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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
    This was an epic enveloped In tragedy.It wrecked both,McClellan much more physically and mentally.The accumulative damage was telling and severe.The craziness with the 20 second count was intense,have seen it a few times with Rahman Vs. Z.Lawrence and Antwon Echols Vs.Brian Barbosa.I have literally lost some very good Friends/fans arguing on this one as Benn was basically cast as a villian...."He head butted,He had a long count,He celebrated rudely on ring post as Gerald layed in ring" etc.etc.Oddly at the time Any defense or pointing out Particular fight points....did feel abit unsettling.Simply...Courageous fighters,great men.
    Benn did come across badly especially in the afterfight interview with the UK crew. The Showtime interview wasnt too bad.
    But, we have to put it in context. I believe he was having a bad time with Frank Warren at the time and Mclellan was brought over with everyone (including his own promoter) expecting him to get a hiding. It was a brutal fight and Benn was literally fighting for his life in there. So I am prepared to give a little leeway to Benn for his conduct after the fight as it was the ultimate backs to the wall performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpcompany View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
    This was an epic enveloped In tragedy.It wrecked both,McClellan much more physically and mentally.The accumulative damage was telling and severe.The craziness with the 20 second count was intense,have seen it a few times with Rahman Vs. Z.Lawrence and Antwon Echols Vs.Brian Barbosa.I have literally lost some very good Friends/fans arguing on this one as Benn was basically cast as a villian...."He head butted,He had a long count,He celebrated rudely on ring post as Gerald layed in ring" etc.etc.Oddly at the time Any defense or pointing out Particular fight points....did feel abit unsettling.Simply...Courageous fighters,great men.
    Benn did come across badly especially in the afterfight interview with the UK crew. The Showtime interview wasnt too bad.
    But, we have to put it in context. I believe he was having a bad time with Frank Warren at the time and Mclellan was brought over with everyone (including his own promoter) expecting him to get a hiding. It was a brutal fight and Benn was literally fighting for his life in there. So I am prepared to give a little leeway to Benn for his conduct after the fight as it was the ultimate backs to the wall performance.
    YOU THINK GERALD WAS BROUGH TO THE UK TO GET A HIDING ?
    ARE YOU FOR REAL ?

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    so come on guys were do you rate Benn as a fighter ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cpcompany View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
    This was an epic enveloped In tragedy.It wrecked both,McClellan much more physically and mentally.The accumulative damage was telling and severe.The craziness with the 20 second count was intense,have seen it a few times with Rahman Vs. Z.Lawrence and Antwon Echols Vs.Brian Barbosa.I have literally lost some very good Friends/fans arguing on this one as Benn was basically cast as a villian...."He head butted,He had a long count,He celebrated rudely on ring post as Gerald layed in ring" etc.etc.Oddly at the time Any defense or pointing out Particular fight points....did feel abit unsettling.Simply...Courageous fighters,great men.
    Benn did come across badly especially in the afterfight interview with the UK crew. The Showtime interview wasnt too bad.
    But, we have to put it in context. I believe he was having a bad time with Frank Warren at the time and Mclellan was brought over with everyone (including his own promoter) expecting him to get a hiding. It was a brutal fight and Benn was literally fighting for his life in there. So I am prepared to give a little leeway to Benn for his conduct after the fight as it was the ultimate backs to the wall performance.
    YOU THINK GERALD WAS BROUGH TO THE UK TO GET A HIDING ?
    ARE YOU FOR REAL ?
    Err, I meant the other way round Marra !

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpcompany View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cpcompany View Post

    Benn did come across badly especially in the afterfight interview with the UK crew. The Showtime interview wasnt too bad.
    But, we have to put it in context. I believe he was having a bad time with Frank Warren at the time and Mclellan was brought over with everyone (including his own promoter) expecting him to get a hiding. It was a brutal fight and Benn was literally fighting for his life in there. So I am prepared to give a little leeway to Benn for his conduct after the fight as it was the ultimate backs to the wall performance.
    YOU THINK GERALD WAS BROUGH TO THE UK TO GET A HIDING ?
    ARE YOU FOR REAL ?
    Err, I meant the other way round Marra !
    Yes ok

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    yes the ref did do Benn favours in that fight - the ref is just part of the furniture though as in any sport. Look at all the favours the judges have done fighters over the years !

    And as someone said you get longer to get back in the ring when you have gone through the ropes so he couldn't have been counted out there in the first round.

    It was Benn's greatest moment in boxing which unfortunately is overshadowed, rightly so, by the tragic outcome and for that reason is not talked about as it should be.

    He should have quit himself after that fight as he lost something too that night.

    Thats why I tend to disregard his two losses to Collins. Heartbreaking seeing a warrior such as him quit twice. And painful watching him get booed after his final fight....
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    Yes the ref did give Benn time to recover and he also let him get away with a lot of rabbit shots. But you still need to give credit where credit is due, Benn took one of the worst 1 sided beatings i've ever seen in a single round, yet he still comeback strong in the next round and gave McClellan a taste of his own medicine. That fight also basically finished Benn as a fighter that took a lot out of him.

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    This is one of those Taboo topics in boxing...everyone likes to avoid it...EVERYONE!!! not just those involved that night....TBH it is because it scares the SHIT!!! out of every fighter manager and promoter in the business...Believe it or not this would have seemed less tragic if there was a death that night....Everyone knows it is just one punch that can put them in the same situation....Even Geralds best friends in the business that he was friends with before the accident avoid him...Roy Jones is the only fighter in the business to ever do anything for him...For a while he donated a portion of his purses to him....Other then that there were a few fundraisers for him because all his money was gone so fast in medical bills...Sad story all around...still breaks my heart to this day....

