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    Default Re: Ricardo Mayorga

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Antonio Margarito really beat Daniel Santos, but Santos got a gift decision. Plus the fight was at 154 and Santos was 170 pounds on fight night which was 10 pounds heavier than Margarito. And Antonio Margarito's other losses was when he was a teenager fighting grown men, the only real loss i consider on Margarito's resume is the Williams loss.
    Ok, Santos really wan

    So what if Santos weighed more on fight night, he weighed the same at the weigh in and thats all that matters, what your saying is Santos had more to sacrifice to make weight, thats why Margarito went down a weight and then he was in the same position as Santos over little Cotto.

    Even if you only consider Margaritos real loss Williams, well Williams managed to lose to a fighter that Cotto had already beat (regardless of the rematch, he lost.)

    Mosley couldnt do anything with Cotto and this is his claim to fame

    Mick, why wouldnt I credit Mosley with a win if I think Mayorga is going to?


    I'm done responding to this idiocy.

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    Default Re: Ricardo Mayorga

    Good, Margarito and Cotto, both got found out at the highest level.

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    Mayorga is very entertaining & has power to boot but Mosley's got a great chin! Even at this stage of his career Mosley has the tools to defeat Mayorga. Mayoga is to raw, he'll have his moments but overall I think Mosley controls the majority of the fight.
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    Default Re: Ricardo Mayorga

    I'll have to trust on the sweet punching Mosley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Good, Margarito and Cotto, both got found out at the highest level.
    What in sweet tarnation are you on about in this thread? They ARE the top level. You seem to have some SERIOUS trouble with the whole styles make fights concept

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    I feel Ricardo Mayorga is being over looked big time against Mosley, people are discounting his chances because of his defeats to Trinidad and De La Hoya but im not sure he trained properly for either of those, taking them as paydays as he got tired very quick in each.

    This may be the fight that Mosley finds out hes too old to fight hard, which Mayorga will make him do for the early rounds at the very least and with Mayorgas style and power I see him dragging mosley in to a brawl and catching him and although Mosley got the better result against Vargas, Mayorga fought hard the entire 10 rounds carrying an extra 10 lbs.

    Mosley is gettting too much credit for pushing Cotto to a close decision but when you see what a limited Margarito did to him it puts it in perspective.

    Heres a fun video of Mayorga dishing it out

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU8I-ZppiaU


    In a recent interview with Mosely he said about Mayorga,

    “Oscar told me that he is very heavy handed,” Mosley stated.

    Heres an exerpt from an artical ive found on the fight,

    A trainer I have talked to that used to train the slugger told me that despite Mayorga’s technical deficiencies he had the heaviest hands he had ever felt on the punch mitts, heavyweights included.

    Ricardo Mayorga vs Shane Mosley - A Closer Look


    At their espective bests, Ricardo could take Forrests power but Mosely couldnt.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li0mJYvrYTU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-BFS...eature=related

    Win or lose here for Mayorga im still really looking forward to this fight, im hoping Ricardo has been putting the hard training in and puts ona good showing, id love to see him fight for a title again, he is the most entertaining fighter around, still, you certainly get your moneys worth watching him fight, even if he loses he still puts up a fight every time

    I still seeing him having to much fight for Shane at this point, hes not gonna give Shane the breathing space to set himself up, Shane hasnt had to deal with Mayorgas intesity for a long while and I think gets shocked early
    Hell yes! Mayorga is a live underdog. He's got power, heart, and in his last match showed improved boxing skills, stamina, and HUNGER.
    He can hurt Mosley and outwork him.

    GO MAYORGA!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    I feel Ricardo Mayorga is being over looked big time against Mosley, people are discounting his chances because of his defeats to Trinidad and De La Hoya but im not sure he trained properly for either of those, taking them as paydays as he got tired very quick in each.

    This may be the fight that Mosley finds out hes too old to fight hard, which Mayorga will make him do for the early rounds at the very least and with Mayorgas style and power I see him dragging mosley in to a brawl and catching him and although Mosley got the better result against Vargas, Mayorga fought hard the entire 10 rounds carrying an extra 10 lbs.

