Fighters unfairly attached to a loss.

[killersheep]

I would say Tszyu vs. Hatton. Most people remember two things about Tszyu KO'ing Judah and losing to Hatton.

[HattonTheHammer]

I would say Tszyu vs. Hatton. Most people remember two things about Tszyu KO'ing Judah and losing to Hatton.

How do you come to that conclusion??

Hatton has proven himself as one of the all time great 140 pounders.

Judah on the other hand got demolished by tszyu and has since struggled at 147+

[killersheep]

I would say Tszyu vs. Hatton. Most people remember two things about Tszyu KO'ing Judah and losing to Hatton.

How do you come to that conclusion??

Hatton has proven himself as one of the all time great 140 pounders.

Judah on the other hand got demolished by tszyu and has since struggled at 147+

Your fanboyism has blinded you yet again. I said nothing about Hatton NOT being great. I also said nothing about Judah not struggling at 147.
Read the topic again and reread what I posted.

Tszyu's legacy will always be inseperable from the loss to Hatton.

[HattonTheHammer]

[quote=killersheep;524878]

I would say Tszyu vs. Hatton. Most people remember two things about Tszyu KO'ing Judah and losing to Hatton.

How do you come to that conclusion??

Hatton has proven himself as one of the all time great 140 pounders.

Judah on the other hand got demolished by tszyu and has since struggled at 147+

Your fanboyism has blinded you yet again. I said nothing about Hatton NOT being great. I also said nothing about Judah not struggling at 147.
Read the topic again and reread what I posted.

Tszyu's legacy will always be inseperable from the loss to Hatton.[/quote]

And why exactly is that then??

Because kostya didnt want to win bad enough
struggled to adapt to the british climate
Hatton constantly cheated on the inside
Tszyu perhaps had an extra incentive to get beat by ricky

Ive heard all these reasons used for hatton beating the likes of urango, tszyu, castillo etc already.

nothing surprises me!

[killersheep]

[quote=hattonthehammer;524880]

How do you come to that conclusion??

Hatton has proven himself as one of the all time great 140 pounders.

Judah on the other hand got demolished by tszyu and has since struggled at 147+

Your fanboyism has blinded you yet again. I said nothing about Hatton NOT being great. I also said nothing about Judah not struggling at 147.
Read the topic again and reread what I posted.

Tszyu's legacy will always be inseperable from the loss to Hatton.[/quote]

And why exactly is that then??

Because kostya didnt want to win bad enough
struggled to adapt to the british climate
Hatton constantly cheated on the inside
Tszyu perhaps had an extra incentive to get beat by ricky

Ive heard all these reasons used for hatton beating the likes of urango, tszyu, castillo etc already.

nothing surprises me!

Seriously what are you on here about? Have you been drinking?
You sound like a whiny little kid right there. You a doing what a true fanboy does, go directly into defense mode, even when there is nothing to defend.

[HattonTheHammer]

[quote=killersheep;524885]

Your fanboyism has blinded you yet again. I said nothing about Hatton NOT being great. I also said nothing about Judah not struggling at 147.
Read the topic again and reread what I posted.

Tszyu's legacy will always be inseperable from the loss to Hatton.[/quote]

And why exactly is that then??

Because kostya didnt want to win bad enough
struggled to adapt to the british climate
Hatton constantly cheated on the inside
Tszyu perhaps had an extra incentive to get beat by ricky

Ive heard all these reasons used for hatton beating the likes of urango, tszyu, castillo etc already.

nothing surprises me!

Seriously what are you on here about? Have you been drinking?
You sound like a whiny little kid right there. You a doing what a true fanboy does, go directly into defense mode, even when there is nothing to defend.

Just someone sick and tired of endless hatton bashing.

I make no qualms about being a massive hatton fan and unlike the jonny come latelys was following ricky right from his intercontinental days though please dont accuse me of having blind faith...

My point was that it was no coincidence ricky struggled at 147 as the 2 times he was there he was up against 2 of his toughest opponents (tszyu apart)

Not trying to start an argument here am merely debating an interesting topic with a fellow knowlegable fight fan.

You claimed tszyu legacy was tarnished by getting beat by the best 140 pounder for a good 3 years now.

Im just interested to know why

[killersheep]

[quote=hattonthehammer;524888]

Seriously what are you on here about? Have you been drinking?
You sound like a whiny little kid right there. You a doing what a true fanboy does, go directly into defense mode, even when there is nothing to defend.

Just someone sick and tired of endless hatton bashing.

I make no qualms about being a massive hatton fan and unlike the jonny come latelys was following ricky right from his intercontinental days though please dont accuse me of having blind faith...

My point was that it was no coincidence ricky struggled at 147 as the 2 times he was there he was up against 2 of his toughest opponents (tszyu apart)

Not trying to start an argument here am merely debating an interesting topic with a fellow knowlegable fight fan.

You claimed tszyu legacy was tarnished by getting beat by the best 140 pounder for a good 3 years now.

Im just interested to know why

Well firstly I didn't bash Hatton. As mentioned before reread the topic and reread what I posted. Tszyu's legacy was tarnished by Hatton because that ended up being his defining moment in boxing history, he will be always remembered as losing to Hatton. It is in part the fault of Kostya himself, because instead of getting back up and continuing his career he hung up the gloves. There were plenty of other 140 lbers he could have beat, but he instead chose to end his career.

[HattonTheHammer]

[quote=killersheep;524893]

Just someone sick and tired of endless hatton bashing.

I make no qualms about being a massive hatton fan and unlike the jonny come latelys was following ricky right from his intercontinental days though please dont accuse me of having blind faith...

My point was that it was no coincidence ricky struggled at 147 as the 2 times he was there he was up against 2 of his toughest opponents (tszyu apart)

Not trying to start an argument here am merely debating an interesting topic with a fellow knowlegable fight fan.

You claimed tszyu legacy was tarnished by getting beat by the best 140 pounder for a good 3 years now.

Im just interested to know why

Well firstly I didn't bash Hatton. As mentioned before reread the topic and reread what I posted. Tszyu's legacy was tarnished by Hatton because that ended up being his defining moment in boxing history, he will be always remembered as losing to Hatton. It is in part the fault of Kostya himself, because instead of getting back up and continuing his career he hung up the gloves. There were plenty of other 140 lbers he could have beat, but he instead chose to end his career.

aah right

well then i retract my previous statement

took the title of the thread and your original statement and put two and two together!!

[Pugilistic]

Jones loss to Tarver and Johnson labelled him as glass jawed.

[RozzySean]

Not just the KO to Tarver. The KO Johnson put on him was even more brutal. I think it's the back to back KO's that give Jones the label of glass chin.

Also, with Wlad, it's not just Corrie Sanders. He does have 3 KO's on his record. Some people make excuses for him about his conditioning, and that might account for the Purrity fight, but he has two legit KO's and a number of knockdowns that indicate he isn't exactly Wayne McCullough.

[killersheep]

Felix Sturm's "Loss" to ODLH as well.