will be bad for him and he'll end up trying to over compensate for past fights and it'll catch up with him

[CutMeMick]

No one said anything about how Wlad's defense was a lot better....did you not notice how he blocked Sultan's punches?

His defense was superb. The best we've seen thus far from him.
I mean Sultan landed in total 97 punches thru 12 rounds. That's less then 10 punches per round about 8 punches.

I just hope Wladimir doesn't make a habit of fighting in a boring manner as it will be bad for him and he'll end up trying to over compensate for past fights and it'll catch up with him

I hope so too, I know he wont. It's 1 fight in 53... I'll def. give him the benefit of the doubt.

[No Contest]

He fought "tall" and was very hard to hit. He took very little damage from that fight. Not the most excting fight but Wlad fought his fight and Sultan could not take him out of his gameplan. I blame Sultan more for making it boring because he is the one that had to get inside and make the fight happen, and he had no answer to the jab. Klitchko could almost knock him down with that jab, it was jolting Sultan and he wanted none of the right after tasting the left.

[El Kabong]

One could definently see it that way No Contest....even I as a die hard Wladimir fan would love to agree with you but Wladimir didn't do what he was supposed to.


But yes Sultan deserves some blame as it takes 2 to tango

[No Contest]

The reason Sultan could not counter and get inside was because Wlad didn't throw the right, when a southpaw meets a righty, the better jab usually takes it. If he did throw that right and miss he would be open for sure. He does need to throw jab combinations though instead of just the jab, if he could just double the jab more and follow it up with the cross once in awhile instead of loading up for a hard jab. I'm curious to see how he would do against Valuev who has him on reach, I wonder how he would do not being able to jab as much.

[El Kabong]

If Wlad threw a lead right then he might have been more effective but Sultan was waiting on ANY right cross and Wlad only threw it when he knew he was going to land it.....does that not show off his boxing intelligence?

He landed 44% of his punches that's really good against anyone much less a southpaw.

People all of a sudden act like a southpaw is someone easier to fight than an orthodox fighter and that is simply not true.


I think everyone would love to see a Wladimir Klitschko-Nikolay Valuev fight. I think that could be the defining fight of Wladimir's career. Valuev is a HUGE fighter and he would be a site to see falling to the canvas.

[JT Rock]

Granted a wins a win and at the end of the day that is the purpose and intended result... BUT I refuse to root or support our heavyweight champion who is intent on setting the record for throwing jabs in a fight Its bullshit that floppy cak holds when anyone gets with in an arms length of him.. Problem is the straight right is the textbook punch to throw against a southpaw and happens to be one of Wlads money punches, and he dosent throw it WTF

He is weak minded and gunshy plain and simple... there was that one sequence when he landed the 4 punch rapid fire combo that should have been a knock down... So he demonstrated that he could have imposed his will more. a 6'7 power house that is scared to get hit and was content on playing pattycake and slapping Imbragimov glove down...

Wlad has proved again that he is only on top because of the ERA he fights in, Klit would get eaten up destroyed by Heavyweights in the other Eras.. the Ali, Fraziers, Nortons, Listons, Louis, Tyson, Holyfield, Bowe, Lewis, Holmes, Moorer, Foreman etc were tough and just drown Wlad with desire and intensity.

Even The Tyson that bit Holyfields ear would have Wlad pissing his pants during the instructions and would KO him in 2..

Sad very sad