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    Quote Originally Posted by kingfrnk View Post
    i wouldnt be upset if he stayed retired he did wat he had to do and did his way. and the only fighters that would give him a tough fight is Cotto, Margarito, and Paul williams. and the only person TO ME that could beat Floyd is Paul. Cotto is a good fighter but he can be hit easily as he showed against Margarito. and Margarito puts on alot of pressure but Floyd can handle pressure really good and he is way to slow for PBF and will get counterd at will. So the only person that leaves is PW and thats because he has a good workrate has decent power and is a boxer instead of a come foward brawler which will give PBF some fits since PW can work the ring and wont play in to Mayweathers games.

    but none of fights will happen if PBF fights anybody it will be Pacman.

    Yup! PAC (if he beats Hoya) is the most attractive option for PBF...

    What a line-up for PAC.... Hoya, PBF, Hatton...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    I maintain my stance that Floyd isint staying retired.. He said all along leading up to the Hatton fight that he was taking a year off to recover from all the promotional stuff, training, dancing with the stars etc...

    My question is, if Pac beats Delahoya and looks good at 147, say Floyd comes out of retirement to fight Pac and beats him, does Floyd become PFP#1 again and how does a win over Pac being 40lbs over his original weight effect his legacy?

    1)Better for his legacy

    2)Not really since Pac is smaller
    Let the whiney teary eyed wimp STAY retired boxing is better off without him
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    Quote Originally Posted by C.J.Rock View Post
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    I maintain my stance that Floyd isint staying retired.. He said all along leading up to the Hatton fight that he was taking a year off to recover from all the promotional stuff, training, dancing with the stars etc...

    My question is, if Pac beats Delahoya and looks good at 147, say Floyd comes out of retirement to fight Pac and beats him, does Floyd become PFP#1 again and how does a win over Pac being 40lbs over his original weight effect his legacy?

    1)Better for his legacy

    2)Not really since Pac is smaller
    Let the whiney teary eyed wimp STAY retired boxing is better off without him

    Hmmm... I'm not a Floyd fan but the "whiny, teary eyed wimp" has beat up some of the best fighters of our era... With style.

    Granted he's been part of a few mismatches but who hasn't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny_G View Post
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    Honestly, I hope he stays retired.

    I don't miss him one bit.

    you dont miss floyd because he would beat your boy cotto
    You know Floyd is AFRAID of Cotto and Margarito. Why the hell do you think Floyd G@yweather retired? Two of the badest Welters were standing in Floyds way. Floyd was so afraid of Tony and Cotto that Floyd opted to retire before the Cotto/Margarito fight because he knew that if he faced Oscar and won yet another boring azz split decision that everyone would have been DEMANDING that Floyd face the winner of Cotto/Margarito. If you ask me, Floyd did not want to fight either one. Floyd gave up MILLIONS in order to get his name as far away from that fight and we all know it. Now we have Tony Margarito calling out Oscar De La Hoya and Oscar is running like a little biatch too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    I maintain my stance that Floyd isint staying retired.. He said all along leading up to the Hatton fight that he was taking a year off to recover from all the promotional stuff, training, dancing with the stars etc...

    My question is, if Pac beats Delahoya and looks good at 147, say Floyd comes out of retirement to fight Pac and beats him, does Floyd become PFP#1 again and how does a win over Pac being 40lbs over his original weight effect his legacy?

    1)Better for his legacy

    2)Not really since Pac is smaller
    But seriously think about this ...
    Which of the two affect your legacy more ....

    1) Fighting the big fights as perceived by the press and general public..

    OR

    2) Fighting the big fights as perceived by the boxing fraternity and the rankings..


    I know which it should be .. but how often does it happen that way around..

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    Alright for those who say that he is running from Margarito and Cotto exactly how are they going to beat him all i like to know. What it Cotto going to do to Oscar he has a chin like Margrito and can box is fast and can punch harder i can see him destroying Cotto if they fought. As for Margrito can be out boxed somthing Oscar can do and if the fight takes place at the weight of lmw then i bet Oscar may knock the man out i just saying what i think while happen if you have another idea please share with me.

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    Alright for those who say that he is running from Margarito and Cotto exactly how are they going to beat him all i like to know. What it Cotto going to do to Oscar he has a chin like Margrito and can box is fast and can punch harder i can see him destroying Cotto if they fought. As for Margrito can be out boxed somthing Oscar can do and if the fight takes place at the weight of lmw then i bet Oscar may knock the man out i just saying what i think while happen if you have another idea please share with me.
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    Well if it ain the guy with the guns have not seen you in while dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    I maintain my stance that Floyd isint staying retired.. He said all along leading up to the Hatton fight that he was taking a year off to recover from all the promotional stuff, training, dancing with the stars etc...

