Kimbo Walks Through Abbott!!!!

[WelshDevilRob]

This Kimbo guy is like Joe Calzaghe. He hasn't fought anyone that is of any class or who isn't collecting social security. Why don't they set up a Lesnar Slice. Kimbo would be destroyed in seconds by Brock's ground game and his power. I thought it was a miracle that Mir won. He was getting his ass beat. I think submission is kind of pussy like and really doesn't work in the street. If someone arm bars me or any thing else I would crush there nutts to the point that having children would be out of the question . But I guess.......what ever he won. No holes barred I still think Brock buries him. Hell set up Slice with Randy Coture. Slice losses . Tank was a joke in UFC . The guy gets winded getting into the ring.

The comparison with Joe Calzaghe is way off, I can only assume you don't take much of an interest in Boxing.

As for Brock Lesnar he's an actor who got found out last time cos he has no power. As soon as Lesnar is hit on the chin it will shatter. Lesnars strength is on the floor and that's where he lost so god forbid what would happen if Kimbo hit him.

[southakron314]

The comparison with Joe Calzaghe is way off, I can only assume you don't take much of an interest in Boxing.

As for Brock Lesnar he's an actor who got found out last time cos he has no power. As soon as Lesnar is hit on the chin it will shatter. Lesnars strength is on the floor and that's where he lost so god forbid what would happen if Kimbo hit him.

As same for most mma glass jawers. I would pay to see a mma guy take 600 shots and not go down.

[southakron314]

The comparison with Joe Calzaghe is way off, I can only assume you don't take much of an interest in Boxing.

As for Brock Lesnar he's an actor who got found out last time cos he has no power. As soon as Lesnar is hit on the chin it will shatter. Lesnars strength is on the floor and that's where he lost so god forbid what would happen if Kimbo hit him.

Here is your overrated cream puff losing a fight to a guy with ground game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViKrFu7zCcM

[southakron314]

The guy wasnt even allowed to use knees. Kimbo tries to shoot and gets choked and his homies protest.

[DaxxKahn]

The guy wasnt even allowed to use knees. Kimbo tries to shoot and gets choked and his homies protest.

First of all Gannon cheated, The rules for the smoker fights are hands only....Gannon got him in a chokle hold and would not let go....Kimbo was up a long time before he went out...So before you start getting smug with yourself speak facts....

Second it was a long long time ago when that fight took place....Since you are soo smart take a look at Gannons MMA record, 0-1 he went into MMa based on that fight...look at the year he fought MMA as a pro....

Slice is training with one of the greatest MMA fighters of all time Bas Rutton...I agree that Kimbos ground game is more then likely horrible at this stage and a decent MMA fighter with a half assed ground game would take him on the mat but present it in the right context...Don't use a video from that far back and the fact the guy cheated to make an arguement...That is just plain BS

[luvfightgame]

As same for most mma glass jawers. I would pay to see a mma guy take 600 shots and not go down.

I hope you don't really believe that boxers have such better jaws that prevent them from going down. It is truly a testament to the difference in gloves. Be realistic, boxers have the same physical makeup. The difference is the padding of the gloves.

[luvfightgame]

This Kimbo guy is like Joe Calzaghe. He hasn't fought anyone that is of any class or who isn't collecting social security. Why don't they set up a Lesnar Slice. Kimbo would be destroyed in seconds by Brock's ground game and his power. I thought it was a miracle that Mir won. He was getting his ass beat. I think submission is kind of pussy like and really doesn't work in the street. If someone arm bars me or any thing else I would crush there nutts to the point that having children would be out of the question . But I guess.......what ever he won. No holes barred I still think Brock buries him. Hell set up Slice with Randy Coture. Slice losses . Tank was a joke in UFC . The guy gets winded getting into the ring.

I seriously disagree about submissions. Obviously they are less exciting but equally as effective. If someone breaks your arm in a fight, you're not gonna be doing a whole lot. Same with choking you out, if someone gets you in a good choke, or armbar, you are in pain and you're not in a position to do much damage to them.

[southakron314]

First of all Gannon cheated, The rules for the smoker fights are hands only....Gannon got him in a chokle hold and would not let go....Kimbo was up a long time before he went out...So before you start getting smug with yourself speak facts....

Second it was a long long time ago when that fight took place....Since you are soo smart take a look at Gannons MMA record, 0-1 he went into MMa based on that fight...look at the year he fought MMA as a pro....

Slice is training with one of the greatest MMA fighters of all time Bas Rutton...I agree that Kimbos ground game is more then likely horrible at this stage and a decent MMA fighter with a half assed ground game would take him on the mat but present it in the right context...Don't use a video from that far back and the fact the guy cheated to make an arguement...That is just plain BS

Then why did Kimbo try to shoot dummy.

