<b><font color="#800000"><b><font color="#800000">~ RJJ vs. Calzaghe ~ Let's talk! vi

[Irish Rover]

Max mentions Dawson to Joe. I think Joe beats dawson handily. Joe has nothing to prove at all.

What a stupid suggestion that was.


Why would JC fight Chad Dawson?

For that matter why would he fight Hopkins, RJJ or Pavlik now either?


Absolutely nothing to gain and everything to lose. I think Joe would be very very stupid or very very bored not to retire now. Nothing left for him to do.

[CutMeMick]

1st and foremost I gotta applaud both guys for coming to fight and putting on a good show.


Now as some of you may know I'm not the biggest RJJ fan nore the biggest Joe fan.
But one thing I realized tonight was that in his prime RJJ would have schooled Joe.
And you can't convince me otherwise.

[Spicoli]

Calzaghe calls Max Kellerman wasted talent

Seriously? I missed that part, the irony of that statement is staggering.

...Kellerman proposes a match with Dawson....Joe laughs him off "Your a wasted talent man,should have been a promoter" in context

That was a bit difficult down the stretch,Jones was basically playing hopeful slugger and all busted up.Sad thing is,Jones interview gave me no indication that he will hang them up

[Andre]

Thanks gents. Mirrored Roys own exploits then, to steal more than just the fight off him.

Poonce

[purtyboy]

So Calzaghe won the fight fair and i'll give him props for that. However this to me atleast, leaves little doubt that Roy would make short work of him in his prime. If this Roy knocked him down and hurt him, I can't begin to imagine what Superman Roy would of done. I still feel Bernard beat Joe, and would beat him again. I have no doubt in my mind that Chad Dawson KOs Joe after seeing B-Hop (past prime, and who is not a puncher) and Roy knock him down. Just had to express my toughts because the whole HBO crew was hugging his nuts a whole lot.

[Andre]

1st and foremost I gotta applaud both guys for coming to fight and putting on a good show.


Now as some of you may know I'm not the biggest RJJ fan nore the biggest Joe fan.
But one thing I realized tonight was that in his prime RJJ would have schooled Joe.
And you can't convince me otherwise.

I do agree fully; but for tonight; they are only what 3 years apart in age? so to me thats not an old man fighting a prime lad.

[kingfrnk]

joe won like he was suppose to do, but still went down and even got hurt. so yea a prime roy would kill him but i just hope joe retires cause he still CRAP to me.

[Youngblood]

Calzaghe calls Max Kellerman wasted talent

Seriously? I missed that part, the irony of that statement is staggering.

...Kellerman proposes a match with Dawson....Joe laughs him off "Your a wasted talent man,should have been a promoter" in context

That was a bit difficult down the stretch,Jones was basically playing hopeful slugger and all busted up.Sad thing is,Jones interview gave me no indication that he will hang them up

He really has no reason the hang them up...other then to finish with the "0". And that would be understandable. Legacy and all. If he is a warrior, and I suggest he is...then his pride will not allow him to. He still has game.

* oops, Joe I meant.

[CFH]

1st and foremost I gotta applaud both guys for coming to fight and putting on a good show.


Now as some of you may know I'm not the biggest RJJ fan nore the biggest Joe fan.
But one thing I realized tonight was that in his prime RJJ would have schooled Joe.
And you can't convince me otherwise.

That's exactly how I feel. JC is obviously a great fighter (though this fight didn't mean much), but prime Jones was in another league entirely.

[XaduBoxer]

Recap:

ROUND 1
Calzaghe lands a quick jab to the body. Jones backs up to the ropes and smiles. They trade jabs. Lead straight right lands for Jones. Calzaghe unloads a flurry against the ropes but doesn't land anything significant. Right hand lands for Jones and he smiles. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....BIG right hand lands for Jones and Calzaghe is down. WOW! He's up and takes the count. Calzaghe looks shaky. Another right hand lands for Jones. Calzaghe flurries back. Right hand lands for Jones. End of round. Round to Jones.

