Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?

[XaduBoxer]

Like I said

JMM was a friggin draw the 1st time and Pac got a Xmas present in the 2nd fight... Far from beatings.. JMM fuked up Pac's face pretty bad too dude..

David Diaz who gives a poop about that ham and egger, he was a paper champion to begin with.. Now all of a sudden its relevant that Pac beat him up.. I got news for you dude, Erik Morales beat that joker and got shafted.. Yea the same Erik Morales that you brag about Pac turning into a shot fighter

Even if the judges saw PAC-JMM 1 as a draw, it does not change the fact that PAC gave JMM a beating... You could make a case that JMM also gave PAC a beating but that's another story or thread...

PAC definitely gave Erik Morales the worst beating in Erik's whole boxing career... PAC was the 1st one for knocked down Erik and the 1st boxer to stop the granite chin Morales... This fact can't be denied...

So PAC giving boxing legends (Barrera, JMM, Morales, DelaHoya) a worst beating, it's also possible PAC will give it to Hatton, isn't it?? Am I right??
.

Even if Pac gave Barrera, Morales, DLH, and JMM which i dont think was so bad...
Hatton is a total different fighter than all of those in so many ways.
Styles make fights.
Hatton is closest to prime than all 4 of them.
Hatton is 140 KING.
Hatton will test Pacman in so many ways.
Im not ruling out Pacman I juzz think Hatton is at an advantage so im giving him the odds.

Good opinion and I respect that... This is what I expect as answer to my question... Actually it is just a simple yes or no question but you guys wanted to change some facts... Is it really that difficult to accept these facts that PAC gave a worst beating to some boxing legends?? I think it's not hard to accept...
.

[Manuel "Chubby" Medina]

Even if the judges saw PAC-JMM 1 as a draw, it does not change the fact that PAC gave JMM a beating... You could make a case that JMM also gave PAC a beating but that's another story or thread...

PAC definitely gave Erik Morales the worst beating in Erik's whole boxing career... PAC was the 1st one for knocked down Erik and the 1st boxer to stop the granite chin Morales... This fact can't be denied...

So PAC giving boxing legends (Barrera, JMM, Morales, DelaHoya) a worst beating, it's also possible PAC will give it to Hatton, isn't it?? Am I right??
.

Even if Pac gave Barrera, Morales, DLH, and JMM which i dont think was so bad...
Hatton is a total different fighter than all of those in so many ways.
Styles make fights.
Hatton is closest to prime than all 4 of them.
Hatton is 140 KING.
Hatton will test Pacman in so many ways.
Im not ruling out Pacman I juzz think Hatton is at an advantage so im giving him the odds.

Good opinion and I respect that... This is what I expect as answer to my question... Actually it is just a simple yes or no question but you guys wanted to change some facts... Is it really that difficult to accept these facts that PAC gave a worst beating to some boxing legends?? I think it's not hard to accept...
.

[XaduBoxer]

Even if Pac gave Barrera, Morales, DLH, and JMM which i dont think was so bad...
Hatton is a total different fighter than all of those in so many ways.
Styles make fights.
Hatton is closest to prime than all 4 of them.
Hatton is 140 KING.
Hatton will test Pacman in so many ways.
Im not ruling out Pacman I juzz think Hatton is at an advantage so im giving him the odds.

Good opinion and I respect that... This is what I expect as answer to my question... Actually it is just a simple yes or no question but you guys wanted to change some facts... Is it really that difficult to accept these facts that PAC gave a worst beating to some boxing legends?? I think it's not hard to accept...
.

.

[Andre]

I will make it clear for you. The facts I presented: Pacquiao inflicted the worst beating to Barrera, JMM, Erik Morales, David Diaz, Oscar DelaHoya and many other boxers. That's what happened, they were established facts. Are you with me?

No, I'm not. Those aren't facts, those are opinions.. and many people on this board will disagree with you. You seem to think your opinion counts as established fact

It's facts, it already happened ... Is it really difficult to accept these facts, these realities??

So who in fact dished out the worst beating to Barrera? to JMM? to Morales? to David Diaz? to Oscar Dela Hoya? Can you tell us??
.

Bat man?

[Andre]

Hatton need to get inside to reach Pac. His short arms is a Major dissadvantage 20' compared to 25" by Pac. Hatton's pressure only works against a weaker & slower fighter than him. Unfortunately Pac is the much quicker & I think is the stronger Puncher(or Sharper puncher).

Hatton's advantage is his strenght but he can't use it because Pac will pepper him from the outside with Jabs & Straight left. Pac has a very good head movement, even in a clinche he's aware if there' punches coming( see Velasquez fight). Expect Pac to land a straight left everytime Hatton Lean to his left to get close to Pac. Jab will be ther all night. Hatton will be busted by rd 3. KD on rd 4 & Pac finishes him around rd 5. Sorry Hatton Fans... I seldom make wrong Predictions!!!

