stacy please read

[SOB]

I have never thrown the 1st stone , I am sure when people
insult you or your family friends you just hold your head down
and either cry or keep walking, I am not that way ! I have never
thrown the 1st stone ! I did once because a guy that was giving kid
Thunder and I got banned ! I ask to be reinstated and promised
not to do it again and I have not ! But after a while I will throw
back but I was just assuming that's what you wanted , I only mention
that I promoted Herbi Hide , Jameel McCline , Oisin Fagan , Joe Messi
when some one says , I have only promoted Andrew Hartley oh wait
you said Shannon Briggs ! I am sure you haters have all did something
of the same caliber , like watched them all on T.V. ,,,right ?
But you know what? I never get on the SADO main topics about boxing,
Sure I think my fighters are just as important like Oisin Fagan and
Delray Raines, But some of you don't !So I come to the other one ,
Now I know you are just being friendly with the F**K YOU Stacy Goodson
topics ! But you know I never started one bad thread its not my nature !

oh, okay.. makes sense now.. thanks..

making a "bad thread" is not your nature.. but making fun of kid thunder, calling him slow, etc.. that's your nature.. (but of course he's just as important as Oisin Fagan and Delray Raines!)

you're a class act man.. don't let anyone tell you different!


You remind me of a man called Julius Raines..

You call everyone haters thinking that they're hating on what you do for a living (although Raines deal was a bit different), and trying to bring you down or something..

you have it all wrong, we just hate your outlook on all of it.. I've never seen anyone call themselves professional and act as ill-educated, self-centered, or misled as you..

If a promoter came in here with positive words, encouraging without discouraging, then you'd have some respect.. Don't play the "i never throw the first stone" bullshit..

There is a reason why everyone has posted negative words about you, and it's not cause they're jealous you promoted Shannon Briggs.. Wake UP!!

I am awake son ! I came here to defend Andrew you jack ,
Thats why I got , So you wake up !

[SOB]

SOB just STFU u just have loser as fighters that arent even professional and will never be from wat i fukin saw i mean come the fuk on where the fuk are they fighting at HIGH SCHOOL GYMs so just leave and and go hand ur low down ass fighter their fukin MONEY ORDER u queer

Sorry , I am not a queer I Like Little Asian chicks to much ! And we
live in the community were there are High School gyms and people
pay to watch locals fighters,Just like when truckers Pay your to service there
tools , You do it in the back of there cab you don't rent the Omni Hotel
do ya ! I can see you know nothing about boxing all you know is what you see on T.V. maybe you should keep tune in to the all male on make XXX channel !

Sick O LOL

U stupid i know more about boxing than u dumbass. all u talk about is your trailer park fighters u dont have any fukin knowledge on the real professional boxers u kno the ones that have belts. your fighters probably have the fukin fake ass WWE belts they sell at walmart u FUKTARD. GTFOH loser, and that was a stupid post talkin about tiny asian girls WTF? its clearly u have brain damage.

Dude I don't care how good you are at given head ! I am strait let it go
man !

[CountryBoy]

Lol, SOB you will be fighting these guys to the end of time...Just let it go...lol

[SOB]

Kylah Kim

now we talkin

[SOB]

Lol, SOB you will be fighting these guys to the end of time...Just let it go...lol

I usually come to hater forms to get objectives for Politics that are killing
boxing ! I don't get allot of that here ! Its kind of fun listening to em
though! But it don't bother me none ! But I like it how they always
wann talk like I am starting up trouble but not one post were
I started crap with anybody !

[kingfrnk]

Sorry , I am not a queer I Like Little Asian chicks to much ! And we
live in the community were there are High School gyms and people
pay to watch locals fighters,Just like when truckers Pay your to service there
tools , You do it in the back of there cab you don't rent the Omni Hotel
do ya ! I can see you know nothing about boxing all you know is what you see on T.V. maybe you should keep tune in to the all male on make XXX channel !

