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    Default Re: Is Hatton Pac's most powerful opponent yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by the_pRoDiGy View Post
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    Ha! I think he looks badass and I'm gay? you were the one who had the taste of a teenage girl calling him ugly and freaky with his moustache! so does that mean that anyone who disagrees with your girly tastes is gay? Not.oh boy..go talk to your girlfriends.
    Actually you said he weren't ugly. Which implies he's cute.
    OMG look at that logic. You are one smart guy.

    And you're criticizing me for not liking a guy with a moustache ? LOL have you heard yourself. I can't belive you just said that. It may be normal to say he's pretty in your gay world, but not mine. I ain't into your sick camp fantasies. Fag.
    Nope. I aint criticizing your punk ass for not liking a moustache or for calling him ugly. I just said he don't look ugly to me and in fact he look badass like a gangsta to me. And I even said I'd rather looked like that than a fat Ricky Hatton (even if I'm a big fan of Ricky). does that make me gay? You started throwing names and insults to me after I gave my opinion in a not so boxing-related thread. Then I criticized your punk ass in this thread about your VERY SURE STATEMENT about Ricky's weight and because of the lack of valid reasonings and the ability to be in a decent argument you again came up with these banters.You just to have to defend your heavy statements (and accusations) and accept faults if you cant do so anymore. That's why I'm scrutinizing your punk EMPTY CAN ass and I still won't call you a fag!

    Ive been to ireland many many times and have never heard anyone use these phrases....though would dearly like to
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    Default Re: Is Hatton Pac's most powerful opponent yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    He doesn't come in heavier fight night. Otherwise he would be sluggish like he was against Collazo. You gotta trust me on this.
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    I don't mean to correct anyone, but it is an established fact that Ricky does come into the fight at least 7 to 10 pounds heavier than his weigh in weight.
    As always Donny speaketh the truth! No way Hatton weighs in at 140 come fight night. He's at least 147lb on the night once re-hydrated.

    This is the case for every boxer! Surely you're aware of that Lefty?
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    Default Re: Is Hatton Pac's most powerful opponent yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conrad View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    He doesn't come in heavier fight night. Otherwise he would be sluggish like he was against Collazo. You gotta trust me on this.
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    I don't mean to correct anyone, but it is an established fact that Ricky does come into the fight at least 7 to 10 pounds heavier than his weigh in weight.
    As always Donny speaketh the truth! No way Hatton weighs in at 140 come fight night. He's at least 147lb on the night once re-hydrated.

    This is the case for every boxer! Surely you're aware of that Lefty?
    Fact. The said thing is he just accused someone of not knowing anything about boxing then after embarrasing his punk EMPTY CAN ass started diggin and barkin about some pointless thread and posts. Is this guy for real? or is this just the way things goes in here?
    An empty can is always noisy.

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    Default Re: Is Hatton Pac's most powerful opponent yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conrad View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    He doesn't come in heavier fight night. Otherwise he would be sluggish like he was against Collazo. You gotta trust me on this.
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    I don't mean to correct anyone, but it is an established fact that Ricky does come into the fight at least 7 to 10 pounds heavier than his weigh in weight.
    As always Donny speaketh the truth! No way Hatton weighs in at 140 come fight night. He's at least 147lb on the night once re-hydrated.

    This is the case for every boxer! Surely you're aware of that Lefty?
    He'll bulk up a couple. But I doubt Hatton comes in around 150. Cuz 140 suits him fine. If he does come in at 150 then I didn't have a clue. Most boxers bulk up obviousley. But I still think Hatton doesn't go up 10 pounds. If I'm wrong then so be it. I guess you learn something new every day LOL.
    Last edited by leftylee; 01-05-2009 at 03:37 PM.

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    Default Re: Is Hatton Pac's most powerful opponent yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by the_pRoDiGy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Conrad View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    He doesn't come in heavier fight night. Otherwise he would be sluggish like he was against Collazo. You gotta trust me on this.
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    I don't mean to correct anyone, but it is an established fact that Ricky does come into the fight at least 7 to 10 pounds heavier than his weigh in weight.
    As always Donny speaketh the truth! No way Hatton weighs in at 140 come fight night. He's at least 147lb on the night once re-hydrated.

