Tszyu quit on his stool, does this mean he was not a warrior? Why all the MMA hype?

[rjj tszyu]

The difference with Paul Williams is that he actually beat Margarito and Cotto didn't even last 12 rounds

You call that a beating you dumb little biatch?
Did you see Tony's face after his so called fight with Margarito? Not a scratch on it. Did you see Tony's face after his fight against Cotto? Paul and Tony hugged so much the fight put me to sleep. Cottotried to beat Tony while Paul was just hopping to get a gift decision

Did I once say PW gave Margarito a beating ? NO and there is the big difference, Cotto tried and he couldn't and never will beat Margarito. Whearas Paul Williams done just that. Your just bitter cuz your boy couldn't even make it to the scorecards So much for Cotto the great

I think your being a bit hard on Cotto. This is what could make him great. If he comes back and even loses again to Marg he can be great. Look at Barrera he got beat twice off a mediocre Jones (and I am not saying Tony is mediocre before anyone jumps on me) but dominated everyone else to become an ATG.

[bcollins]

You call that a beating you dumb little biatch?
Did you see Tony's face after his so called fight with Margarito? Not a scratch on it. Did you see Tony's face after his fight against Cotto? Paul and Tony hugged so much the fight put me to sleep. Cottotried to beat Tony while Paul was just hopping to get a gift decision

Did I once say PW gave Margarito a beating ? NO and there is the big difference, Cotto tried and he couldn't and never will beat Margarito. Whearas Paul Williams done just that. Your just bitter cuz your boy couldn't even make it to the scorecards So much for Cotto the great

I think your being a bit hard on Cotto. This is what could make him great. If he comes back and even loses again to Marg he can be great. Look at Barrera he got beat twice off a mediocre Jones (and I am not saying Tony is mediocre before anyone jumps on me) but dominated everyone else to become an ATG.

I think we're a bit hard on a lot of boxers...and not in a perverted way (for most of us). I know there are a lot of people on here actively involved in the sport, and you rarely hear them going on about how a fighter quit, or is a loser, blah blah blah. Unless you're a world class boxer, you really shouldn't disrespect what these guys go through, in and out of the ring.

It kills me to hear people talk bad about Cotto - especially when the people doing the talking have never been in with someone like Margarito for one round, much less stood up to him for 11.

Have some respect, please.

[SigmaMu]

The difference with Paul Williams is that he actually beat Margarito and Cotto didn't even last 12 rounds

You call that a beating you dumb little biatch?
Did you see Tony's face after his so called fight with Margarito? Not a scratch on it. Did you see Tony's face after his fight against Cotto? Paul and Tony hugged so much the fight put me to sleep. Cottotried to beat Tony while Paul was just hopping to get a gift decision

Did I once say PW gave Margarito a beating ? NO and there is the big difference, Cotto tried and he couldn't and never will beat Margarito. Whearas Paul Williams done just that. Your just bitter cuz your boy couldn't even make it to the scorecards So much for Cotto the great

No wonder no one likes your punk azz, you are making the violent dark side look bad too, Yo VD handle your biatch boys they are acting about as gay as the d1ldo clan. Check that fool.

[leftylee]

You call that a beating you dumb little biatch?
Did you see Tony's face after his so called fight with Margarito? Not a scratch on it. Did you see Tony's face after his fight against Cotto? Paul and Tony hugged so much the fight put me to sleep. Cottotried to beat Tony while Paul was just hopping to get a gift decision

Did I once say PW gave Margarito a beating ? NO and there is the big difference, Cotto tried and he couldn't and never will beat Margarito. Whearas Paul Williams done just that. Your just bitter cuz your boy couldn't even make it to the scorecards So much for Cotto the great

No wonder no one likes your punk azz, you are making the violent dark side look bad too, Yo VD handleyour biatch boys they are acting about as gay as the d1ldo clan. Check that fool.