Sick O LOL

U stupid i know more about boxing than u dumbass. all u talk about is your trailer park fighters u dont have any fukin knowledge on the real professional boxers u kno the ones that have belts. your fighters probably have the fukin fake ass WWE belts they sell at walmart u FUKTARD. GTFOH loser, and that was a stupid post talkin about tiny asian girls WTF? its clearly u have brain damage.

Dude I don't care how good you are at given head ! I am strait let it go
man !

wat does givin head have to do with my post? i think ur just mad cause u touched a nerve in ur small ass brain.

[Trainer Monkey]

If JT still wants to do it,sure Ill train him.
Key phrase is if he still wants to do it,we'll see what he wants to do when he gets back online. He'd be the boxer so its his call.

[RP33]

If JT still wants to do it,sure Ill train him.
Key phrase is if he still wants to do it,we'll see what he wants to do when he gets back online. He'd be the boxer so its his call.

i'm not going to speak for him, but i wouldn't fight a pro that had that many fights.. there is still a learning curve in boxing, regardless of how natural it is to fight, and to step in with someone of that experience is just silly..

i want to fight one of these hillbilly characters who talk shit all day.. make youtube videos thinking they're real talented and stuff.. if i were to fight a legit pro, then it wouldn't be til after training for at least a year or two, and still i'd have a lot to think about.. these hillbilly guys, go in there and wave their hands, gassed after a round, i just want to shut them up.. and i THINK that that was JT's intention.. but again, i'll let him say what he has to say..

[Trainer Monkey]

If JT still wants to do it,sure Ill train him.
Key phrase is if he still wants to do it,we'll see what he wants to do when he gets back online. He'd be the boxer so its his call.

i'm not going to speak for him, but i wouldn't fight a pro that had that many fights.. there is still a learning curve in boxing, regardless of how natural it is to fight, and to step in with someone of that experience is just silly..

i want to fight one of these hillbilly characters who talk shit all day.. make youtube videos thinking they're real talented and stuff.. if i were to fight a legit pro, then it wouldn't be til after training for at least a year or two, and still i'd have a lot to think about.. these hillbilly guys, go in there and wave their hands, gassed after a round, i just want to shut them up.. and i THINK that that was JT's intention.. but again, i'll let him say what he has to say..

JT sounded pretty confident,and if I really thought it wasnt close I wouldnt even train him for it. I think he can do it, its a matter of,does he still want to.
If he wants not to do it,thats cool with me to, its his call,he's the one in the ring

[Andre]

If JT still wants to do it,sure Ill train him.
Key phrase is if he still wants to do it,we'll see what he wants to do when he gets back online. He'd be the boxer so its his call.

i'm not going to speak for him, but i wouldn't fight a pro that had that many fights.. there is still a learning curve in boxing, regardless of how natural it is to fight, and to step in with someone of that experience is just silly..

i want to fight one of these hillbilly characters who talk shit all day.. make youtube videos thinking they're real talented and stuff.. if i were to fight a legit pro, then it wouldn't be til after training for at least a year or two, and still i'd have a lot to think about.. these hillbilly guys, go in there and wave their hands, gassed after a round, i just want to shut them up.. and i THINK that that was JT's intention.. but again, i'll let him say what he has to say..

JT sounded pretty confident,and if I really thought it wasnt close I wouldnt even train him for it. I think he can do it, its a matter of,does he still want to.
If he wants not to do it,thats cool with me to, its his call,he's the one in the ring

You thinking of training him up to fight someone in particular Tm?

I have missed allot in here lately I seriously dont know the story; usually I dont read these posts but got directed here.

To be honest I feel embarressed for the name of Saddos by most of the posts made by these fellows from around the tail end of the sport and wish they were all back over at East side instead of here yelling at each other for no other reason than to expose their ego and the power it has over them all.

[Youngblood]

Take it back to the toughman contests where it belongs, I suggest. All of it.

There is a reason boxers aren't allowed to fight in the fooking things, and I tend to think the reasons should go the other way also.

