Kessler scared of Pantera?

[Kirkland Laing]

Miranda/Miranda's people have a habit of putting out press releases like this. It may well be true and Kessler is looking for an easy fight in Denmark before he goes in with somebody good again but more likely Miranda is just one of several people he's negotiating with and they may well still fight next. Or Kessler might not be ready to go back into training yet. I don't think he'd be worried about fighting Miranda.

[p4pking]

Miranda/Miranda's people have a habit of putting out press releases like this. It may well be true and Kessler is looking for an easy fight in Denmark before he goes in with somebody good again but more likely Miranda is just one of several people he's negotiating with and they may well still fight next. Or Kessler might not be ready to go back into training yet. I don't think he'd be worried about fighting Miranda.

Have some rep, I agree with that completely. Whatever the reason that Kessler didn't accept this fight, I can't possibly see it as him being concerned about how dangerous Miranda is or w/e. Kessler would absolutely murder him imo, he couldn't miss with the 1-2 and easily hits hard enough to do what Pavlik did to Edison. If anything it would just be a more precise beatdown, as he's very accurate, a little faster than Kelly, technically better and just as strong, if not powerful. I do respect that Miranda wanted the fight though and put forth an offer. He's definetly good for the sport. I just hope I'm not proven wrong and Kessler signs to fight a no hoper. Can't see why he'd want a confidence builder as he did very well for himself against Calzaghe even taking the 12th strong.

[El Gamo]

I'd like to see a Kessler response,this is all rather one sided. Is there any fighter out there Pantera won't call out lol. A real warrior:

Wants Pavlik rematch

Wants Taylor from beef at 160

Wants Kessler

Wants Pascal

[Deanrw]

I'd like to see a Kessler response,this is all rather one sided. Is there any fighter out there Pantera won't call out lol. A real warrior:

Wants Pavlik rematch

Wants Taylor from beef at 160

Wants Kessler

Wants Pascal

Hehe yeah gotta love it. He wants a piece of everyone.

[Galaxy]

Why would Kessler be scared of Miranda? I mean he just fought Calzaghe!

[Pantera]

I'd like to see a Kessler response,this is all rather one sided. Is there any fighter out there Pantera won't call out lol. A real warrior:

Wants Pavlik rematch

Wants Taylor from beef at 160

Wants Kessler

Wants Pascal

And just a week ago he told Abraham to come to America and meet him at 165lbs so he could finish the job the ref wouldnt let him do in Germany!
(and for the record, he doesnt really want the Pascal fight. It is a fight the promoters were trying to push)

[Mikkel_K]

I'd like to see a Kessler response,this is all rather one sided.

His promoter put out a press release yesterday. Title is "Miranda is one of the options", and the main point in the press release is that there have been contacts among the camps, and that Palle has been talking to HBO about the fight. Also they're saying Kessler wouldnt mind taking the fight for the right amount of money, but that there is also other options in consideration at this point.

If interested it can be read here, although in Danish. Bear in mind that the truth is probably somewhere in between the various biased press releases...

[CFH]

I'm a fan of both fighters, but I really seriously doubt that Kessler is scared of Miranda. Kessler would out-box Pantera all day long, quite possibly stopping him IMO. Kessler would allow Miranda to come forward and bomb him with counters all night long, I don't even think it would be competitive, but maybe I'm over-rating Kessler.
I'd much rather see Miranda take on Taylor, who I think he has a better chance of beating.

[Majesty]

I have a question..

How does beating David Banks qualify Miranda to fight one of the top 3 super middleweights in the world right now?

If that question is answered, I'll jump on the bandwagon for Miranda.

[CFH]

I have a question..

How does beating David Banks qualify Miranda to fight one of the top 3 super middleweights in the world right now?

If that question is answered, I'll jump on the bandwagon for Miranda.

I haven't read all the replies to this thread, but I don't think anyone could correctly claim that Miranda is even a top 5 SMW at this point. I would say the same thing about Jermaine Taylor as well, though I'd have him closer to the top 5 than I would Miranda.

[Pantera]

I have a question..

How does beating David Banks qualify Miranda to fight one of the top 3 super middleweights in the world right now?

If that question is answered, I'll jump on the bandwagon for Miranda.

It is a win win fight for both guys.

For Kessler it gives him a good payday with huge coverage in America against a beatable well known opponent. A win over Pantera makes Kessler a big hype in America and will surely give him the huge fight he thinks he deserves.

For Miranda it gives him a good payday with huge coverage in Europe with a chance to prove that his weight excuse at 160lbs was legit. A win over Kessler wipes out the Pavlik loss and puts him on top of the 168lbs division.

Plus it is a great fight for us fans!

[CFH]

It is a win win fight for both guys.

For Kessler it gives him a good payday with huge coverage in America against a beatable well known opponent. A win over Pantera makes Kessler a big hype in America and will surely give him the huge fight he thinks he deserves.

For Miranda it gives him a good payday with huge coverage in Europe with a chance to prove that his weight excuse at 160lbs was legit. A win over Kessler wipes out the Pavlik loss and puts him on top of the 168lbs division.

Plus it is a great fight for us fans!

It's hard to argue with this post, you make some good points. The only reason I don't want to see the fight is that I'm a big fan of both fighters.

[Deanrw]

I have a question..

How does beating David Banks qualify Miranda to fight one of the top 3 super middleweights in the world right now?

If that question is answered, I'll jump on the bandwagon for Miranda.

I see it as Kessler wants to fight a high profile American based fighter on American TV. That leaves him with the choices of basically Miranda, Lacy, Taylor or Green.

Lacy is still trying to recapture what he once had and I don't think he is ready. Taylor himself is coming off two losses and deserves an easy fight or two. Green is in a contract dispute and will most likely not be available. That leaves Miranda, who not only wants the fight, but offers a style vastly different than the type of fighter Kessler has faced thus far.

On another note, Kess is coming off a loss himself and IMO, is not in the position to decide if Miranda is worthy of an opponent or not. He needs to Spit or get off the pot!

[Majesty]

It is a win win fight for both guys.

For Kessler it gives him a good payday with huge coverage in America against a beatable well known opponent. A win over Pantera makes Kessler a big hype in America and will surely give him the huge fight he thinks he deserves.

For Miranda it gives him a good payday with huge coverage in Europe with a chance to prove that his weight excuse at 160lbs was legit. A win over Kessler wipes out the Pavlik loss and puts him on top of the 168lbs division.

Plus it is a great fight for us fans!

The question I asked is the reason this fight shouldn't happen.

If Kessler wins he'll get no credit they will say that Miranda's only super middleweight victory was against David Banks who really isn't anyone to shake a stick at.

Why doesnt Miranda fight someone like Lidrande?

Thats a good super middleweight fight. Because its NOT a victory for both men. If Kessler beats Miranda now he will get little to no credit and Miranda would be cast aside as a flash in the pan.

[Deanrw]

The question I asked is the reason this fight shouldn't happen.

If Kessler wins he'll get no credit they will say that Miranda's only super middleweight victory was against David Banks who really isn't anyone to shake a stick at.

Why doesnt Miranda fight someone like Lidrande?

Thats a good super middleweight fight. Because its NOT a victory for both men. If Kessler beats Miranda now he will get little to no credit and Miranda would be cast aside as a flash in the pan.

He fought Eric Lucas, Siaca etc in the past three years. I consider Miranda more credible than those guys, even though Siaca held a belt at the time. In fact if you look at Kessler's record, the only name on there that I could positively say is better than Miranda, is Calzaghe. The rest of the names are simply not world beaters. Miranda is not below the level of competition Kessler is used to facing.