Characters in boxing

[holmcall]

Golata: Combustable persona equals unpredicatbility equals interesting character. Never know what will happen.

[Spicoli]

Golata: Combustable persona equals unpredicatbility equals interesting character. Never know what will happen.

Yeh your right.Like a live action train wreck.Watched that fight with Sampson Po'uha again last night,man that was foul and brutal

[CutMeMick]

I think Jorge Paez epitimized the word "character" for boxing.
Truely and genuinely an entertainer. In every sense of the word.











"Terrible" Terry was a very colorful character throughout his career.
"Macho" Camacho was another one.

[holmcall]

[quote=CutMeMick;644703]I think Jorge Paez epitimized the word "character" for boxing.
Truely and genuinely an entertainer. In every sense of the word.








I once saw him leave his corner and crawl after the card girl. LMFAO!!

[holmcall]

Golata: Combustable persona equals unpredicatbility equals interesting character. Never know what will happen.

Yeh your right.Like a live action train wreck.Watched that fight with Sampson Po'uha again last night,man that was foul and brutal

Took a good chunk out of Po'uha's shoulder if memory serves me correct. Then he headbutted Doc Nicholson and Doc looked at the ref as if to say WTF and then after about 10 seconds, dropped down like he was unconcious from the butt. A circus I tell you. But I still like him.

[Spicoli]

Golata: Combustable persona equals unpredicatbility equals interesting character. Never know what will happen.

Yeh your right.Like a live action train wreck.Watched that fight with Sampson Po'uha again last night,man that was foul and brutal

Took a good chunk out of Po'uha's shoulder if memory serves me correct. Then he headbutted Doc Nicholson and Doc looked at the ref as if to say WTF and then after about 10 seconds, dropped down like he was unconcious from the butt. A circus I tell you. But I still like him.

Haha,O'Grady said he was showing his 'survival instincts' with Po'uha

[Majesty]

sorry im not on as much, warcraft and college takes alot of my time(should be graduating by June)

But I like the way this thread hasnt become a hate one.

The bringing up of Cotto and Margarito, you didn't need to sale that fight

But thats what you'd call a smark fight. "Smart marks" people that have followed boxing and followed these two fighters for quite a while.

But to the casual boxing fan who has no idea who these fighters are it may not be as appealing.

At my college you have boxing fan smart marks, and then you have people who don't really watch boxing but can name some people in it and would watch a fight.

Boxing needs a way to reach a younger demographic, because us as boxing fans won't be there forever. So how is boxing going to bring in a younger crowd or audience of people to get people interested in boxing, thats where my point about the outrageous people can come from.

Kudos to the guy who mentioned James Toney as one.

[holmcall]

Arreola's loud shout out of mutherf---er last night signals character potential. Yep. I see him embarassing the HBO team down the road and that will qualify him for my Hall of Fame.

[El Kabong]

Boxing doesn't NEED characters...seeing how it's an individual sport it does attract them though.

I don't care to see any more jerks than I have to in a given day...I especially don't want to pay to see them

[Althugz]

My favourites are always the characters...or usually the people I hate the most. I used to want to see Haye knocked out so badly.

Floyd and Eubank were my 2 favourite boxers...for me I loved how they pissed people off and no matter how hard their opponents tried they couldn't shut them up or prove them wrong.

I think characters are extremely important for the sport of boxing. If you don't have character how can the people care about you? Characters are very important if the sport is to attract more casual fans and keep them imo.

[nola]

I think the important thing to keep in mind is that "having character" does not necessarily mean you're a jerk; it could mean that you're a nice guy, much like ODLH or Pacman. PBF doesn't seem to know how to do anything but be obnoxious once he steps outside the ring. While I can't fault his boxing skills, I can say he would be the last one in the boxing world that I would like to share a meal with.

The problem with the ODLH/Pacman match is you've got two very similar characters getting in the ring together - they've both fought their way to the top, have a vision for life after boxing, and believe that they need to help out the less fortunate along the way. There s no reason for these two to fight, other than money. There are plenty of other fights for Pacman, fights that could advance his career, and ODLH doesn't need to fight anymore, his career is nearly over.

I think this quote really does sum it up well -

And my opinion on this thread is, if the right matchups are made, you don't need a bunch of characters to force feed us a bunch of crap to sell a fight.

Did we need trash talk to sell us Cotto/Margarito? No, because is was the right matchup.

I have to agree with this. Sometimes, you just KNOW that a fight is going to be a good one. That the fighters are well matched, or that fighter A has a grudge against fighter B. And if that's there, you don't need to generate the PBF style hype to sell the PPVs.

Fess up - who got the PPV for the too-short Pacman-Morales fight just because there was a grudge to settle? As soon as the fight was scheduled, we decided to get it. The promise of a good fight was there, no hype needed. (Or, at least it was until you saw the fight, right? But by then, your money was in and it was just too late.)

Taylor-Pavlik II? It was a fight we all wanted to see. And both fighters had a lot of character, they both had strong personalities and a desire to win.

Calzaghe-Jones? After Hopkins took Hatton, we all wanted to see if Roy would do the same to Joe, even Joe's fans were biting their nails after Hopkins-Hatton. And all four of these fighters have character, too.

It's sort of like the baseball movie quote - If you build it, they will come.

If they build the better fights, we will come.

Without the hype.
Because they won't need it.

[SaltyBacon]

seems like when we have a charcter he's hated

but my fav. toney/prince naseem/eubanks/casyamor and a couple of more

[HattonTheHammer]

Amongst the hardcore boxing alumni were never going to NEED these type of personalitys amongst us but....

For the sport to survive these types of cocky, flashy stars make the sport what it is


I personally feel we need a tyson esque ticking time bomb back within the scene. The sort of guy who from his entrance to what he does in the ring to whether he kicks off at the post fight conference nobody knows what is gonna happen with him!!


If only Mayorga was a decent boxer

[Majesty]

Amongst the hardcore boxing alumni were never going to NEED these type of personalitys amongst us but....

For the sport to survive these types of cocky, flashy stars make the sport what it is


I personally feel we need a tyson esque ticking time bomb back within the scene. The sort of guy who from his entrance to what he does in the ring to whether he kicks off at the post fight conference nobody knows what is gonna happen with him!!


If only Mayorga was a decent boxer

Yeah thats the point I was getting at, that these characters can draw new people into boxing that don't really follow it.

Because us the "smart mark" boxing fans will know a good matchup when we see it, but the casual fan that doesn't really watch boxing wouldn't know a good matchup. So yes for the sport to survive and draw in new people there needs to be an attraction like that, whether it be to a boxer to hate or to love or a story, it has to be beyond just a good matchup to snag in some new people to the sport of boxing. It's a reason I think the contender was so successful.