Why don't you see a pro boxer fighting in a toughman contest? Because someone is going to get seriously hurt. If you're a betting person, who you gonna put money on? A pro boxer with a legitmate, substaniated record, or the guy who has 12 beer with his friends and on a lark and a laugh decides he is gonna join in to fight on some Saturday night and test his mettle? This fooker is gonna get his head taken off if he runs into a seriously trained professional. The rules are there for a reason.

It pisses me off to no end that people want to skip the process of forming legimate professional boxers and fast tracking ill-equipped, inexperienced fighters to walk into the realm. Moreso though, I fear the potential ramifications of it. There may be some very rare and gifted person who can make it, but I suggest it would be at the expense of many wannabes brains splattered across the canvas in the process.

As much that it pisses me off and worries me seeing what Stacy does, has done, it also pisses me off when I read a training section post with someone like Yusaf Mack giving his time and telling us where he is at in training...and having to read a follow up post suggesting we go check out Hartley and Dumas. Are you Fucking kidding me? Why in the world would I go see anything Hartley or Dumas related to understand what a pro goes through? If I want to see someone gas after 1 round and fight like shit, I can see that at my club just about every day, and usually more entertaining from guys that smoke a pack a day now, who atleast were once boxers, and now get into the ring and spar for fun and somehow still manage to last more then a round. These guys I know, I like them, some are my friends...but they sure as shit are not a measure of professional boxing.

And this isn't a slight against Andrew. I don't mind the guy. I even on some level like his spirit and stubbornness. But he is hardly a measure for anything professional boxing. Other then to point at and laugh. And he does have his place. He's the guy you put your potential up and comer against to assure an early career guaranteed win. But his safety needs to be considered also. How many times knocked out before his eyes close permanantly? "Well let us bring in people with zero experience and training to fight him." is not the answer. it is a disaster waiting to happen for someone.

And I'm just tired of it. Others are too I believe. I hope this has run its course and people are finally ready to move on. For let's face it, and be honest, only reason people watch this stuff is to laugh at. And I feel a bit bad watching those who get sucked into it trying to defend themselves who don't realize this. Even when Stacy says "it's for fun"...it is fairly obvious to see what he really means is...'it's for a laugh'.

"haha", thanks for the laugh. "haha", I like to sometimes watch midget muay thai too. But c'mon, let us not try to pretend it is something more then it is.

Please quit looking for an easy way into the limelight of a sport that requires much dedication, skill and will. Pay your dues like the rest of us, and make it on your hard work and merit. It hurts the sport, and this sport needs help...not hindrances. Not mockery. Earn your way. You cheat your way there, you cheat yourself and the very sport you are trying to represent.

[CFH]

Take it back to the toughman contests where it belongs, I suggest. All of it.

There is a reason boxers aren't allowed to fight in the fooking things, and I tend to think the reasons should go the other way also.

Why don't you see a pro boxer fighting in a toughman contest? Because someone is going to get seriously hurt. If you're a betting person, who you gonna put money on? A pro boxer with a legitmate, substaniated record, or the guy who has 12 beer with his friends and on a lark and a laugh decides he is gonna join in to fight on some Saturday night and test his mettle? This fooker is gonna get his head taken off if he runs into a seriously trained professional. The rules are there for a reason.

It pisses me off to no end that people want to skip the process of forming legimate professional boxers and fast tracking ill-equipped, inexperienced fighters to walk into the realm. Moreso though, I fear the potential ramifications of it. There may be some very rare and gifted person who can make it, but I suggest it would be at the expense of many wannabes brains splattered across the canvas in the process.

As much that it pisses me off and worries me seeing what Stacy does, has done, it also pisses me off when I read a training section post with someone like Yusaf Mack giving his time and telling us where he is at in training...and having to read a follow up post suggesting we go check out Hartley and Dumas. Are you Fucking kidding me? Why in the world would I go see anything Hartley or Dumas related to understand what a pro goes through? If I want to see someone gas after 1 round and fight like shit, I can see that at my club just about every day, and usually more entertaining from guys that smoke a pack a day now, who atleast were once boxers, and now get into the ring and spar for fun and somehow still manage to last more then a round. These guys I know, I like them, some are my friends...but they sure as shit are not a measure of professional boxing.

