WHAT A FIGHT!!!Is Manny P4P number1 now?.Let me know your thoughts!

[El Gamo]

Man,I seldom have off days posting but this is one of them. All repped and you could say I just go my ass owned! I guess I was just overexcited because I thought it was a super fight.

Didn't you guys at least think it was a great fight?Or was it 2 guys on the decline?

[GAME]

Man,I seldom have off days posting but this is one of them. All repped and you could say I just go my ass owned! I guess I was just overexcited because I thought it was a super fight.

Didn't you guys at least think it was a great fight?Or was it 2 guys on the decline?

Both .

They werent as quick as they were at featherweight but it still made for an exciting fight IMO .

[El Gamo]

I think Valero v Manny should be made now If Valero clocked him with the punches JMM was landing,Manny wouldn't have seen the bell.

[Kev]

Man,I seldom have off days posting but this is one of them. All repped and you could say I just go my ass owned! I guess I was just overexcited because I thought it was a super fight.

Didn't you guys at least think it was a great fight?Or was it 2 guys on the decline?

Nah I thought it was an awesome fight, on the edge of my seat.

I'm just thinking now that they've had too many wars and that a fighter like Guzman, or even Valero could capitalise.

It's the same with Vazquez and Marquez. I honestly think Vazquez could lose if or when they get in with Cabellero, Ponce De Leon or Steve Molitor.

They won't be the same again imo.

It's the Castillo, Coralles syndrome.

Not that I think Pacquaio is necessarily at that stage but I think we've seen the best of both Marquez brothers and Israel Vazquez.

[Julius Rain]

bilbo p4pqueen is trying to suck up to you. don't fall for it!!!

Gamo I'll kee pac at second cause im dissapointed with his performance although he still won imo. JMM came up short and thats the bottomline, he at times had pac where he wanted him but just can't capitolize.

Game: I don't think pac speed is gone, his power is evidently still there. when he explodes with these two combine his dominant. In my honest oppinion, i think its the extra weight he puts on in less than 24 hours that makes him make a fight harder on himself. cutting down to 129 then going up to 145 does not benefit him. I know now that its best he moves up to 135 cause 130 is slowing him down.

[Kev]

bilbo p4pqueen is trying to suck up to you. don't fall for it!!!

Gamo I'll kee pac at second cause im dissapointed with his performance although he still won imo. JMM came up short and thats the bottomline, he at times had pac where he wanted him but just can't capitolize.

Game: I don't think pac speed is gone, his power is evidently still there. when he explodes with these two combine his dominant. In my honest oppinion, i think its the extra weight he puts on in less than 24 hours that makes him make a fight harder on himself. cutting down to 129 then going up to 145 does not benefit him. I know now that its best he moves up to 135 cause 130 is slowing him down.

Rains don't fall out with me buddy. You're still my fave boy on Saddo's.

you're an essential part of Clan Baggins. So you've made everyone else hate you, that matters not. I'm loyal to my Saddo friends to the hilt.











By the way if you see p4pking I've never heard of you


Just kidding buddy, I'd never turn my back on a loyal Saddo friend

[The Fightfan]

hey guys just got back from Florida and ordered this fight and man was I happy.I couldn't have topped off my vay-kay with anything better well besides sex.

Anyway only one word comes to mind when I seen that fight and it was ROBBEREY.I think besides the knockdown Marquez again got away from mostly all of Pacquiao's big shots.It wasn't so much of that upsetted me but listening to Jim Lampley absolute bias commentating.Manny should have just dropped troul and lampley would easily jumped into the ring and blown him.A little disgusting I know but it wasn't much worse from the way he commentated on the " Great Pacquiao". Look at the rounds my friend's and tell me Pac-man wasn't frustrated when he pounded his gloves and just start bouncing and sticking his arms to say "that's it" after Marquez landed 2 or 3 good shots.Then I thought I was being bias on the way I judged.So I turned to my fiancee and she said the same "I think Marquez is landing cleaner punches".


So I do have to answer 1 question.Can Judges here the announcer's? Well to me it seemed that any close round the round was to Pacquiao on Lederman's scorecard and in Lampley's mind Pac-man won every single round. I thought it was a great fight but I think PAcquiao is just how I stated a little bit ago. "He is on the downward slope and Marquez will get him".

[Saddo]

Firstly,I think it was a tremendous fight. Really really awesome fight and congrats to both fighters.Second best foty imo.

I had JMM winning by a point.However,it was a close fight and could have gone either way. These guys could have 10 fights,each would be exciting and each would be close.

I'm not dropping JMM any places in my P4P lists because it was such a dam good and close fight.He gave Manny hell and vise versa. The reason I'm putting Manny P4P number 1 is he showed some improvements tonight to deal with a stylistic nightmare.He had excellent upper body movement,not as off balance as he used to be and blocked punches to compliment good,controlled agression.He's still primarily a 1 handed fighter but uses his right more than he used to. And he won.It was close but for him to beat JMM is a great achievement.

I told you guys it would go to points. Tremendous fight,boxing fans are the winners.Although I have a feeling we won't be seeing JMM again,I don't know why.

