Question for the biblical religious

[Kirkland Laing]

Joy and love are human emotions, healing is something we evolved and which is still evolving within us, but I'm guessing you have a different meaning.

[luvfightgame]

The closed loop system must have a mechanism already in place in order to harness the energy being put into the earth. See getting over one of the obstacles is just the beginning.

The biggest problem is everything had to evolve at the same time. What good is it to make an evolutionary jump in one area only to have no food source, or no mate to reproduce with, or no way to digest your food. It's too many things to have possibly happened. It is actually more likely that things are devolving.

Why if evolution were true would all the prehistoric lifeforms have been so much bigger than current life forms? Wouldn't they have crawled out of the primordial ooze in a primitive weak life form? Instead we have fossils of huge versions of many of the same life forms we have now and not 1 single example of a transitional species.

Another problem is there would have been thousands of fatally flawed transitional species, but we cant find even one.

[Kirkland Laing]

The closed loop system must have a mechanism already in place in order to harness the energy being put into the earth. See getting over one of the obstacles is just the beginning.

The biggest problem is everything had to evolve at the same time. What good is it to make an evolutionary jump in one area only to have no food source, or no mate to reproduce with, or no way to digest your food. It's too many things to have possibly happened. It is actually more likely that things are devolving.

Why if evolution were true would all the prehistoric lifeforms have been so much bigger than current life forms? Wouldn't they have crawled out of the primordial ooze in a primitive weak life form? Instead we have fossils of huge versions of many of the same life forms we have now and not 1 single example of a transitional species.

Another problem is there would have been thousands of fatally flawed transitional species, but we cant find even one.

There's no need for any mechanism to be in place for life to evolve.

Nothing had to evolve at the same time. Humans didn't just crawl out of the sea and start killing animals to eat. Life began as single-celled organisms which ingested nutrients through their skins like endless single-celled organisms do today. And they reproduced asexually, like Lyle. The various species on the earth today all evolved over billions of years. Nothing happened quickly.

Species are constantly evolving, not devolving. When hominids first appeared on the earth if you were anywhere near four feet tall you could have played in the prehistoric NBA. Today we're much bigger. Various species over the billions of years of life on earth have been various sizes as they've evolved to live in their environments. You can trace the evolution of the horse from the tiny Eohippus to its current size.


We have plenty of transitional species in the fossil record, most famously Archaeopteryx which has bird and dinosaur features. Since Darwin started studying evolution the Hawthorn fly has developed a separate group that doesn't feed on hawthorn but apples instead. Human infections and diseases are constantly evolving to live with the antibiotics we use to treat them to the extent we're now having to develop totally new antibiotics. Pests like the boll weevil have evolved to become resistant to pesticides we used to use to kill them.

[El Kabong]

...evolution does not explain that there is no God...just in case you were aiming in that direction.

[Kirkland Laing]

...evolution does not explain that there is no God...just in case you were aiming in that direction.

It doesn't, you just need common sense to know there isn't a god.

[El Kabong]

It doesn't, you just need common sense to know there isn't a god.

Do you not think that life is incedible? Do you not think of why we are here and why the Universe is what it is and how it is what it is?

It's too big for me to answer and too big for you too fella

[Kirkland Laing]

It doesn't, you just need common sense to know there isn't a god.

Do you not think that life is incedible? Do you not think of why we are here and why the Universe is what it is and how it is what it is?

It's too big for me to answer and too big for you too fella

We'll know a lot better in a couple of decades when we stick a bunch of radio telescopes on the moon and we can look back at how the universe formed. It's only a matter of time till we get smart enough to work it out. Look how far we've come in 100 years.

[El Kabong]

True but Why, How, and What caused it will ALWAYS be a question.


We're told before the Universe formed there was nothing....if there was nothing then how did it form? What did it form out of?


God is not a crutch for the weak minded but should be viewed as what binds us all together as humans. We're all children of God, only some people live that better than others.

I'm not "religious" persay but I do have a spiritual side to me and I think the answers God gives us, be it in the Bible or any other religious text (bar the crazy L. Ron Hubbard book Dyanetics) is very useful and helpful to those in need spiritually, mentally, and even psychologically

[pacfan]

One time I was once doing some work outside in a very hot tropical weather and tons of sweat started to pour down from my forehead. But what surprised me just a bit was that those sweats were perfectly deflected by my eyebrows away from the eyes, and that's the first time I really knew what they were for and the first time I saw them in action. They were meant to keep the irritating sweat away from the eyes. What a nice contraption, I thought. Then I thought of the theory of evolution. According to the idea of suvivivor of the fittest, those eyebrows evolved so that I might have a better chance of surviving and passing on my genes to the future generations? So that means I evolved those eyebrows so that I can see clearly without any sweat coming into my eyes and helped me fight off successfully my ancient competitors who didn't have one? Naw, I don't buy that. That's stupid - eyebrows giving me advantage over my competitors who didn't have one? and so I survived while they went into extinction? just because of them damn eyebrows? Who am I kiddin.'

So if they really didn't have any significant effect on our survivor why were they evolved? By accident or is it just for our convenience? 'Nature' must have loved us so much if they thought of our convenience, a concept, I think, not part of the evolution theory. I'm pretty sure there are lots of other features in our body that don't have much significant effects on our survivor but are just conveniently there for us. So 'nature' has a heart afterall.