Post something else rather than the welterweights and Sergio Mora. Same shit over and over. Cotto a warrior, Mayweather a fraud, Margarito tough...damm

[ono]

Did I once say PW gave Margarito a beating ? NO and there is the big difference, Cotto tried and he couldn't and never will beat Margarito. Whearas Paul Williams done just that. Your just bitter cuz your boy couldn't even make it to the scorecards So much for Cotto the great

No wonder no one likes your punk azz, you are making the violent dark side look bad too, Yo VD handleyour biatch boys they are acting about as gay as the d1ldo clan. Check that fool.

Post something else rather than the welterweights and Sergio Mora. Same shit over and over. Cotto a warrior, Mayweather a fraud, Margarito tough...damm

Amen

We get it already

[p4pking]

I will label Cotto a "quitter" or "not a warrior" if he will take a knee again in his future fights...

Yeah, what a bitch huh? Tool.

[p4pking]

And what the hell is up with this thread/place these days. There are clans now? Like people have actually joined Bilbo and VD just to get reps or something? How sad.

[Mr140]

Look danny i know your in love with Cotto and all but make fun of Paul Williams is not helping your boy Cotto out. William beat Margrito clearly and he was able to do what Cotto did but keep it up with out getting the crap kicked out of him. So lets leave Paul alone he did somthing Cotto could not do so i give him his credit were credit is due.

[Ghost]

Kostya Tszyu quit on his stool, does this mean he was not a warrior?

Can you name any other great fighters who quit?

Roberto Duran

[Spicoli]

I might have an ass-back wards view on "quitting" here.I do not care if a guy is physically beat down over 10 rounds OR soundly out boxed and frustrated and turns his back........His opponent PUT him in that position,worked for the result and physically and /or mentally instilled doubts and caused they're opponent to react to they're actions,one way or the other.I just do not buy "quitter" label as if the decision making process was ALL up to the defeated as opposed to the victor.You TAKE a victory in many different ways,Its not free and it's not Given to you. No....right now the only thing I'm drinking is Iced Tea

Maybe its just symantics........I just hate that Label as it disparages the winner and can In many cases over shadow the defeat eds past and future accomplishments ??

[TitoFan]

I will label Cotto a "quitter" or "not a warrior" if he will take a knee again in his future fights...

I usually respect your opinions, but posting this sh*t over and over again in every post related to Cotto's alleged quitting is really taking my opinion of your posts down quite a few pegs. To be honest with you, you probably deserve the neg reps you've been given. Usually when a person keeps chanting the same sh*t over and over and over again, ad nauseaum, it's a sure sign that there's no real reasoning behind the statement. But again, you're entitled to your opinion, regardless of how annoying and baseless it's turning out to be.

[Kev]

And what the hell is up with this thread/place these days. There are clans now? Like people have actually joined Bilbo and VD just to get reps or something? How sad.

Just say the word and you're in buddy, I always liked you

[THE THIRD MAN]

Kostya Tszyu quit on his stool, does this mean he was not a warrior?

Can you name any other great fighters who quit?

Which got me to thinking about the MMA, why all this hype about a sport where fighters quit all of the time, when a fighter taps out, does this make his less of a man or less of a fighter?

I am just bringing this up because people are calling Cotto a quiter but if you watch the fight as I have watched it, Miguel took a lot of punishment and should have been knocked out in the second, the seventh, the eigth, the 10th and in the eleventh. Miguel could have easily taken more knees a lot earlier, didnt someone mention Gary Lockett in another thread?


Only those with superior chins have been able to go the distance with Margarito. We all know that Miguel has a less than perfect chin but to say he is not a warrior is pure bullshiet. Miguel never tried to clintch at every chance he got, he went to war. Some one mentioned that Hatton vs Mayweather Jr was a great fight. Are you fucking kinding me? All Floyd did was hold. Ricky got hit once and was out. How long would Hatton last against Margarito? LMAO! Cotto did not get hit once, Cotto got hit good and plenty and everywhere. Tony hit Miguel in the head, neck, shoulders, arms, body, hip and even while Miguel was down

FOTY!