I want Manny to whoop that over rated journeyman David Diaz!

totally agree mate don't listen to these guys mate wins over barrera, morales and Marquez.

far outdoes wins over judah, Hatton and struggling with an ageing DLH who aint had a good performance in over 4 years

manny pac in no 1 with Marquez no2

[Julius Rain]

Firstly,I think it was a tremendous fight. Really really awesome fight and congrats to both fighters.Second best foty imo.

I had JMM winning by a point.However,it was a close fight and could have gone either way. These guys could have 10 fights,each would be exciting and each would be close.

I'm not dropping JMM any places in my P4P lists because it was such a dam good and close fight.He gave Manny hell and vise versa. The reason I'm putting Manny P4P number 1 is he showed some improvements tonight to deal with a stylistic nightmare.He had excellent upper body movement,not as off balance as he used to be and blocked punches to compliment good,controlled agression.He's still primarily a 1 handed fighter but uses his right more than he used to. And he won.It was close but for him to beat JMM is a great achievement.

I told you guys it would go to points. Tremendous fight,boxing fans are the winners.Although I have a feeling we won't be seeing JMM again,I don't know why.

I want Manny to whoop that over rated journeyman David Diaz!

totally agree mate don't listen to these guys mate wins over barrera, morales and Marquez.

far outdoes wins over judah, Hatton and struggling with an ageing DLH who aint had a good performance in over 4 years

manny pac in no 1 with Marquez no2

woohooo saddo too haha

[Macho]

That fight was tremendous , was very close but with the Kdown definitely Paquiao looked the winner , in my opinion the second fight Marquez should had fight immediately after the first and i don't know why he rejected the offer of $750,000 for the rematch and then fought for $30,000 in Indonesia where costed him the Championship. Everything by his proud .........I congratulate the judges for their fair Decision of these fight that was very close until the final .........

[Julius Rain]

That fight was tremendous , was very close but with the Kdown definitely Paquiao looked the winner , in my opinion the second fight Marquez should had fight immediately after the first and i don't know why he rejected the offer of $750,000 for the rematch and then fought for $30,000 in Indonesia where costed him the Championship. I congratulate the judges for their fair Decision of these fight that was very close until the final .........

MY FRIEND MACHO, IM GLAD YOU ENJOYED THE FIGHT. i DONT' KNOW EITHER WHY JMM TURN DOWN THE IMMIDIATE REMATCH FOR 30,000 ONLY TO LOSE TO CRIS JOHN.

THE FIGHT WAS GREAT, BOTH GUYS ARE GREAT BUT PAC JUST EDGES IT OUT WITH HIS POWER.

THE REMATCH SCORECARDS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE FIRST ONE WAS, TELLING THE TALE OF PAC VS JMM. PAC DESERVING THE WIN FOR HURTING JMM MORE AND DROPPING HIM. AGREE WITH GAMO JMM PROVE HIS THE WORST STYLE FOR PAC. BUT AGAIN HE JUST KEEPS COMING UP SHORT.

[josef4334]

If anythings Pacs sliding down the p4p rankings not going up .

He looked vunerable vs Barrera and Larios and now vs Marquez. Wheres his aggression and speed gone ? It looked like he was on his way out in round 8 but JMM has never been a finisher and let him survive .

Manny now needs to forget rematching old Mexicans and start his assult on the young fighters out there .

are you saying marquez is old now? manny is fighting smart now. not something i want to see but at least he's improving.manny never looked like he was on his way out anywhere. jmm on the other hand did look like it a couple of times.

[josef4334]

I think Valero v Manny should be made now If Valero clocked him with the punches JMM was landing,Manny wouldn't have seen the bell.

yep. i think it should be made soon. i dont even think that manny should fight that overrated david diaz tho it would be a relatively easier fight than marquez. if valero lands, it could be lights out for manny and if manny lands it could be lights out for valero too. but the only factor here is that valero is not as fast as marquez so his punches could be seen coming and pac could counter it. remember pac countered marquez for the KD.

[GAME]

If anythings Pacs sliding down the p4p rankings not going up .

He looked vunerable vs Barrera and Larios and now vs Marquez. Wheres his aggression and speed gone ? It looked like he was on his way out in round 8 but JMM has never been a finisher and let him survive .

Manny now needs to forget rematching old Mexicans and start his assult on the young fighters out there .

are you saying marquez is old now? manny is fighting smart now. not something i want to see but at least he's improving.manny never looked like he was on his way out anywhere. jmm on the other hand did look like it a couple of times.

I think Pac was wobbly at the end of round 2 and hurt again in teh 8th but Marquez is visibly slower now and didnt have it in the tank to follow it up . Marquez showed decent recovery to recover in the 3rd but he was hurt more by that knockdown than any other he has suffered and it may be down to age and recovery powers not being what they used to . Even though I think Marquez won I think if they fought for a 3rd time Marquez would have a tougher fight on his hands cuz that fight took alot out of him . I dont think it took alot out of Pac its just a bad performance from him .

[Pavlik]

Pac greatly deserves his number 2 spot beating MAB, EM convincingly and JMM in a hairline. But P4P number1 hell no!!!
All I can say is for a former 107 pounder to achieve all of these is already a great feat IMO and warrants great RESPECT.
Did Manny deserves this victory, YES. In fact he should've gotten the nod 4 years ago in the first place if it wasn't for Judge Bert Clements.
Marquez wasnt battered but Manny did edge him a lil in this fight and a win is win.