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    Default Re: So long, Dubya

    I though I would never say this being a big Bush critic, but I think im gonna miss W a little bit. He wasnt a great president, but he always did what he thought was right for this country. He was at least was firm in his beliefs. Also, everyone fails to mention that since Sept. 11, there hasnt been a terrorist attack in this country. He deserves credit for keeping the country safe in a post 9-11 world. That said, he did f@ck up a lot.

    As for Obama, I want to like him but every time I hear him speak he sounds like an actor to me. He didnt even write his speech. If he was such an inspirational and great thinker, wouldnt he have written his own speech? I think he is a great public speaker and has a good image, but he hasnt had to be much else as of yet, well today he became the most powerful person in this country. I think, like a good amateur boxer going pro, there is a lot of hype but anything of substance has yet to be seen. Talk is cheap, but he is the president now, so I hope he amounts to a good one, not just a good campaigner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boom Boom View Post
    I though I would never say this being a big Bush critic, but I think im gonna miss W a little bit. He wasnt a great president, but he always did what he thought was right for this country. He was at least was firm in his beliefs. Also, everyone fails to mention that since Sept. 11, there hasnt been a terrorist attack in this country. He deserves credit for keeping the country safe in a post 9-11 world. That said, he did f@ck up a lot.

    As for Obama, I want to like him but every time I hear him speak he sounds like an actor to me. He didnt even write his speech. If he was such an inspirational and great thinker, wouldnt he have written his own speech? I think he is a great public speaker and has a good image, but he hasnt had to be much else as of yet, well today he became the most powerful person in this country. I think, like a good amateur boxer going pro, there is a lot of hype but anything of substance has yet to be seen. Talk is cheap, but he is the president now, so I hope he amounts to a good one, not just a good campaigner.
    Actually he did write most of it himself,and Bush cant even read the speeches handed to him,let alone write one

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    Default Re: So long, Dubya

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    I'm going to give Obama just as much of a chance as you guys gave W. So he's going to catch hell from day 1....so I'll wait until he is put into office and then the destruction begins.

    If Obama is getting a hard time it would mean that things are not going well.

    If things are not going well then its bad for your country.


    Not much of a patriot are you,its as if you want bad thing to happen just so you can say I told you so.

    Sad man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boom Boom View Post
    I though I would never say this being a big Bush critic, but I think im gonna miss W a little bit. He wasnt a great president, but he always did what he thought was right for this country. He was at least was firm in his beliefs. Also, everyone fails to mention that since Sept. 11, there hasnt been a terrorist attack in this country. He deserves credit for keeping the country safe in a post 9-11 world. That said, he did f@ck up a lot.
    Well, I'm not going to miss him. I won't be applying the soft gaze of revisionism on him and his regime.

    Saying he always did what he thought was right isn't great praise if he was consistently wrong all the time, and being firm in his beliefs is a nicer way of saying that he was stubborn, misguided and not open to reason (a political fundamentalist, if you like)

    Indeed, there has not been a publicised terrorist attack in the US since the Twin Towers, but at what cost to your world image and to your own freedoms and rights? Incidentally, don't forget that there had not been a terrorist attack in the US EVER before that idiot came into power.

    Unfortunately, to me anyway -Bush will always be a semi-bordeline buffoon (the aggressive yet slightly retarded younger brother who everyone ignores at barbecues) who only got into power because he was backed by big corporate business, the oil US defence and industry and by stealing a second election.

    Good riddance. The world is suddenly a safer place already.

    I hope you guys are not kidding yourself that you voted in a black president because you are all suddenly an equal society...... Barack won the election simply by being not Bush or McCain.

    I question whether the American people would have voted in a chimp just to get rid of those people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by porkypara View Post
    If Obama is getting a hard time it would mean that things are not going well.

    If things are not going well then its bad for your country.


    Not much of a patriot are you,its as if you want bad thing to happen just so you can say I told you so.

    Sad man.
    I am a patriot....I love my country but I don't like the government trying to be the answer to EVERYTHING and Barry said "ONLY government can solve this problem (the economic crisis)"

    Let the free market handle it

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    Default Re: So long, Dubya

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by porkypara View Post
    If Obama is getting a hard time it would mean that things are not going well.

    If things are not going well then its bad for your country.


    Not much of a patriot are you,its as if you want bad thing to happen just so you can say I told you so.

