So what is now your revised p4p top 10???

[Fenster]

I think Marquez beat Pac TWICE. And he beat John.

Wherever Pac is Marquez should be near him. In my case.. he must be ranked in front.

[HattonTheHammer]

I think Marquez beat Pac TWICE. And he beat John.

Wherever Pac is Marquez should be near him. In my case.. he must be ranked in front.

In an ideal world yes

But you put a guy over a man he has just been beaten by twice over and naturally people start asking questions.

Vegas judges are now pretty set on awarding fights to the busier fighters, i cant remember the last time a judge awarded a close decision on the guy with the better accuracy.

[Kel]

I think Marquez beat Pac TWICE. And he beat John.

Wherever Pac is Marquez should be near him. In my case.. he must be ranked in front.

Yeah but he had some points deducted in the John fight which obviously went againsed him in the judges eyes (also depends how the judges are scoring the round with the foul). The second Pac fight I have only seen once, live, but I never grumbled at the decision it was a close one. Should watch that again actually.

[Fenster]

I have no problem with Pac getting the decision over Marquez - twice. They were both very very close fights.

But in my book Marquez won both. Therefore Marquez is the better fighter.

So in the world of nonsense mythical P4P lists.. I think Marquez quite rightly deserves a place above Pac (if like me you believe him the superior fighter)

[Violent Demise]

1. Manny Pacquaio
2. Miguel Cotto
3. Juan Manuel Matquez
4. Israel Vasquez
5. Kelly Pavlik
6. Joe Calzaghe
7. Rafael Marquez
8. Fernando Montiel
9. Christian Mijares
10. Joel Casamayor

[Mar]

I'm just glad making the list isn't my job. There are arguments for so many different scenerio's.

[SE7EN]

WHy do people rate JMM so high ?

He lost to pac
He lost to Chris John not that long ago (though i didnt see that fight)
He had a very very questionable win against Barrera (and he did get knocked down in that fight!)

He is p4p for sure but above Cotto in some cases!? Cotto is on a long winning streak against very good opponents and def should not be below jmm

I gotta admit I'm rating him more as a featherweight but in my opinion he beat Pac first time round and only lost the second on a split decision at super. Chris John ain't on his level but yeah he lost to him and he had a couple of points deducted for fouls, I think low blows?

I did struggle with my list though, seemed simple once i started but I stick by it for now.

He beat pac both times if you ask me

I had him winning both fights by a point.

You have to be a world class athlete to go toe to toe with manny pac for 24rds and JMM did it.

I went for linares over diaz solely on the fact i feel he is a better prospect.

I had it the other way around. But look, everybody should respect the judge’s verdict because they were very close fights that could have gone either way. JMM is technically better, but he got floored 4 times. And most fans wanna see KOs or KDs in any fights. They're like slam dunks of NBA, touchdowns of NFL, and homeruns of MLB. Pac made both fights exciting. Ring officials were more impressed of Pac because of his aggresiveness and showmanship.

[Beanflicker]

Not sure about a top 10 but my top 3 are Pacquiao, Calzaghe and Cotto

[totalboxing1]

Whats people's reasoning for having Hopkins in their top 10. Surely his status there is reflective of his record and big names on it?

If its ability, taking away weight how is it justified that Pavlik goes in there. He does just the job without any exceptional skill, and his age means he doesn't have such an accomplished list of victims.

Its always difficult to weigh up people to put into a Pound-For-Pound list.

For me Hopkins wouldn't be on there, because he is abit diminished and although he has fought alot of big names, i still dont think he should be in there.

Pavlik should be, despite his lack of many great names on his record, or his technique. He still gets the job done and has a great punch.

Could there ever be a justified points system that could be created to decide a top 10 pound for pound list? I think not

[SE7EN]

Whats people's reasoning for having Hopkins in their top 10. Surely his status there is reflective of his record and big names on it?

If its ability, taking away weight how is it justified that Pavlik goes in there. He does just the job without any exceptional skill, and his age means he doesn't have such an accomplished list of victims.

Its always difficult to weigh up people to put into a Pound-For-Pound list.

For me Hopkins wouldn't be on there, because he is abit diminished and although he has fought alot of big names, i still dont think he should be in there.

Pavlik should be, despite his lack of many great names on his record, or his technique. He still gets the job done and has a great punch.

Could there ever be a justified points system that could be created to decide a top 10 pound for pound list? I think not

I think the reason Hopkins is still on the list because #3 Calzaghe had a questionable win against him. Just like Pacquiao's win against Marquez.

[C-Lo]

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Juan Manuel Marquez
3. Miguel Cotto
4. Joe Calzaghe
5. Israel Vasquez
6. Kelly Pavlik
7. Rafael Marquez
8. Bernard Hopkins
9. Cristian Mijares
10. Joel Casamayor

[C-Lo]

Anyone else finding it weird looking at all these P4P lists and not seeing Mayweather's name on it?

[:::PSL:::]

Anyone else finding it weird looking at all these P4P lists and not seeing Mayweather's name on it?

It is weird.

[CFH]

These lists are so subjective, but I'll give it a shot.

1. Pacquiao
2. J.M. Marquez
3. Vazquez
4. Calzaghe
5. Cotto
6. Hopkins
7. Rafa Marquez
8. Mijares
9. Pavlik
10. Guzman (based on skills, he'd be higher if he'd fought better competition)

[Put Em' Up]

Not really all that much has changed on my list. A few bum ups and additions

I added either Ivan Calderon or Chris John at #10 can not really decide

1. Joe Calzaghe
2. Manny Pacquiao. ( #1 and #2 can go either way)
3. Israel Vazquez
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Kelly Pavlik
6. Bernard Hopkins
7. Miguel Cotto
8. Ricky Hatton
9. Rafael Marquez
10. Ivan Calderon/Chris John