And why is that do you think ?

Look for my old predictions from ESB to Pacland & to myboxing forum or google any of my predictions. You'll be amazed how accurate some of them are.

No thanks my friend I dont need proof, I belive you, just asking how you think you do it?
Are you good at all different predictions over all the fields of boxing or do you concentrate on mainly Pacman and how he deals with each fighter?
Its still good if you can pick the round and how the fight will go. Well done.
Can we get you a drink or something?

[Zelley]

This is one of the fights that as the possibilities of being a boxing classic
or a mismatch. It all depends on what fight Hatton brings into the ring.
Without a doubt, PAC should be the likely winner, but anything can happen
when two good warriors stand face to face.

Will Hatton be just another British fighter that will get chopped-up and defeated, or will he take a page out of the Randy Turpin handbook when he defeated the great Sugar Ray Robinson in London in July 1951.

Remember, Turpin was aggressive and used an effective jab
to upset the "Sugar Man', can Hatton do the same to upset the
'PAC Man", or will it be like the return fight where PAC scores
a knockout in 10 like Robinson did to Turpin.

Will it be like the 1948 Gus Lesnevich - Freddy Mills,
where Hatton scores a couple of convincing knockdowns
to win the decision, or will it be like the Joey Maxim vs Mills
battle where the PAC Man scores the KO in ten like Maxim
did to Mills.

Anything is possible, but it may be a ten round loss for Hatton.
Hatton's best bet is to use his new found jab to perfection, but
put the pressure on the PAC Man from round one.

[JT Rock]

I dont have a problem with you Saddoboxer, its just the way you twist and spin the bias toward Pac is extremely nauseating...

Its ridiculous to say Pac beat the Crap out of JMM and Morales, when those guys kick the piss out of him too..

Why the heck would you bring up Diaz for He has never been relevant

[Pacdbest2]

And why is that do you think ?

Look for my old predictions from ESB to Pacland & to myboxing forum or google any of my predictions. You'll be amazed how accurate some of them are.

No thanks my friend I dont need proof, I belive you, just asking how you think you do it?
Are you good at all different predictions over all the fields of boxing or do you concentrate on mainly Pacman and how he deals with each fighter?
Its still good if you can pick the round and how the fight will go. Well done.
Can we get you a drink or something?

I'm pretty good with predictions. I predicted the real estate Crash in the US 2 years ago. I predicted Ninoy Aquino will be assasinated a week before his death.

But with Pac is comes with a little research & watching tapes of his fights over & over. If I do my homework, I normally predict accurately. I've seen already a bunch of Hatton fights & I don't see how he will be able to beat Pac. Maybe by the lucky punch.. That's all he has.

[XaduBoxer]

I dont have a problem with you Saddoboxer, its just the way you twist and spin the bias toward Pac is extremely nauseating...

Its ridiculous to say Pac beat the Crap out of JMM and Morales, when those guys kick the piss out of him too..

Why the heck would you bring up Diaz for He has never been relevant

I also don't have any problem with you JT or with any other poster for that matter...

What I presented is true, PAC dished out the worst beating to Morales and JMM... You are also correct that Morales and JMM also dished out a beating on PAC but it's another story... How about the worst beating that Barrera and DelaHoya received?? We're sorry for them since they had not dished out a beating on PAC...
.

[XaduBoxer]

"Looking at the Tale of the Tape now, Hatton enters the ring with a professional record of 45-1, 32 KO’s. His height is listed at 5’7 ½” with a reach of 65.” It is expected Hatton will weigh-in between 139 and 140 lbs, his usual fighting weight.

Pacquiao’s professional record is 48-3-2, 36 KO’s. The Pac-Man stands in at 5’ 6 ½” and has a reach of 67.” His weight will remain a mystery until he steps on the scales, having never fought in the junior welterweight division before. Pacquiao weighed 129 for his March 2008 fight with Marquez, and as much as 142 in December for the super fight with Oscar De La Hoya. This fight will mark the fourth different weight division in which he has competed in as many fights.

Examining the numbers, Hatton will have a one inch height advantage, but Pacquiao will have a 2” advantage in reach. This is significant because Pacquiao likes to stay outside using his jab as a measuring stick, then his quickness to jump in with fast but powerful combinations. Conventional wisdom says that Hatton will be the stronger of the two at the 140 pound weight class, but if recent history has shown us anything it is that conventional wisdom goes out the window once the bell rings. Antonio Margarito was supposed to be the stronger of the two when he faced Sugar Shane Mosley on January 24, yet it was Mosley who easily pushed Margarito off at times in the fight and soundly defeated the WBA Welterweight champion. Before that, it was Manny Pacquiao who was supposed to be a near ‘sacrificial lamb’ to the bigger, stronger Oscar De La Hoya. However, boxing fans all saw what occurred there as the Pac-Man dominated the Golden Boy.