[Andre]

One time I was once doing some work outside in a very hot tropical weather and tons of sweat started to pour down from my forehead. But what surprised me just a bit was that those sweats were perfectly deflected by my eyebrows away from the eyes, and that's the first time I really knew what they were for and the first time I saw them in action. They were meant to keep the irritating sweat away from the eyes. What a nice contraption, I thought. Then I thought of the theory of evolution. According to the idea of suvivivor of the fittest, those eyebrows evolved so that I might have a better chance of surviving and passing on my genes to the future generations? So that means I evolved those eyebrows so that I can see clearly without any sweat coming into my eyes and helped me fight off successfully my ancient competitors who didn't have one? Naw, I don't buy that. That's stupid - eyebrows giving me advantage over my competitors who didn't have one? and so I survived while they went into extinction? just because of them damn eyebrows? Who am I kiddin.'

So if they really didn't have any significant effect on our survivor why were they evolved? By accident or is it just for our convenience? 'Nature' must have loved us so much if they thought of our convenience, a concept, I think, not part of the evolution theory. I'm pretty sure there are lots of other features in our body that don't have much significant effects on our survivor but are just conveniently there for us. So 'nature' has a heart afterall.

Rep for you.well said.

How good does making love feel too!
It cant be against natural law;
only against a human interpetation of a divine guideline made into a localized law for more control over the masses by the leaders, dont you think?

[Andre]

It doesn't, you just need common sense to know there isn't a god.

Do you not think that life is incedible? Do you not think of why we are here and why the Universe is what it is and how it is what it is?

It's too big for me to answer and too big for you too fella

We'll know a lot better in a couple of decades when we stick a bunch of radio telescopes on the moon and we can look back at how the universe formed. It's only a matter of time till we get smart enough to work it out. Look how far we've come in 100 years.

You will probably still only see it all from a physical perspective just closer up it may or may not give up whats behind it all.
To see things from the other side of the coin you have to move your own view point to be able to see it.
You have to want to move.
Physicality gets in the way of whats behind phyicality only from our fixed point of view.

[Kirkland Laing]

Do you not think that life is incedible? Do you not think of why we are here and why the Universe is what it is and how it is what it is?

It's too big for me to answer and too big for you too fella

We'll know a lot better in a couple of decades when we stick a bunch of radio telescopes on the moon and we can look back at how the universe formed. It's only a matter of time till we get smart enough to work it out. Look how far we've come in 100 years.

You will probably still only see it all from a physical perspective just closer up it may or may not give up whats behind it all.
To see things from the other side of the coin you have to move your own view point to be able to see it.
You have to want to move.
Physicality gets in the way of whats behind phyicality only from our fixed point of view.

That's what drugs are for. And I still don't get religious when I take them.

[Andre]

We'll know a lot better in a couple of decades when we stick a bunch of radio telescopes on the moon and we can look back at how the universe formed. It's only a matter of time till we get smart enough to work it out. Look how far we've come in 100 years.

You will probably still only see it all from a physical perspective just closer up it may or may not give up whats behind it all.
To see things from the other side of the coin you have to move your own view point to be able to see it.
You have to want to move.
Physicality gets in the way of whats behind phyicality only from our fixed point of view.

That's what drugs are for. And I still don't get religious when I take them.

All religions are man made and compiled from a greater more ancient knowledge.
What I speak of is not religion, it is the experience of naturally operating from the other side of the coin.
Religions are all still operating from the physical side of the coin like sign posts showing where and how.

I dont take mind altering ones, but some drugs are natural ,they are fine ,if you have a direction and control over them and yourself.

"Rehab is for quitters"
looks great on a tee shirt.

[brucelee]

True but Why, How, and What caused it will ALWAYS be a question.


We're told before the Universe formed there was nothing....if there was nothing then how did it form? What did it form out of?


God is not a crutch for the weak minded but should be viewed as what binds us all together as humans. We're all children of God, only some people live that better than others.

I'm not "religious" persay but I do have a spiritual side to me and I think the answers God gives us, be it in the Bible or any other religious text (bar the crazy L. Ron Hubbard book Dyanetics) is very useful and helpful to those in need spiritually, mentally, and even psychologically

I have read Ron Hubbard's Dianetics (not Dyanetics bro) and I find it interesting before when I was into meditation. I have also read his ten-volume novel and his more famous BATTLEFIELD EARTH.

I would not recommend those books for people who want to be at peace with their selves.

By the way, I've given/thrown all my Ron Hubbard collections already.

[pacfan]

One time I was once doing some work outside in a very hot tropical weather and tons of sweat started to pour down from my forehead. But what surprised me just a bit was that those sweats were perfectly deflected by my eyebrows away from the eyes, and that's the first time I really knew what they were for and the first time I saw them in action. They were meant to keep the irritating sweat away from the eyes. What a nice contraption, I thought. Then I thought of the theory of evolution. According to the idea of suvivivor of the fittest, those eyebrows evolved so that I might have a better chance of surviving and passing on my genes to the future generations? So that means I evolved those eyebrows so that I can see clearly without any sweat coming into my eyes and helped me fight off successfully my ancient competitors who didn't have one? Naw, I don't buy that. That's stupid - eyebrows giving me advantage over my competitors who didn't have one? and so I survived while they went into extinction? just because of them damn eyebrows? Who am I kiddin.'

So if they really didn't have any significant effect on our survivor why were they evolved? By accident or is it just for our convenience? 'Nature' must have loved us so much if they thought of our convenience, a concept, I think, not part of the evolution theory. I'm pretty sure there are lots of other features in our body that don't have much significant effects on our survivor but are just conveniently there for us. So 'nature' has a heart afterall.

Rep for you.well said.

How good does making love feel too!
It cant be against natural law;
only against a human interpetation of a divine guideline made into a localized law for more control over the masses by the leaders, dont you think?

Yup, that's been the worst of human nature, to interpret in every ways to suit his motives.