Robin Reid vs Joe Calzaghe Who Won Come And Vote.

[Fenster]

I thought Calzaghe had the better of it early.. then Reid started landing the right hand.. then Calzaghe pulled it out down the stretch.

Is that ok?

Robin Reid also won his fair share in the later rounds, if i remember rightly Robin Reid clearly won the 10th, 11th, rounds. Most of Joe Calzaghe's punches were missing after the early rounds. And Robin Reid was rocking his head back with good accurate right hands.

Infact Joe Calzaghe was only landing mostly good body shots after the early rounds, Robin Reid was catching most of Joe Calzaghe's flurries on his gloves.

Yeah that was probably due to the BROKEN hand. Makes sense doesn't it.

I think Calzaghe won the 11th.

[BIG H]

Calzaghe lost this fight i think he should be 44-2 now i think he lost to Reid and Hopkins.

It also further proves my point that he did indeed lose this fight, because 3 Joe Calzaghe fans have posted in this thread. And not one of them has really gave any legit reasons why Joe Calzaghe deserved to win.

BIG H has this fight now im sure he won't disappoint me like the other Joe Calzaghe fans

Lol - I'm gonna watch it tomorrow and I'll post my card. When I watched the fight live I wanted Reid to win

[Fenster]

Calzaghe should have rematched Reid and Hopkins both fights were really close and could have gone either way a true champ likes to prove that they can do better like Floyd Mayweather did vs Castillio and Barrera vs Juarez.

I posted you the link to Reid turning it down about 2 weeks ago.

You Calzaghe haters are funny

[ICB]

I thought Calzaghe had the better of it early.. then Reid started landing the right hand.. then Calzaghe pulled it out down the stretch.

Is that ok?

Robin Reid also won his fair share in the later rounds, if i remember rightly Robin Reid clearly won the 10th, 11th, rounds. Most of Joe Calzaghe's punches were missing after the early rounds. And Robin Reid was rocking his head back with good accurate right hands.

Infact Joe Calzaghe was only landing mostly good body shots after the early rounds, Robin Reid was catching most of Joe Calzaghe's flurries on his gloves.

Yeah that was probably due to the BROKEN hand. Makes sense doesn't it.

I think Calzaghe won the 11th.

No actually it doesn't because when scoring a fight that has nothing to do with it. All that counts are the legit arguments why you think Joe Calzaghe won ?

I thought Robin Reid clearly won the 11th round although it was somewhat close. Glen McCrory had about 3 rounds even if i remember rightly

[ICB]

Calzaghe should have rematched Reid and Hopkins both fights were really close and could have gone either way a true champ likes to prove that they can do better like Floyd Mayweather did vs Castillio and Barrera vs Juarez.

I posted you the link to Reid turning it down about 2 weeks ago.

You Calzaghe haters are funny

Yes and im still waiting for the money Joe Calzaghe was supposedly getting ?

Because theres no way Robin Reid would turn a rematch down, unless the money difference was ridiculous and unfair.

Robin Reid isn't the kind of fighter to avoid fights, remember he did go to Germany and fight Sven "Gift Decisions" Ottke.

[Tysonbruno]

I would like to watch this fight again anybody got it?

[Fenster]

Robin Reid also won his fair share in the later rounds, if i remember rightly Robin Reid clearly won the 10th, 11th, rounds. Most of Joe Calzaghe's punches were missing after the early rounds. And Robin Reid was rocking his head back with good accurate right hands.

Infact Joe Calzaghe was only landing mostly good body shots after the early rounds, Robin Reid was catching most of Joe Calzaghe's flurries on his gloves.

Yeah that was probably due to the BROKEN hand. Makes sense doesn't it.

I think Calzaghe won the 11th.

No actually it doesn't because when scoring a fight that has nothing to do with it. All that counts are the legit arguments why you think Joe Calzaghe won ?

I thought Robin Reid clearly won the 11th round although it was somewhat close. Glen McCrory had about 3 rounds even if i remember rightly

You're allowed to score rounds even.

The BROKEN hand must have hindered his performance a little though, no?