    My question is, if Pac beats Delahoya and looks good at 147, say Floyd comes out of retirement to fight Pac and beats him, does Floyd become PFP#1 again and how does a win over Pac being 40lbs over his original weight effect his legacy?

    1)Better for his legacy

    2)Not really since Pac is smaller
    Floyd will definitely fight again. There's no doubt in my mind.

    If Manny beats Oscar, I think Manny vs. Floyd is a very legit scenario, and it would be the biggest PFP fight since Chavez-Whitaker.

    As for the parts in bold, Floyd is still the #1 PFP fighter in the world in my eyes. When I refer to Manny as #1 PFP, I usually say that Manny is #1 PFP "since Floyd is not active."

    Also, the "40 lbs above his original weight" thing is overblown IMO. The only reason Manny started at such a low weight is because he was a teenager. If he had been in the amateurs and then turned pro at 19 or 20 years old, he would have started at a higher weight. Floyd as a teenager was only a few pounds bigger than Manny was at the same age.

    If Manny loses to Oscar, then I think Floyd will wait to see who emerges from the Margarito/Mosley/Cotto fights. I assume that Margarito and Mosley will fight in January, and then Cotto will fight the winner in the summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee number 1 groupie View Post
    Of course Floyd Mayweather should get credit, all this BS about Manny Pacquiao starting off at this weight and that weight. Is ridiculous how much did you weigh at 16 and how much do you weigh now ? when i was 16 i was just about 10 stone now im 164 pounds comfortably.

    Do you see the point im making here ? Manny Pacquiao is at his comfortable weight now. And he's fully grown into his weight now, compared to when he was obviously fighting at 16. And im pretty sure when he was fighing at Lightweight he was 146 pounds, so i don't think theres ridiculous amount of difference in the size now. Considering when Floyd Mayweather fought ODLH at Jr Middleweight, he was still only 150 pounds.

    And Floyd Mayweather should for certain get credit for beating Manny Pacquaio, if Manny Pacquiao beats ODLH that is.
    Excellent post.

    Everybody shall see when he fights Oscar that the weight isn't that big of a deal.

    Frame wise, Floyd and Pac are pretty similar.

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    There ain't no "if". Pac ain't beating Oscar. There will never be a Mayweather-Pac fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Well if it ain the guy with the guns have not seen you in while dude.

    Yeah lifes been a bit hit and miss .. but starting to get on here more now ...
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    If Pac beats Oscar how can there be any weight excuses for the Floyd fight? Oscar is bigger than Floyd. Floyds record would definitely be enhanced. That fight (Pac-Floyd) would make PERFECT sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Alright for those who say that he is running from Margarito and Cotto exactly how are they going to beat him all i like to know. What it Cotto going to do to Oscar he has a chin like Margrito and can box is fast and can punch harder i can see him destroying Cotto if they fought. As for Margrito can be out boxed somthing Oscar can do and if the fight takes place at the weight of lmw then i bet Oscar may knock the man out i just saying what i think while happen if you have another idea please share with me.
    It isn't necessarily that he was running from anyone. Just because Oscar dresses in fishnets, doesn't mean he's a bitch. From my understanding Oscar always has fought tough fights.

    Personally, I was disappointed Oscar didn't fight Margarito because Oscar said prior to the Margarito v. Cotto fight that he would fight the winner. In reality, Oscar was willing to fight Cotto, but not Margarito. Why?

    I also disagree with you that Oscar would knock Margarito out. First, Oscar looked very mediocre in his most recent outing in what was labeled as a warm-up fight to his upcoming match with the winner of the Margarito v. Cotto winner, which Oscar backed out of.

    Second, Oscar would have difficulty sustaining Margarito's pace. If you recall, Oscar fought PBF as well as anyone has, up until the 7th or so round. Then Oscar became winded, stopped using his jab, and lost the fight. PBF is not a pressure fighter.

    Third, given Oscar's boxing intelligence and experience, based on Oscar's recent choice of opponents, I think it is fair to say Oscar purposefully fought smaller boxers and has stayed away from big punchers. In the last two years, he has chosen to fight: Steve Forbes (5'7), PBF (5' and now Pacman (5'6).

    Fourth, if Cotto couldn't hurt Tony "granite-chin" Margarito, how would Oscar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    If Pac beats Oscar how can there be any weight excuses for the Floyd fight? Oscar is bigger than Floyd. Floyds record would definitely be enhanced. That fight (Pac-Floyd) would make PERFECT sense.
    Agreed. But, how would you feel about a Pac-Hatton fight? Assuming Hatton wins this weekend?

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