Jones 10 Calzaghe 8

ROUND 2
Calzaghe comes out and backs Jones up to the ropes. Jones circles away. Calzaghe lands some rabbit punches in the clinch. Jab lands for Calzaghe. Uppercut lands for Jones. Left hook lands for Jones. Jones showboating a little. Right hand lands for Jones. HARD right to the body lands for Jones. Calzaghe lands a jab. Right hand to the body lands for Calzaghe against the ropes. Another. Lead straight right lands for Jones. 1-2 to the body lands for Calzaghe. HARD right hand from Jones snaps the head back of Calzaghe and he sticks his tongue out at the crowd and smiles. Right to the body lands for Jones. Calzaghe backs him up to the ropes and throws a flurry to the body, but all of it is blocked. Round to Jones.

Jones 20 calzaghe 17

ROUND 3
Jab lands for Calzaghe. Calzaghe walking in with his hands down. Nice body shot and a left hand upstairs lands for Calzaghe. Jones lands a right to the body. Roy with his hands down now. Hard body shot lands for Jones. Nice left hand lands for Calzaghe. Another. Calzaghe digs a right to the body and showboats. 1-2 to the body lands for Jones. Both men taunting each other with their hands down. Uppercut lands for Jones. Right to the body lands for Calzaghe. Another. Calzaghe talking smack to Jones as he puts his head down and invites Jones to hit him. Uppercut lands for Jones. Another. They trade hooks. 1-2 to the body lands for Calzaghe. 1-2 upstairs lands for Calzaghe and both men showboating. Calzaghe does a dance in front of Jones to end the round. Round to Calzaghe.

Jones 29 Calzaghe 27

ROUND 4
Jones lands a jab. Calzaghe answers with one of his own. Calzaghe misses with a wild left. Quick four-punch combo to the body lands for Calzaghe. Jab lands for Calzaghe. Right hand lands for Jones. Calzaghe lands a right upstairs. Calzaghe showing no respect at all for Jones as he continues to walk in with his hands down and showboat. Right hand lands for Calzaghe. Right to the body lands for Calzaghe. Left hand upstairs lands for Calzaghe. 1-2 lands for Jones. Wow. Calzaghe looking really good in there. Hard right and a 1-2 lands for Jones and Calzaghe just eats it like it was nothing. Round to Calzaghe.

Jones 38 Calzaghe 37

ROUND 5
Calzaghe continues to stalk Jones and back him up to the corner. Right hand lands for Calzaghe. Right to the body lands for Calzaghe. Straight left lands for Calzaghe. Jones lands a right. HARD right to the body lands for Calzaghe. Jones lands a right to the body. Lead straight right lands for Jones. Another. Another. Quicky flurry to the body lands for Calzaghe. Right hand lands again for JOnes. Uppercut lands for Calzaghe. Right hand from Calzaghe snaps the head back of Jones. BIG left and a right lands for Calzaghe against the ropes. Uppercut lands for Jones. They trade right hands. Calzaghe lands a flurry to the body. Both men trade big counter shots at the end. Round to Calzaghe, who's outworking Jones and landing some hard shots in there.

Jones 47 Calzaghe 47

ROUND 6
The eye of Jones starting to swell. Calzaghe lands some hard left hooks upstairs and Jones complains to the ref about it. Jab lands for Calzaghe. Another. 1-2 to the body lands for Calzaghe. Right hand lands for Jones. Calzaghe lands a right. 1-2 lands for Calzaghe upstairs. Calzaghe continues to stand in front of Jones with his hands down. Right hook lands for Calzaghe. Lead right lands for Jones. Jab lands for Jones. Wooooo...nice uppercut lands for Jones, but Calzaghe flurries on him against the ropes to take the round.

Jones 56 Calzaghe 57

ROUND 7
1-2 lands for Jones. Calzaghe lands a jab to the body. 1-2 lands for Jones. Right hand lands for Jones. Left hook lands for Jones. Left hand down the middle lands for Calzaghe. Right hand lands for Calzaghe. Left hand lands for Jones followed by a right. Hard left hand down the middle lands for Calzaghe and Jones retreats. Counter left hook lands for Jones. Another left lands for Calzaghe and he grins at Jones. Another left from Calzaghe blasts throught the guard of Jones who's bleeding from a cut now. right hand lands for Jones and Calzaghe showboats and taunts him. Six-punch combo lands for Calzaghe. Round to Calzaghe.