And this isn't a slight against Andrew. I don't mind the guy. I even on some level like his spirit and stubbornness. But he is hardly a measure for anything professional boxing. Other then to point at and laugh. And he does have his place. He's the guy you put your potential up and comer against to assure an early career guaranteed win. But his safety needs to be considered also. How many times knocked out before his eyes close permanantly? "Well let us bring in people with zero experience and training to fight him." is not the answer. it is a disaster waiting to happen for someone.

And I'm just tired of it. Others are too I believe. I hope this has run its course and people are finally ready to move on. For let's face it, and be honest, only reason people watch this stuff is to laugh at. And I feel a bit bad watching those who get sucked into it trying to defend themselves who don't realize this. Even when Stacy says "it's for fun"...it is fairly obvious to see what he really means is...'it's for a laugh'.

"haha", thanks for the laugh. "haha", I like to sometimes watch midget muay thai too. But c'mon, let us not try to pretend it is something more then it is.

Please quit looking for an easy way into the limelight of a sport that requires much dedication, skill and will. Pay your dues like the rest of us, and make it on your hard work and merit. It hurts the sport, and this sport needs help...not hindrances. Not mockery. Earn your way. You cheat your way there, you cheat yourself and the very sport you are trying to represent.

I'm with ya Youngblood. This is the only post I will make in regards to this situation because I will have no part in furthering it.

This whole thing is nothing but a farce of self-righteousness and self-promotion, by all parties involved. A fucking joke is what it is, a fucking joke perpetuated by persons who are involved in it for reasons which defy all logic. It makes this whole forum less by its very presence, but more importantly it makes a mockery of the sport itself, and that should be unacceptable for those who claim to be involved in it in a serious way.

I'm starting to wonder if everyone involved is in cooperation with one another to keep this idiocy going for the sake of their own self-promotion.

Take your viral marketing and shove it up your ass.

[Trainer Monkey]

i'm not going to speak for him, but i wouldn't fight a pro that had that many fights.. there is still a learning curve in boxing, regardless of how natural it is to fight, and to step in with someone of that experience is just silly..

i want to fight one of these hillbilly characters who talk shit all day.. make youtube videos thinking they're real talented and stuff.. if i were to fight a legit pro, then it wouldn't be til after training for at least a year or two, and still i'd have a lot to think about.. these hillbilly guys, go in there and wave their hands, gassed after a round, i just want to shut them up.. and i THINK that that was JT's intention.. but again, i'll let him say what he has to say..

JT sounded pretty confident,and if I really thought it wasnt close I wouldnt even train him for it. I think he can do it, its a matter of,does he still want to.
If he wants not to do it,thats cool with me to, its his call,he's the one in the ring

You thinking of training him up to fight someone in particular Tm?

I have missed allot in here lately I seriously dont know the story; usually I dont read these posts but got directed here.

To be honest I feel embarressed for the name of Saddos by most of the posts made by these fellows from around the tail end of the sport and wish they were all back over at East side instead of here yelling at each other for no other reason than to expose their ego and the power it has over them all.

you should see BoxRec's forum these days.
But yeah Stacy named a name he'd put him in with,and if JT wants to do it,its not a bad name to debut against.
If JT changes his mind,no harm no foul though

[Trainer Monkey]

Take it back to the toughman contests where it belongs, I suggest. All of it.

There is a reason boxers aren't allowed to fight in the fooking things, and I tend to think the reasons should go the other way also.

Why don't you see a pro boxer fighting in a toughman contest? Because someone is going to get seriously hurt. If you're a betting person, who you gonna put money on? A pro boxer with a legitmate, substaniated record, or the guy who has 12 beer with his friends and on a lark and a laugh decides he is gonna join in to fight on some Saturday night and test his mettle? This fooker is gonna get his head taken off if he runs into a seriously trained professional. The rules are there for a reason.

