andrew hartley shadow boxing

[AdamGB]

I need to see your feet, I can't see them but judging by the way your upper body moves they're wrong. Looks like you're flat footed and you've got no bounce at the knees, as far as I can see everything is coming from the top of your body.

Where's your target? You're Jabbing one way and crossing another.

The path of your right cross is all wrong to, it's called a cross but you don't literally punch right across your self.

[Youngblood]

lol one rip outta all the posts aint bad TM. its progress.

well anyways..Thunder you dont got a trainer??

To the best of my knowledge, he has no trainer, has never formally trained, and has never fought as an amateur. Decided to go pro one day and signed himself up and here is the obvious results.

I wouldn't mind seeing Andrew get training. As in, walk his ass into a gym there 3 + times a week for something other then making a tape for youtube. Not only do I think it will help with some technique, but I think it will help him gain some respect for the sport.

But you are here now Andrew, so let us see if you are sincere about wanting help, or just wanting to promote more of the same thing that got you talked about for what I think are the wrong reasons in boxing.

Ball is in your court.

[HattonTheHammer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R00zfDNwxm8 thell me what you think and what do i need to work on

Could try learning to spell your own name along with a whole range of simple words you seem to be struggling with.

And dont let anyone tell you your dyslexic... just very thick

[Trainer Monkey]

Ok since you asked
I sat down with Feur(A former Toughman champ) and we itemized

1. The hook is too tight and over reaching...not a proper hook...will not deliver power and will put you off balance.
2. The jabs are too slow and are not doubled up enough. None of the jabs are being committed to.
3. The shoulders are hunched up and too tight. This saps your power and energy.
4. Your hand positioning is restricting your ability to see your opponent. It also leaves you vulnerable to the upper cut.
5. You were getting into too much of a rhythm which will enable your opponent to easily time you out.
6. I only saw jab jab hook over and over again for the most part. You need to develop a better library of combinations. I did not see a single cross or upper cut...make sure that you work these into your combinations.
7. You show no interest in going to the body at all.
8. Your bob and weave is too slow and easily timed out by an opponent.
9. The elbow blocks leave your ribs open and inhibit your ability to see your opponent even more...especially the way you turn your head with the block.
10. We both saw some hammer blows in your shadow boxing routine...these are not legal and refs are good at spotting them and calling you on them.
11. Get up on your toes more.

[AdamGB]

lol one rip outta all the posts aint bad TM. its progress.

well anyways..Thunder you dont got a trainer??

To the best of my knowledge, he has no trainer, has never formally trained, and has never fought as an amateur. Decided to go pro one day and signed himself up and here is the obvious results.

I wouldn't mind seeing Andrew get training. As in, walk his ass into a gym there 3 + times a week for something other then making a tape for youtube. Not only do I think it will help with some technique, but I think it will help him gain some respect for the sport.

But you are here now Andrew, so let us see if you are sincere about wanting help, or just wanting to promote more of the same thing that got you talked about for what I think are the wrong reasons in boxing.

Ball is in your court.

I've seen footage of Hartley sparring in Gyms, he's had like 14 pro fights or something... all but 2 of them losses but 14 pro fights at the end of the day.

I think you're confusing him with Zelenoff... he's literally only lost to Hartley and that is it... no real training, no previous fights etc

Hartley seems to have put a bit more work in than Zelenoff (can't say how much) he just doesn't seem extremely talented... but hey... he's in the right place... if he listens and works at it he can improve, the same as any one else.

[Youngblood]

lol - I may have inadvertantly described Zelenoff too.

But seriously, Andrew has no amateur. I read where he said had no prior training. He has no trainer now, unless he got one in the last week or so. And I believe any of the vids in the gym were at slugout where he sorta showed up to make them for youtube. Unless he has fibbed somewhere.

So basically if what he says is true, yea...14 pro fights and essentially zero training.

I've seen Andrew in here since it got moved. Wondering if he heeded any advice or is just looking to create more shit-talking.

[Trainer Monkey]

lol - I may have inadvertantly described Zelenoff too.

But seriously, Andrew has no amateur. I read where he said had no prior training. He has no trainer now, unless he got one in the last week or so. And I believe any of the vids in the gym were at slugout where he sorta showed up to make them for youtube. Unless he has fibbed somewhere.

So basically if what he says is true, yea...14 pro fights and essentially zero training.

I've seen Andrew in here since it got moved. Wondering if he heeded any advice or is just looking to create more shit-talking.

Well if he is serious about this,I laid out MORE then enough stuff for him to work on
If he isnt,see ya on the canvas,because,Im old and broken but if thats how he fights,I could drop him. Somebody in training,dear god allmighty

[Trainer Monkey]

I should explain something
A double hand up guard is designed for a shorter opponent to close space by bobbing and weaving in
If your upright,dont throw a body hook,and bob and weave at half the speed of smell,your going to get killed trying that
Go back and watch the video,and tell me this kid doesnt deserve his record. He's young enough to fix,but as Youngblood says,he's going to have to want it

[Tom Tabin]

You look like a cardboard box

[donnydarkoIRL]

Andrew,

I'm not a veteran of the sport nor a decorated trainer. I'm a basic boxer.
But it's the basics that lay the foundations for greater things. Ignore anything flashy or "devastating" stick to the simple stuff "Jab-Cross-hook" then move on.
Step by Step.
Take your time.

HmD.

[Von Milash]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R00zfDNwxm8 thell me what you think and what do i need to work on

looks great, but you forgot to put in the part where your ass hits the canvas.