    This is the case for every boxer! Surely you're aware of that Lefty?
    Fact. The said thing is he just accused someone of not knowing anything about boxing then after embarrasing his punk EMPTY CAN ass started diggin and barkin about some pointless thread and posts. Is this guy for real? or is this just the way things goes in here?
    What's it like talking to the wall ? You still banging on ? Damn. I already won TKO Round 2. Bout's over. And you don't deserve a rematch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
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    WTF ??

    Is the Collazo fight the only fight you've seen ? Hatton doesn't come in at that weight whatsoever. He comes in at 140 fight night. You obviousley don't know much about the sport.
    Slow down you're embarrasing yourself homie.
    He doesn't come in heavier fight night. Otherwise he would be sluggish like he was against Collazo. You gotta trust me on this.

    And I am certainly not embarrasing myself. This coming from the same guy who a few days ago said Tony Margarito was pretty
    Wow!, "What a total _____" You can fill in the blank. But my bad for writing DLH was at 142 he was at 147 and that weight on fight night with his clothes on. Pacquiao was 142 and re hydrated to 148 or so.

    I vaguely remember reading Hatton saying 6 lbs re hydrated is his optimum.

    When fighters make weight, let us say for the fight say 140lbs, they "plan" to rehydrate at a higher weight to gain an advantage during the fight. The more he has to dehydrate to make the weight the less stamina he has for the fight. 4 to 6 lbs is a good target for light welterweight. Generally the more weight a fighter has the more power his punches have thus the reasoning for advantage during the fight. Some fighters/trainers don't like this plan and don't do it, but many do. There are also factors as to weather a fighter is coming up in weight or going down. Because it is not illegal, a fighter can be dehydrated to make weight by using an IV.

    Since Pacquiao is normally around 145-150 in shape I don't expect he will try to bulk up any more and will use the same training regiment as he had for DLH. 8 weeks. Hatton on the other hand most likely will opt toward his power and I look for him to go into the fight with as much weight advantage as he can get. Thus why I say about 150. Although I read he plans on training for 13 weeks for this fight.

    I think if Mayweather Sr. wants Hatton to train lighter (same as DLH) to gain more speed and turn Hatton from his abilities that got him to the top, I think it is a mistake because Hatton is no Mayweather Jr. and he will loose his power advantage. Lets see what his actual plan is during the training camp watch.

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    Default Re: Is Hatton Pac's most powerful opponent yet?

    Pacman will KO Hatton! Hatton doesnt hit you with crisp shots that land flush. When he wins its simply because he's in better shape and he wrestles peoples energy away. That crap won't work against Pacquiao's superior movement. Pac is way to quick and slippery for Hatton to try to come inside and bully. Pacquiao's left hand is gonna make Hatton look like a mess. Im just not that impressed with Hatton. He cant put together combinations, he has no jab, and he's predictable. Trust me Freddie Roach will have a master plan to annialate Ricky Hatton. Maybe this will finally shut Floyd Mayweather Sr. up about how he thinks he's the best trainer out there. Roach 5 to 1 better than Mayweather, Pacquiao 5 to 1 better than Hatton!

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    Default Re: Is Hatton Pac's most powerful opponent yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
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    As always Donny speaketh the truth! No way Hatton weighs in at 140 come fight night. He's at least 147lb on the night once re-hydrated.

    This is the case for every boxer! Surely you're aware of that Lefty?
    Fact. The said thing is he just accused someone of not knowing anything about boxing then after embarrasing his punk EMPTY CAN ass started diggin and barkin about some pointless thread and posts. Is this guy for real? or is this just the way things goes in here?
    What's it like talking to the wall ? You still banging on ? Damn. I already won TKO Round 2. Bout's over. And you don't deserve a rematch.
    I'd rather talk to a wall all day than argue more with your childish punk EMPTY CAN ass.



    you think you won?fine.but you just got served homie.


    and I'm still not callin you gay!
    An empty can is always noisy.

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    Default Re: Is Hatton Pac's most powerful opponent yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by levi#1BoxingFan View Post
    Pacman will KO Hatton! Hatton doesnt hit you with crisp shots that land flush. When he wins its simply because he's in better shape and he wrestles peoples energy away. That crap won't work against Pacquiao's superior movement. Pac is way to quick and slippery for Hatton to try to come inside and bully. Pacquiao's left hand is gonna make Hatton look like a mess. Im just not that impressed with Hatton. He cant put together combinations, he has no jab, and he's predictable. Trust me Freddie Roach will have a master plan to annialate Ricky Hatton. Maybe this will finally shut Floyd Mayweather Sr. up about how he thinks he's the best trainer out there. Roach 5 to 1 better than Mayweather, Pacquiao 5 to 1 better than Hatton!
    I heartily disagree with pretty much everything you say. Hatton is clearly Pac's most powerful opponent yet, and one of the quickest on his feet too. Manny will have more than a fit or two.