It pisses me off to no end that people want to skip the process of forming legimate professional boxers and fast tracking ill-equipped, inexperienced fighters to walk into the realm. Moreso though, I fear the potential ramifications of it. There may be some very rare and gifted person who can make it, but I suggest it would be at the expense of many wannabes brains splattered across the canvas in the process.

As much that it pisses me off and worries me seeing what Stacy does, has done, it also pisses me off when I read a training section post with someone like Yusaf Mack giving his time and telling us where he is at in training...and having to read a follow up post suggesting we go check out Hartley and Dumas. Are you Fucking kidding me? Why in the world would I go see anything Hartley or Dumas related to understand what a pro goes through? If I want to see someone gas after 1 round and fight like shit, I can see that at my club just about every day, and usually more entertaining from guys that smoke a pack a day now, who atleast were once boxers, and now get into the ring and spar for fun and somehow still manage to last more then a round. These guys I know, I like them, some are my friends...but they sure as shit are not a measure of professional boxing.

And this isn't a slight against Andrew. I don't mind the guy. I even on some level like his spirit and stubbornness. But he is hardly a measure for anything professional boxing. Other then to point at and laugh. And he does have his place. He's the guy you put your potential up and comer against to assure an early career guaranteed win. But his safety needs to be considered also. How many times knocked out before his eyes close permanantly? "Well let us bring in people with zero experience and training to fight him." is not the answer. it is a disaster waiting to happen for someone.

And I'm just tired of it. Others are too I believe. I hope this has run its course and people are finally ready to move on. For let's face it, and be honest, only reason people watch this stuff is to laugh at. And I feel a bit bad watching those who get sucked into it trying to defend themselves who don't realize this. Even when Stacy says "it's for fun"...it is fairly obvious to see what he really means is...'it's for a laugh'.

"haha", thanks for the laugh. "haha", I like to sometimes watch midget muay thai too. But c'mon, let us not try to pretend it is something more then it is.

Please quit looking for an easy way into the limelight of a sport that requires much dedication, skill and will. Pay your dues like the rest of us, and make it on your hard work and merit. It hurts the sport, and this sport needs help...not hindrances. Not mockery. Earn your way. You cheat your way there, you cheat yourself and the very sport you are trying to represent.

Actually not all Toughmans are like that,in some states they replace an amateur scene.In very rural states there just isnt much of an amateur scene,and what ammie scene there is,is focused around one city. So kids fight the Toughman circuit instead. WV is like that, most people invovled at all in WV boxing, which is growing pretty rapidly, couldnt pick out any of the ammie champs in a lineup, but they all know who won the Toughmans. If you want to fight ammie,youve got to drive all the way to Charleston to even get a fight. But a Toughman series will probably be arriving an hour from your house.
Now Rough N Rowdy's down here are absolute chaos. I dont know, I dont go to them. Even though I had a hand in traing a Rough N Rowdy champ, I also have a kid,and the phrase "not a family friendly enviroment" from what Ive heard,would be an understatement.

[Trainer Monkey]

If JT still wants to do it,sure Ill train him.
Key phrase is if he still wants to do it,we'll see what he wants to do when he gets back online. He'd be the boxer so its his call.

i'm not going to speak for him, but i wouldn't fight a pro that had that many fights.. there is still a learning curve in boxing, regardless of how natural it is to fight, and to step in with someone of that experience is just silly..

i want to fight one of these hillbilly characters who talk shit all day.. make youtube videos thinking they're real talented and stuff.. if i were to fight a legit pro, then it wouldn't be til after training for at least a year or two, and still i'd have a lot to think about.. these hillbilly guys, go in there and wave their hands, gassed after a round, i just want to shut them up.. and i THINK that that was JT's intention.. but again, i'll let him say what he has to say..

JT has a pretty good MMA backround, and what Stacy offered up isnt exactly a world beater. Its still JT's call though. If he feels maybe his fingers got away from his brains as it were, hey no harm no foul. Im just saying,if he wants to do it up,Ill help him try to get to his optimum as a freebie.