    Sad man.
    I am a patriot....I love my country but I don't like the government trying to be the answer to EVERYTHING and Barry said "ONLY government can solve this problem (the economic crisis)"

    Let the free market handle it
    Because lord knows a currently relatively unfettered free market has done SUCH a great job of things over the last 8 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boom Boom View Post
    Also, everyone fails to mention that since Sept. 11, there hasnt been a terrorist attack in this country. He deserves credit for keeping the country safe in a post 9-11 world.


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    Default Re: So long, Dubya

    The best Bush quote came from when he was at that summit talking to Tony Blair and the microphones picked up their conversation. I didn't make this up :

    The camera is focused elsewhere and it is not clear whom Bush is talking to, but possibly Chinese President Hu Jintao, a guest at the summit. Bush: "Gotta go home. Got something to do tonight. Go to the airport, get on the airplane and go home. How about you? Where are you going? Home?
    Bush: "This is your neighborhood. It doesn't take you long to get home. How long does it take you to get home?"
    Reply is inaudible.
    Bush: "Eight hours? Me too. Russia's a big country and you're a big country."

    At this point, the president seems to bring someone else into the conversation.

    Bush: "It takes him eight hours to fly home."
    He turns his attention to a server.
    Bush: "No, Diet Coke, Diet Coke."
    He turns back to whomever he was talking with.
    Bush: "It takes him eight hours to fly home. Eight hours. Russia's big and so is China."




    So there you have it. At a conference where world leaders are negotiating difficult geopolitical issues that require an intimate knowledge of each country's positions, strengths and weaknesses on each issue Bush is almost childlike in his knowledge and not shy about letting people know how clueless he is either. The leader of the free world, a man nearly sixty years of age who has to make life and death decisions every day and a bit of basic geography that any eight year old is aware of is a new and wonderful piece of knowledge for him.




    Russia is big and so is China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boom Boom View Post
    Also, everyone fails to mention that since Sept. 11, there hasnt been a terrorist attack in this country. He deserves credit for keeping the country safe in a post 9-11 world.

    ......uuuuummmm FDR is blank buddy. I don't know what you think but IMO Pearl Harbor WAS terrorist in nature granted they at least had the balls to attack our military and not our citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boom Boom View Post
    Also, everyone fails to mention that since Sept. 11, there hasnt been a terrorist attack in this country. He deserves credit for keeping the country safe in a post 9-11 world.

    ......uuuuummmm FDR is blank buddy. I don't know what you think but IMO Pearl Harbor WAS terrorist in nature granted they at least had the balls to attack our military and not our citizens.

    I am in agreement with Lyle on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boom Boom View Post
    Also, everyone fails to mention that since Sept. 11, there hasnt been a terrorist attack in this country. He deserves credit for keeping the country safe in a post 9-11 world.

    ......uuuuummmm FDR is blank buddy. I don't know what you think but IMO Pearl Harbor WAS terrorist in nature granted they at least had the balls to attack our military and not our citizens.
    I wouldnt consider it "terrorism"
    Id consider it an act of war by a uniformed enemy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boom Boom View Post
    Also, everyone fails to mention that since Sept. 11, there hasnt been a terrorist attack in this country. He deserves credit for keeping the country safe in a post 9-11 world.

    ......uuuuummmm FDR is blank buddy. I don't know what you think but IMO Pearl Harbor WAS terrorist in nature granted they at least had the balls to attack our military and not our citizens.
    It was an attack by the Japanese army who were dressed in Japanese military uniforms. In no legal or historical definition could it be described as a terrorist attack. You're entitled to your opinion but as usual it's at odds with the facts and the evidence.

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    OK what about the Lebanon Marine barracks bombing in the 80's, The USS Cole, The Oklahoma City Bombing, The Embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania, and the 1993 World Trade Center Bombing



    But either way the Japanese EARNED their fate for what they did December 7, 1941.....it was a fight without honor and they deserved the loss they received

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    Default Re: So long, Dubya

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    OK what about the Lebanon Marine barracks bombing in the 80's, The USS Cole, The Oklahoma City Bombing, The Embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania, and the 1993 World Trade Center Bombing



    But either way the Japanese EARNED their fate for what they did December 7, 1941.....it was a fight without honor and they deserved the loss they received
    Either not on US soil, not done by non-US citizens or didn't cause mass casualties.

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