Just shows how great Calzaghe is that he can BEAT a fighter like Reid with a BROKEN hand. Pure class.

[ICB]

Yeah that was probably due to the BROKEN hand. Makes sense doesn't it.

I think Calzaghe won the 11th.

No actually it doesn't because when scoring a fight that has nothing to do with it. All that counts are the legit arguments why you think Joe Calzaghe won ?

I thought Robin Reid clearly won the 11th round although it was somewhat close. Glen McCrory had about 3 rounds even if i remember rightly

You're allowed to score rounds even.

The BROKEN hand must have hindered his performance a little though, no?

Just shows how great Calzaghe is that he can BEAT a fighter like Reid with a BROKEN hand. Pure class.

There were no real rounds even in the fight, having 3 rounds even is ridiculous.

Yes having broken hand hindered his performance obviously, but that still doesn't have anything to do with why you thought Joe Calzaghe won

[Fenster]

Calzaghe should have rematched Reid and Hopkins both fights were really close and could have gone either way a true champ likes to prove that they can do better like Floyd Mayweather did vs Castillio and Barrera vs Juarez.

I posted you the link to Reid turning it down about 2 weeks ago.

You Calzaghe haters are funny

Yes and im still waiting for the money Joe Calzaghe was supposedly getting ?

Because theres no way Robin Reid would turn a rematch down, unless the money difference was ridiculous and unfair.

Robin Reid isn't the kind of fighter to avoid fights, remember he did go to Germany and fight Sven "Gift Decisions" Ottke.

You know for a fact Reid wouldn't turn it down? The words came from Robin Reids mouth. You think he was lying?

What's the rough amont per bout Reid has made throughout his career then?

[Fenster]

No actually it doesn't because when scoring a fight that has nothing to do with it. All that counts are the legit arguments why you think Joe Calzaghe won ?

I thought Robin Reid clearly won the 11th round although it was somewhat close. Glen McCrory had about 3 rounds even if i remember rightly

You're allowed to score rounds even.

The BROKEN hand must have hindered his performance a little though, no?

Just shows how great Calzaghe is that he can BEAT a fighter like Reid with a BROKEN hand. Pure class.

There were no real rounds even in the fight, having 3 rounds even is ridiculous.

Yes having broken hand hindered his performance obviously, but that still doesn't have anything to do with why you thought Joe Calzaghe won

Scoring is subjective. You can see a fight different sitting ringside compared with watching on the TV.

I told you why i thought Calzaghe won.

[ICB]

I posted you the link to Reid turning it down about 2 weeks ago.

You Calzaghe haters are funny

Yes and im still waiting for the money Joe Calzaghe was supposedly getting ?

Because theres no way Robin Reid would turn a rematch down, unless the money difference was ridiculous and unfair.

Robin Reid isn't the kind of fighter to avoid fights, remember he did go to Germany and fight Sven "Gift Decisions" Ottke.

You know for a fact Reid wouldn't turn it down? The words came from Robin Reids mouth. You think he was lying?

What's the rough amont per bout Reid has made throughout his career then?

Robin Reid fought all comers i didn't say it was a fact, but i would say theres no way he would turn a rematch down unless the money difference wasn't fair. Joe Calzaghe has been known to be hard to negotiate fights with, look how long it took to get fights with Jeff Lacy, Mikkel Kessler.

When a fighter goes to Germany knowing full well what he is in for, and fights there champ in there backyard. And also fights Jeff Lacy in his backyard, i can honestly say Robin Reid would no way duck any fights, especially a rematch with Joe Calzaghe.

[Bomp]

Calzaghe lost this fight i think he should be 44-2 now i think he lost to Reid and Hopkins.

It also further proves my point that he did indeed lose this fight, because 3 Joe Calzaghe fans have posted in this thread. And not one of them has really gave any legit reasons why Joe Calzaghe deserved to win.

BIG H has this fight now im sure he won't disappoint me like the other Joe Calzaghe fans

I'd like to see the whole fight again, but I remember thinking at the time it was very close with Joe winning the early rounds and Reid winning the late rounds.