    Mosley is gettting too much credit for pushing Cotto to a close decision but when you see what a limited Margarito did to him it puts it in perspective.

    Heres a fun video of Mayorga dishing it out

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU8I-ZppiaU


    In a recent interview with Mosely he said about Mayorga,

    “Oscar told me that he is very heavy handed,” Mosley stated.

    Heres an exerpt from an artical ive found on the fight,

    A trainer I have talked to that used to train the slugger told me that despite Mayorga’s technical deficiencies he had the heaviest hands he had ever felt on the punch mitts, heavyweights included.

    Ricardo Mayorga vs Shane Mosley - A Closer Look


    At their espective bests, Ricardo could take Forrests power but Mosely couldnt.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li0mJYvrYTU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-BFS...eature=related

    Win or lose here for Mayorga im still really looking forward to this fight, im hoping Ricardo has been putting the hard training in and puts ona good showing, id love to see him fight for a title again, he is the most entertaining fighter around, still, you certainly get your moneys worth watching him fight, even if he loses he still puts up a fight every time

    I still seeing him having to much fight for Shane at this point, hes not gonna give Shane the breathing space to set himself up, Shane hasnt had to deal with Mayorgas intesity for a long while and I think gets shocked early
    Hell yes! Mayorga is a live underdog. He's got power, heart, and in his last match showed improved boxing skills, stamina, and HUNGER.
    He can hurt Mosley and outwork him.

    GO MAYORGA!
    Indeed, Go Mayorga.

    Mosley has all the skills and no doubt Mayorga is the underdog. But you can never say never.

    I hope he manages to surprise everyone.

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    Default Re: Ricardo Mayorga

    Mayorga looks as though he has had a decent camp if the lack of fat on his face is anything to go by

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Antonio Margarito really beat Daniel Santos, but Santos got a gift decision. Plus the fight was at 154 and Santos was 170 pounds on fight night which was 10 pounds heavier than Margarito. And Antonio Margarito's other losses was when he was a teenager fighting grown men, the only real loss i consider on Margarito's resume is the Williams loss.
    Ok, Santos really wan

    So what if Santos weighed more on fight night, he weighed the same at the weigh in and thats all that matters, what your saying is Santos had more to sacrifice to make weight, thats why Margarito went down a weight and then he was in the same position as Santos over little Cotto.

    Even if you only consider Margaritos real loss Williams, well Williams managed to lose to a fighter that Cotto had already beat (regardless of the rematch, he lost.)

    Mosley couldnt do anything with Cotto and this is his claim to fame

    Mick, why wouldnt I credit Mosley with a win if I think Mayorga is going to?
    You haven't even seen Santos vs Margarito 2 so how can you comment on it ? its obvious the size had an impact on the fight. Margarito was getting stunned and hurt more often than he usely does, because of the weight difference.

    And the headbutt which badly cut Margarito changed the fight around aswell, but Margarito still deserved to win and if you score it RBR then its impossible to have Santos winning IMO.

    Have you ever heard of styles make fights ? Williams style was effective against Margarito, because he could outwork Margarito, use angles, and because Margarito come forward. Williams could not use those advantages against Quintana because Quintana was a mover and a Southpaw.

    But didn't Williams destroy Quintana in half a round in the rematch when he was motivated ? so i don't see your point. Mosley couldn't do anything with Cotto ? have you even watched the fight ? i had the fight a draw and Mosley come on really strong at the end, and looked the stronger fighter after 12 rounds. Because he was coming forward where as Cotto was cut and on the backfoot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    I feel Ricardo Mayorga is being over looked big time against Mosley, people are discounting his chances because of his defeats to Trinidad and De La Hoya but im not sure he trained properly for either of those, taking them as paydays as he got tired very quick in each.