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    Default Re: Is Hatton Pac's most powerful opponent yet?

    Not unless he will came Face to face with the former no. 1 Floyd Mayweather No that is a True Test of hi skillsmanship!

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by levi#1BoxingFan View Post
    Pacman will KO Hatton! Hatton doesnt hit you with crisp shots that land flush. When he wins its simply because he's in better shape and he wrestles peoples energy away. That crap won't work against Pacquiao's superior movement. Pac is way to quick and slippery for Hatton to try to come inside and bully. Pacquiao's left hand is gonna make Hatton look like a mess. Im just not that impressed with Hatton. He cant put together combinations, he has no jab, and he's predictable. Trust me Freddie Roach will have a master plan to annialate Ricky Hatton. Maybe this will finally shut Floyd Mayweather Sr. up about how he thinks he's the best trainer out there. Roach 5 to 1 better than Mayweather, Pacquiao 5 to 1 better than Hatton!
    I heartily disagree with pretty much everything you say. Hatton is clearly Pac's most powerful opponent yet, and one of the quickest on his feet too. Manny will have more than a fit or two.
    Pacquiao has faced many faster fighters than Hatton in lower weight classes, just none that are as powerful. Hatton has to mug Pacquiao Ruberto Duran style if wants a "W".

    I think in the power department, they are pretty muched matched, unless Hatton comes in much heavier, which is what he should do. If Hatton comes in lighter, around (140) like some of you think he will, there is no way he's going to out box Pacquiao. Mayweather Sr. is just dreaming if he thinks Hatton can dance his way to a win over Pacquiao. If that happens Just mark another "L" on Hatton's resume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mod777 View Post
    Not unless he will came Face to face with the former no. 1 Floyd Mayweather No that is a True Test of hi skillsmanship!
    Mayweather never..... faces Pacquiao. Especial after Pacquiao beats Hatton.

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    Default Re: Is Hatton Pac's most powerful opponent yet?

    Hatton is not quick on his feet. He simply comes in ties you up and try to bully you. Hardly any movement at all. He usually makes for very boring fights, but with Pacquiao's movement he's gonna be teeing off on Hattons face. This fight will be stopped, I'll garuntee it!

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    Default Re: Is Hatton Pac's most powerful opponent yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conrad View Post
    Excluding ODLH for obvious reasons, has Pac ever been in with anyone that can hit or is as strong as Hatton?

    It seems to me a lot of people (including the bookies) have Manny the clear favourite to win this. Personally I feel Hatton has the edge, mostly down to his strength advantage.

    Do you think Manny has ever faced an opponent as physically strong as Hatton? JMM pushed Manny as hard as anyone but JMM isn't as strong as Hatton
    As far as physicality,I believe he is the strongest Manny has faced.I don't think he stands a chance of straight outboxing Pacquioa.Diaz was pretty strong,rugged and I think Pacquioa will have to box him smart with that straight power and movement....don't get drawn into a clutch,hook affair.Hatton is leaps and bounds ahead of a Diaz and can be very effective on the inside,But I can not get the vision of Lazcano catching him with those lefts out of my head.Definatly no gimme for Pacquioa,Hatton fights with as much intensity as anyone today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Well I think Ricky Hatton has had his day you can't yo-yo your weight so much and still be the same guy. I don't think Mayweather's training style will help him either.

    Pacquiao will have to watch out for the clinching and infighting Hatton loves to do. Ricky is going to try and bully Pacquiao and as always I think Manny is going to use his speed and agility to land power punches. Manny has too much speed, too much stamina for Ricky to handle....Ricky's best shot is to make it a rough fight and wear Manny down which he has the ability to do....I just don't know how Ricky is going to take to the southpaw stance vs a guy with fast hands and good power.
    fair points mate, but there was definatley an improvement from hatton in the malignaggi fight that id attribute to mayweather snr. He still got hit a bit too much but alot less than he usually gets hit. As for the clinching, it was malignaggi doing all the clinching all night long in his last fight. i think the southpaw stance will cause problems for hatton just because hatton has always struggled with them.

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