    I seen this when it was on television for the first time and I actually cried because I was a big fan of Geralds...

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=LGz-unNi1dU

    Here is one that shows Nigel Benns feelings on what happened

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=LWP-IVtkZWs&feature=related
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    That was Benn at his peak, he had that head movement, was relaxed, experienced and confident. He was the real deal for that fight, any other version would have lost against the G man. He was never the same after that fight, he had to be helped to get into the bath and pissing blood for a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    so come on guys were do you rate Benn as a fighter ?
    Sounds Geyish.........Dont really give a fark. I love Nigel Benn.For as flawed as He was as a Boxer His intensity and desire in the ring was One of the key factors that Imbebed me as a dedicated Fan.Fought like I use to live life...Face first.From the first day I saw him live in the Dewitt Squabble followed by the Barkley scrap...(which had many a friend bashing him for "Cheating" and Me the only one in a roomfull of Drunken Americans rooting for him).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    so come on guys were do you rate Benn as a fighter ?
    Sounds Geyish.........Dont really give a fark. I love Nigel Benn.For as flawed as He was as a Boxer His intensity and desire in the ring was One of the key factors that Imbebed me as a dedicated Fan.Fought like I use to live life...Face first.From the first day I saw him live in the Dewitt Squabble followed by the Barkley scrap...(which had many a friend bashing him for "Cheating" and Me the only one in a roomfull of Drunken Americans rooting for him).

    Nigel kind of got a bad rap after all this happened...I always found him to be a decent guy from what I have ever seen of him in interviews etc...He was a dangerous fighter that could end anything at anytime with 1 shot....It was his chin that was his biggest downfall...He was not really and overly skilled technical fighter by any means and IMO he relied on that power a bit too much like many guys with big power...Benn though was so strong it often left guys with greater boxing ability on the defensive so much and in fear of countering due to being caught by one of his swaring hooks they were taken out of their game all together...

    I was a fan

    here is a decent little video of his career I found on youtube
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=YeD9Z8lDpZw
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    so come on guys were do you rate Benn as a fighter ?
    Sounds Geyish.........Dont really give a fark. I love Nigel Benn.For as flawed as He was as a Boxer His intensity and desire in the ring was One of the key factors that Imbebed me as a dedicated Fan.Fought like I use to live life...Face first.From the first day I saw him live in the Dewitt Squabble followed by the Barkley scrap...(which had many a friend bashing him for "Cheating" and Me the only one in a roomfull of Drunken Americans rooting for him).

    Nigel kind of got a bad rap after all this happened...I always found him to be a decent guy from what I have ever seen of him in interviews etc...He was a dangerous fighter that could end anything at anytime with 1 shot....It was his chin that was his biggest downfall...He was not really and overly skilled technical fighter by any means and IMO he relied on that power a bit too much like many guys with big power...Benn though was so strong it often left guys with greater boxing ability on the defensive so much and in fear of countering due to being caught by one of his swaring hooks they were taken out of their game all together...

    I was a fan

    here is a decent little video of his career I found on youtube
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=YeD9Z8lDpZw
    Nice find Daxx.I have never seen that clip.Love the build up and caping it off with The chimes of Big Ben and the KO connects,Great.He with out a doubt is in my top five favs of all time.He went through a transition,Trying to Implement more boxing (wharton ).Thought He took the Eubank Rematch as well.He was Intense but in the Interviews he reveals a true human side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Yes the ref did give Benn time to recover and he also let him get away with a lot of rabbit shots. But you still need to give credit where credit is due, Benn took one of the worst 1 sided beatings i've ever seen in a single round, yet he still comeback strong in the next round and gave McClellan a taste of his own medicine. That fight also basically finished Benn as a fighter that took a lot out of him.
    Ice im not for one minute taking anything away from Nigel , he is one of my favorite british fighters , mainly for his power - heart and vulnarability , like my american hero Tommy Hearns , he had those 3 ingredients.
    Benn showed his warrior spirt that night , but the ref did suck , and the result may have been different if he was a better ref , who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Yes the ref did give Benn time to recover and he also let him get away with a lot of rabbit shots. But you still need to give credit where credit is due, Benn took one of the worst 1 sided beatings i've ever seen in a single round, yet he still comeback strong in the next round and gave McClellan a taste of his own medicine. That fight also basically finished Benn as a fighter that took a lot out of him.
    I agree 100%. Benn was pretty much done after that fight

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    so come on guys were do you rate Benn as a fighter ?
    Sounds Geyish.........Dont really give a fark. I love Nigel Benn.For as flawed as He was as a Boxer His intensity and desire in the ring was One of the key factors that Imbebed me as a dedicated Fan.Fought like I use to live life...Face first.From the first day I saw him live in the Dewitt Squabble followed by the Barkley scrap...(which had many a friend bashing him for "Cheating" and Me the only one in a roomfull of Drunken Americans rooting for him).

    Nigel kind of got a bad rap after all this happened...I always found him to be a decent guy from what I have ever seen of him in interviews etc...He was a dangerous fighter that could end anything at anytime with 1 shot....It was his chin that was his biggest downfall...He was not really and overly skilled technical fighter by any means and IMO he relied on that power a bit too much like many guys with big power...Benn though was so strong it often left guys with greater boxing ability on the defensive so much and in fear of countering due to being caught by one of his swaring hooks they were taken out of their game all together...

    I was a fan

    here is a decent little video of his career I found on youtube
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=YeD9Z8lDpZw
    Nigel prided himself on being a bad guy.

    He had a verrry questionable youth, he was saved by the military and rumours abound to this day, of his shady connections
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