    This may be the fight that Mosley finds out hes too old to fight hard, which Mayorga will make him do for the early rounds at the very least and with Mayorgas style and power I see him dragging mosley in to a brawl and catching him and although Mosley got the better result against Vargas, Mayorga fought hard the entire 10 rounds carrying an extra 10 lbs.

    Mosley is gettting too much credit for pushing Cotto to a close decision but when you see what a limited Margarito did to him it puts it in perspective.

    Heres a fun video of Mayorga dishing it out

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU8I-ZppiaU


    In a recent interview with Mosely he said about Mayorga,

    “Oscar told me that he is very heavy handed,” Mosley stated.

    Heres an exerpt from an artical ive found on the fight,

    A trainer I have talked to that used to train the slugger told me that despite Mayorga’s technical deficiencies he had the heaviest hands he had ever felt on the punch mitts, heavyweights included.

    Ricardo Mayorga vs Shane Mosley - A Closer Look


    At their espective bests, Ricardo could take Forrests power but Mosely couldnt.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li0mJYvrYTU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-BFS...eature=related

    Win or lose here for Mayorga im still really looking forward to this fight, im hoping Ricardo has been putting the hard training in and puts ona good showing, id love to see him fight for a title again, he is the most entertaining fighter around, still, you certainly get your moneys worth watching him fight, even if he loses he still puts up a fight every time

    I still seeing him having to much fight for Shane at this point, hes not gonna give Shane the breathing space to set himself up, Shane hasnt had to deal with Mayorgas intesity for a long while and I think gets shocked early
    I don't know where to even begin to the biased post first off how the hell can you say, Mayorga never trained for the biggest fights of his life against ODLH, Trinidad ? is it maybe because he got battered to a pulp in both fights ?

    Mosley certainly didn't look like an old fighter against Collazo, Cotto, i thought he performed much better than Mayorga did against a shot Vargas.

    See again you don't understand about Rock, Paper, Scissors, in boxing. Nate Campbell got beat twice by Robbie Peden, does that mean Nate Campbell is a bad fighter ? no it just means styles make fights, even great fighters lost to lesser fighters or struggled much more than they should have.

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    Mayorga is one of my fav fighters... love the fact he will fight anyone and give it his all.

    saying all that Mosley wins via KO.

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    The amount of weight Mayorga has lost for this fight cant benefit him at all . He will be weak light Vargas was and I expect a similar spectacuar K.o delivered by Mosley in the middle rounds.

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    I dont think the weight will be as big a problem for Ricardo as it will for Shane.

    Ricardo, by his later standards, had good stamina at 164lbs and still had power up there, I think he had to put weigth on, or rather he felt he needed to so not to let Vargas have any advantge.

    Shane on the other hand, is 37 and a fighter who rellys on his speed, at this age and fighting heavier I think he'll be a touch slower, whereas Mayorgas speed and mobility will improve from the Vargas fight.

    If the fight had been at 147lb then the weight might have been a worry for Mayorga but I think its gonna slow Shane down more than itll weaken Mayorga.

    Shane is slowing anyway with age and getting caught alot more, with the extra weight, long lay off (Yeah Ricardo has had nearly as much time off but we all worry more about Shane getting caught here than Mayorga) and any lasting impression cottos punches had on him.

    I know Mayorga didnt train right for Oscar, which is why he got caught using diuretics but he still gav him a scrap till he gassed and hurt him, which is why Oscar has warned Shane of Mayorgas power.

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    Why would shane be worried about getting hit he has been down once in his career and he has faced good power fighters. Oscar De lay hoya could not even hurt him Oscar has alot power and was quick also. I dont get why you be worried about Mosley getting hit he has not been Koed like Mayorga and with him facing Forrest, Oscar and Vargas and only being knocked down once in all those fights i am not worried about his chin at all and getting hit.
    Last edited by Mr140; 09-23-2008 at 06:47 PM.

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    Mosley has never fought at 37 before, hes never fought anyone who hits as hard and starts as fast as Mayorga before, Shane starts slow, gets drawn in to a brawl and gets caught and overwhelmed

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