Jones 65 Calzaghe 67

ROUND 8
That is a nasty cut on Jones that his corner did not get under control. Calzaghe's found a home for that left hand down the middle. That could spell trouble for Jones. Right hand lands for Calzaghe. Right to the body lands for Jones. Calzaghe lands a left hook. Right hand lands for Calzaghe. Jones is taking some damage on that eye. Left and a right lands for Jones and Calzaghe eats it and snarls at him as he walks him down with his hands down. Wow. Right to the body lands for Jones. Right hand lands for Jones. Chopping right hook lands for Calzaghe against the ropes. Left hand down the middle alnds for Calzaghe. Jones lands an uppercut. Calzaghe just pushes him back to the corner and unloads a flurry. "I'm trying to get him, but I can't get him," stated Jones when got back to his corner. Round to Calzaghe.

Jones 74 Calzaghe 77

ROUND 9
Calzaghe manhandling Jones at this pioont. Jab lands for Calzaghe. Jones lands an uppercut. HARD left to the body lands for Calzaghe. Right hand down the pipe lands for Jones. Jones works the body in the clinch. They trade left hooks. Calzaghe lands a left hook. 1-2 lands for Calzaghe. Again. Jones just covers up. 1-2 to the body lands for Calzaghe. Right hand lands for Calzaghe as he taunts him by giving him his chin. right hand lands for Jones. Another, but Calzaghe looks to just by toying with him like a cat playing with a mouse. Wow. Round to Calzaghe.

Jones 83 Calzaghe 87

ROUND 10
Body shot lands for Calzaghe. Jones retreats to the ropes. Right to the body lands for Calzaghe again. Left hook lands for Jones. Uppercut lands for Jones. Left hook to the body lands for Jones. HARD right to the body lands for Calzaghe. Calzaghe still has his hands down and just stands in front of Jones taunting him. Left hook lands for Jones, who's face is a bloody mess. Body shots lands for Calzaghe. Left hand upstairs lands for Calzaghe. They trade body shots. A closer round, only because Calzaghe basically took it off, but still a round he won.

Jones 92 Calzaghe 97

ROUND 11
Right to the body lands for Calzaghe. Now Calzaghe has Jones flinching when he feints. Calzaghe dances in front of Jones in the corner. Two right hands land upstairs for Calzaghe. Jab lands for Calzaghe. Again. Left hand down the middle lands for Jones. Calzaghe digs two right hooks, downstairs and upstairs. 1-2 to the body lands for Calzaghe. Jones not throwing anything. Now he lands a right hand that snaps Calzaghe's head back and smiles, as if he's proud he just landed something. Calzaghe laughing at Jones in there. Round to Calzaghe.

Jones 101 Calzaghe 107

ROUND 12
Jab lands for Calzaghe. Jones trying to measure Calzaghe to land a hayemaker, but he's just not pulling the trigger. 1-2 to the body lands for Calzaghe. Again. Jones lands a short left hook. Calzaghe lands a left hook upstairs. Now Calzaghe shoeshines him against the ropes. Some boos from the crowd as they're waiting for Jones to do something. Right to the body lands for Jones. Right hook upstairs lands for Calzaghe. Round to Calzaghe.

Jones 110 Calzaghe 117

Harold Lederman scored the bout 117-110 for Calzaghe

Official judges scorecards...

118-109
118-109
118-109

[Irish Rover]

I still dont know how I feel about JC.


In the build up to his fights I usually get behind him but once the fight starts and I see the slapping (not to mention that carry on tonight) I find myself routing for him to be KO'd.

Bottom line is he is now Rocky Marciano. Dont care what you say in 50 years time all people will see is the 46-0 record with those two hall of famers at the end. I think he is a great fighter, I have a lot of respect for him and he deserves to be highly regarded.....but I dont feel he is deserving of the praise I am sure he will one day garner.

[XaduBoxer]

[Spicoli]

Was speaking of Jones Jr. Youngblood,he is finished.I have no doubt Calzaghe will fight again.

[Markusdarkus]

joe won like he was suppose to do, but still went down and even got hurt. so yea a prime roy would kill him but i just hope joe retires cause he still CRAP to me.

Honestly you are a total prick, Joe whooped that ass and it it wasnt for a forearm smash would have won every round.

Kinda like Hopkins did against Pavlik. (The Pavlik plod)

[Gandalf]

I dont think prime Jones Jr would make easy work of Joe at all. You put him down and he gets up, and he keeps you working all the time. That would be a handful for Jones Jr at any time. Not that Im saying Calzaghe would win, but you really cannot tell.

Calzaghe beats Dawson though and no way Hopkins beat Calzaghe. Silly talk.