[southakron314]

I seriously disagree about submissions. Obviously they are less exciting but equally as effective. If someone breaks your arm in a fight, you're not gonna be doing a whole lot. Same with choking you out, if someone gets you in a good choke, or armbar, you are in pain and you're not in a position to do much damage to them.

Trust me there are really fast ways out. One free hand and the human eye only take 12 pounds of pressure to break.

[southakron314]

Kimbo is not god. Pathetic. I cant belive people think that Kimbo kills a more powerful wrestler mma pro like Lesnar.

[NorthSideX4]

Honestly, who us Tank? A bar fighter, fat and out of shape! I'd like to see Kimbo Slice fight Fujita, Mirko, Arloski, or even Gongo!

[Heavy D]

Alright...I'm a bit like my post icon right now, so this is gonna be very piecemeal...

Arlovski has a very heavy right hand but his chin in questionable. In addition, he is not one to muck it up like Kimbo. He wasn't exactly what anyone would call "aggressive" against Werdum and Werdum doesn't have NEARLY the power of Kimbo. So yes, he probably COULD stand with Kimbo, but WOULD he?

He wasn't aggressive because he feared Werdum's takedown, not his fist. But what's important is that he was afraid. Kimbo will destroy him if he comes in afraid.

As far as the comments about MMA fighters being brought up much more competitively than boxers, you're absolutely right. Amateur MMA is FAR from readily available (even here in Mass, where MMA is being pretty readily embraced, and fighters flock from several nearby states to train, Am.MMA is just now being held on a steady basis, rather than once every few months). Many fighters start in small local leagues, and then are quickly recruited by the major organizations to fight on undercards. If they perform well, one or two more undercards, and they're on televised fights (and there are no small events in the major orgs). Even one televised win can put them in title contention within 8 fights, or as little as 3 or 4 if particularly impressive.
Look St. Pierre (17 fights and already a two time champ), or Couture (24 fights, with two coming after he retired, having held the title spereately in two weight classes on however many different occasions). They're fair amounts of fights, but compared to boxing's champs and title contenders? Absolutely nothing. Any big name transfers are generally thrown to the wolves very quickly, and as such have trouble making the transition without fading or being turned off from the sport .

South...in a real fight, they aren't going to hold the armbar until you tap, they're gonna snap your arm before you know what's going on, which you won't unless you're well trained in the ground game. And people don't just sit there and let you wail on their nuts (which you can't really punch well while being armbarred as they're covered by your own arm, or at all if you're facing the floor), or poke their eyes out (how hard is it to move their head, which you can't reach in the first place?)

And Kimbo would easily fall prey to a strong wrestler at this point in his career. He is working with the best in Bas, and Bas is managing him VERY wisely. He's already said he won't give Kimbo a fight he can't realistically win. The more he trains, the more realistically he can beat anybody. He's a slugger right now, but I think Bas will make him into a serious force in the Heavyweight division.

And lastly, whoever said Nogueira couldn't take Kimbo's shots is insane...The man has NEVER been knocked out OR subbed, while 19 of his own 31 wins have come by submission. Nog would get knocked down after trying to trade, take a beating, then sub him easily. The man is very patient and rarely misses opportunities. Bob Sapp dealt this man one of the worst beatings I have ever seen and STILL subbed him easily late in the fight. Only reason it took so long is because Sapp was able to muscle out of the subs in a way Kimbo could only hope to emulate. He's strong but not THAT strong.

[Douglas]

The guy wasnt even allowed to use knees. Kimbo tries to shoot and gets choked and his homies protest.

Yes a lot of people said it was supposed to be a bare-knuckles fight only. I don't know what all was said before the fight, but if that's the case, then yes, Gannon did cheat. Still, you've got to be pretty bad-ass to knock out Kimbo.

[Heavy D]

It's been a while, but to the best of my recollection, the rules were "Stand up only, no kicking, no ground fighting." It was basically very poor and vague rules. Gannon heard no kicks, so he thought knees were okay (A big stretch) and stand up only, so why not standing guillotine, especially when the guy shoots on you.

All that matters is that Gannon took everything Kimbo could throw back then and still dealt out more than Kimbo could handle. That being said, Kimbo is FAR from the same fighter he was back then.

[Douglas]

It's been a while, but to the best of my recollection, the rules were "Stand up only, no kicking, no ground fighting." It was basically very poor and vague rules. Gannon heard no kicks, so he thought knees were okay (A big stretch) and stand up only, so why not standing guillotine, especially when the guy shoots on you.

All that matters is that Gannon took everything Kimbo could throw back then and still dealt out more than Kimbo could handle. That being said, Kimbo is FAR from the same fighter he was back then.

Yeah hopefully he's learned a lot more by now.