Anyone who says Miguel is not a warrior or a great fighter needs to get their eyes checked.

BTW, how much holding and hugging did Paul Williams do against Margarito?

Miguel could have hugged Tony until the cows came home but he didn't, he put up a great fight.

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Tszyu is not a quitter and neither is Cotto, both are warriors who lost to the better man on the night. Joe Frazier quit on the stool in the 'Thriller in Manilla' yet this fight ranks very highly amongst the greatest Heavyweight fights of all time. Joe Frazier was not a quitter, it was common sense and for the protection of the fighter that his corner would not let him continue, even Ali himself could barely come out for round 15!.
Look at Joe Frazier these days, the guy can hardly put a sentence together, what do we want from these guys? Cotto will live to fight another day and hopefully comeback better than ever and like a true champion regain his title and defend it successfully for a few more years until a new young warrior comes along to take it from him just like Hatton with Tszyu.

[rjj tszyu]

Kostya Tszyu quit on his stool, does this mean he was not a warrior?

Can you name any other great fighters who quit?

Which got me to thinking about the MMA, why all this hype about a sport where fighters quit all of the time, when a fighter taps out, does this make his less of a man or less of a fighter?

I am just bringing this up because people are calling Cotto a quiter but if you watch the fight as I have watched it, Miguel took a lot of punishment and should have been knocked out in the second, the seventh, the eigth, the 10th and in the eleventh. Miguel could have easily taken more knees a lot earlier, didnt someone mention Gary Lockett in another thread?


Only those with superior chins have been able to go the distance with Margarito. We all know that Miguel has a less than perfect chin but to say he is not a warrior is pure bullshiet. Miguel never tried to clintch at every chance he got, he went to war. Some one mentioned that Hatton vs Mayweather Jr was a great fight. Are you fucking kinding me? All Floyd did was hold. Ricky got hit once and was out. How long would Hatton last against Margarito? LMAO! Cotto did not get hit once, Cotto got hit good and plenty and everywhere. Tony hit Miguel in the head, neck, shoulders, arms, body, hip and even while Miguel was down

FOTY!

Anyone who says Miguel is not a warrior or a great fighter needs to get their eyes checked.

BTW, how much holding and hugging did Paul Williams do against Margarito?

Miguel could have hugged Tony until the cows came home but he didn't, he put up a great fight.

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Tszyu is not a quitter and neither is Cotto, both are warriors who lost to the better man on the night. Joe Frazier quit on the stool in the 'Thriller in Manilla' yet this fight ranks very highly amongst the greatest Heavyweight fights of all time. Joe Frazier was not a quitter, it was common sense and for the protection of the fighter that his corner would not let him continue, even Ali himself could barely come out for round 15!.
Look at Joe Frazier these days, the guy can hardly put a sentence together, what do we want from these guys? Cotto will live to fight another day and hopefully comeback better than ever and like a true champion regain his title and defend it successfully for a few more years until a new young warrior comes along to take it from him just like Hatton with Tszyu.

Your right Frazier is certainly no quitter. Actually if it wasn't for the great Angelo Dundee Ali would have lost that fight because he wanted to pull out but Dundee saw that Futch was pulling Joe out and therefore Ali won it. The greatest HW fight in history for me! I know that they were both a lot more technically gifted in the others but Gatti wasn't as technically gifted as PBF but he was in much better fights if you know where I'm coming from?

[purtyboy]

Kostya Tszyu quit on his stool, does this mean he was not a warrior?

Can you name any other great fighters who quit?

Roberto Duran

" NO MAS"

.... Ok add Morales to the list he did not want to get up 3rd fight with Pacman. However I do not consider any of the mention fighters cowards or less warriors. Infact I praise them for knowing when they are beat. It's a dangerous sport and we have all seen what happends when a fighter takes to much damage, so we are in no position to say when they should stop fighting or keep getting their brain smashed in. Big ups to the fighers that don't know what quitting is too. The ref should protect them and stop the fight but I admired their heart for wanting to continue fighting for example Arce, Corrales.