Remember when Heavyweight Boxing was like this!!!!

[donnydarkoIRL]

When did I mention Valuev as one of the good fighters today? Also Foreman threw wide punches and had no defense, same with Marciano, Shavers, early Frazier, Joe Louis sure got hit a whole lot. PEter's doesn't have the worst defense in the world, he is immensely strong, he has a good beard, and he would have given many of the old school heavyweights a tough fight if he didn't come in weighing 250 pounds. Also he schooled TOney in the second fight, and once against Toney is a tough mother fucker who any mauler would have had trouble with.
Taeth Sam Peter would have been easy prey for Liston, Frazier, Shavers and perhaps even Marciano
And Toney hasn't gotten too slow to ever be ranked as even a good heavyweight.

[Lance Uppercut]

Good videos

[ICB]

When did I mention Valuev as one of the good fighters today? Also Foreman threw wide punches and had no defense, same with Marciano, Shavers, early Frazier, Joe Louis sure got hit a whole lot. PEter's doesn't have the worst defense in the world, he is immensely strong, he has a good beard, and he would have given many of the old school heavyweights a tough fight if he didn't come in weighing 250 pounds. Also he schooled TOney in the second fight, and once against Toney is a tough mother fucker who any mauler would have had trouble with.

As for exciting... Tyson dispached of wannabe heavyweight in an exciting manner, against Mitch Green, QUick Tillis it was boring as fuck because it was so easy to wrap him up that Tyson could hardly get anything off. Lennox Lewis, Holmes, Ali all at some point coasted through whole fights. What I am saying is that Peter is talented, you could see his boxing skills against Toney in the second fight, you see the handspeed before he gets tired, you see his power, strength, you saw his chin when he was taking the best Wladimir had to offer, not sure what happened against McCline(who is a beast himself), and I am saying that Wladimir took out plenty of opponents in an exciting fashion and he has a terrific KO%.

Would Wladimir beat Ali, Lewis? Of course not, but he would give them a tough fight before they landed a clean shot on him (ALi-Wladimir=Leonard-Hearns of the heavywieghts). As for now he has a good reason to be scared of getting hit because he's gased out, and he's been KO'ed by big punchers, but at least he's not Audley Harrison.

You said it here.

What I am saying is that the heavyweight division has plenty of talented guys now in Klitschko, Peter, Valuev, Ibrigamov,

[DaxxKahn]

I said STFU because your were whining, not to everybody else. I wasn't saying that Marciano and Liston weren't great champions I was just comenting on how they fought in weak eras, not to contradict what you were saying, but to let people remember that there were great fighters who fought in crummy eras. STOP taking everything I say as a dig against you, its a forum, just relax and stop thinking everything I say is directed towards you personally.

Taeth I don't whine and truth is ...I just take you personally,,,,your annoying...if it possible to be annoying online