Now, after seeing the last two rounds quite recently I thought Joe clearly won the 12th and had a strong argument in the 11th. Reid was throwing big rights in both these rounds and he lands one flush in the 11th, whether that's enough is up to the observer. Joe partially/fully blocked all the rights in the twelfth while landing shorter more subtle punches inside flush, and judging by the look on their faces I'd have to say Joe's punches were actually more effective.

I also find it rather curious that you seem to rely on compubox numbers to support your claim in this thread yet dismiss them as evidence in the Hopkins-Calzaghe thread.

[Tysonbruno]

The rematch would have been big perhaps close to Haye vs Mac £90,000 is not a lot of money they got themselves out of it by offering small money.

[ICB]

Calzaghe lost this fight i think he should be 44-2 now i think he lost to Reid and Hopkins.

It also further proves my point that he did indeed lose this fight, because 3 Joe Calzaghe fans have posted in this thread. And not one of them has really gave any legit reasons why Joe Calzaghe deserved to win.

BIG H has this fight now im sure he won't disappoint me like the other Joe Calzaghe fans

I'd like to see the whole fight again, but I remember thinking at the time it was very close with Joe winning the early rounds and Reid winning the late rounds.

Now, after seeing the last two rounds quite recently I thought Joe clearly won the 12th and had a strong argument in the 11th. Reid was throwing big rights in both these rounds and he lands one flush in the 11th, whether that's enough is up to the observer. Joe partially/fully blocked all the rights in the twelfth while landing shorter more subtle punches inside flush, and judging by the look on their faces I'd have to say Joe's punches were actually more effective.

I also find it rather curious that you seem to rely on compubox numbers to support your claim in this thread yet dismiss them as evidence in the Hopkins-Calzaghe thread.

Bomp you ask and you shall receive

By the way Bomp i said the Compubox means nothing read it again mate

[sonny78]

People keep starting threads about Joe Calzaghe vs Bernard Hopkins, but i thought Robin Reid vs Joe Calzaghe was even more controversial. I believe they were dead even according to the punchstats which means, nothing in alot of cases.

But i think Joe Calzaghe had the better of it early on, then Robin Reid took over by coming forward. And landing solid right hands that were rocking Joe Calzaghe's head back, and landing solid body shots.

Once Robin Reid found his range with that right hand it was all Robin Reid, and i thought he won by a few points. I haven't got an exact scorecard i may do one later, but does anyone else agree ?

JOE CALZAGHE HAS NEVER BEEN BEATEN

I know this is hard for a lot of people to to get but this is FACT!! you can go through almost every boxer in history and find a controversial result or a number of them somewhere along the line, in fact I bet you could do that with almost every sport

Its a waste of time this thread is called "Re: Robin Reid vs Joe Calzaghe Who Won Come And Vote."

Joe Won Fact!

So i guess Evander Holyfield deserved a draw against Lennox Lewis in there 1st fight, or Pernell Whitaker derserved to lose to Jose Luis Ramirez ? Please stop using the record books argument its a weak arguement, and it doesn't sound like you have any real argument. That can convince me Joe Calzaghe deserved the nod against Robin Reid.

Im not saying this fight is in the same league as those fights above regarding controversy.

But people still are allowed to debate who they thought. Should of won this is a boxing forum after all and controversial decisions are part and parcel of discussions here, it sounds like your Joe Calzaghe fan boy. That can't handle people discussing one of Joe Calzaghe's controversial fights.

If you don't want to debate on the fight or you have that logic, don't bother replying its as simple as that really.

Ok first off I am not some Joe Calzaghe Fan Boy

At the time of this fight I lived in Newcastle but was from Manchester I had met Robin Reid a few times an had followed him from the Olympics I wanted Robin to smash the shit out of the Welsh F***er

But he didn't

It was a close fight and while some people I was with thought Robin had it I saw Joe edge it I cant remember exact details of the fight but I remember

it could have gone either way but was not upset by the result

This was far from a robbery Robin was robbed against Sven Ottke but he lost to Joe

Sometimes we dont like the result but unless we want professional boxing scored the same way it is in the amateurs then there is always going to be some controversy unless it is as blatant as the Robin / Sven fight then I am happy to accept the judges ruling