Looking at their respective records it can be stated with relative authority that Pacquiao has faced a better class of opposition than has Hatton. While the two share no common opponents with which to compare their performances, Pacquiao has faced the likes of Erik Morales (three times), Juan Manuel Marquez (twice), Marco Antonio Barrera (twice), as well as David Diaz and Oscar De La Hoya. Hatton’s record consists of only two huge names; Kostya Tszyu, whom Ricky stopped in 11 rounds in perhaps his finest performance, and Floyd Mayweather, JR., whom Hatton was stopped by in 10 rounds. Other names appearing on the Hit Man’s record include Juan Urango, Luis Collazo, and Jose Luis Castillo.

And now, for the fight itself. Once the bell rings there is a boxing axiom that while at times perceived as the dreaded “conventional wisdom” is one that history shows holds true, and that is: “speed kills.” Pacquiao will attempt to use his speed from the outset, setting a blistering pace and scoring with lightning fast


Combinations, while avoiding return fire from Hatton. Hatton meanwhile, will be attempting to come forward, pressing the attack, crowding the ever moving Pacquiao, hoping to force him into exchanges where the Hit Man can do damage. How Hatton goes about this may be the yardstick of his potential success or failure on this night. Ricky must not be preoccupied with landing shots to the head. He must be content to land as he can to the body in those moments when Pacquiao comes inside looking to land fast combinations. Hatton is a terrific body puncher and he must bring that talent to bear on Pacquiao if he has any hopes of success. Further, Hatton must not come straight in and straight up or he will be mere cannon fodder for Pacquiao’s pinpoint punches. The Hit Man must present angles to Pacquiao, making himself a difficult target and perhaps making Pac Man miss thus setting up the opportunity to “make him pay” as they say in boxing vernacular.

In studying the one fight that may be the closest to what we can expect on May 2 it can be found that Floyd Mayweather, JR., a speedster with fast hands like Pacquiao had much success in landing a left hook as Ricky came forward. Mayweather also was able to land straight right leads on Hatton even early in the fight when Hatton was having some measure of success. However, in that fight Hatton was always appearing to be leading for the head, a mistake as outlined earlier. He must go to the body in hopes of slowing Pacquiao down, an investment that could pay dividends even in this troubled economy if the fight gets into the later rounds.

Hatton’s penchant for cutting is troubling at best in this fight. Pacquiao’s sharp punching will undoubtedly bring forth the flow of blood from Ricky. Hatton is used to this, so his dealing it with it is not a concern, and his corner has proven skillful in keeping the cuts under control. But Pacquiao has shown in the past that he possesses a great killer instinct and is a terrific finisher. If he sees blood, he will attack it and continue to land on the area.

Another troubling aspect of the fight for Hatton is his seeming inability to ‘change up’ or adapt as the fight progresses. Against Mayweather, he was getting hit with the same punches over and over again because he came in the same way every time. In fact, as that fight wore on Hatton stopped moving his head all together and came straight in, again a big mistake as outlined previously. Like Mayweather, Pacquiao will find his niche; that punch that keeps working for him and he will land it as often as the opening presents itself. In this case, given that Pacquiao is a southpaw, it may indeed be the left hook. But in recent fights as Pacquiao has shown improvement in almost every aspect of his style he has become a much better right hand puncher as well. Thus, the straight right is not out of the question for Manny to land with authority as Mayweather did.

The final kink in Ricky Hatton’s armor, and the one that may prove the most


damaging in his quest to defeat the ‘Pound For Pound King’ Manny Pacquiao can be seen in Hatton’s last two fights, against Lazcano and Malignaggi. While seemingly dominant in both fights, Hatton appeared slower of both hand and foot. Perhaps Ricky is showing the wear of too many wars. Perhaps it is the effects of his infamous between fight weight gains. In either case, if he cannot catch Pacquiao with punches or move fast enough to cut off the ring then all will be lost.

Pacquiao, for his part, must attempt to keep the fight in the center of the ring,
something Mayweather did not do effectively. The key to this for Pacquiao will be his foot speed and constant punching. He must keep Hatton turning, off balance and unable to mount an offense. If need be Pacquiao can tie up the rushing Hit Man much as Sugar Shane Mosley did against Antonio Margarito; never allowing the “Tijuana Tornado” to ratchet up his attack.

If Pacquiao is successful in exploiting the weaknesses of Ricky Hatton, and if he punches with the same authority he displayed against De La Hoya, then I see this fight ending inside of nine rounds with Hatton bloodied, dropped, and stopped.

And now up to the ring announcer for the final particulars…..

“Ladies and gentlemen….. the winner.... and new….”

link --> Ringside Report "The Heart Of Boxing"

[fan johnny]

That was a good read... but Pacquiao would have to be as perfect as he was against De La Hoya and Diaz to pull off the fight like that....

I just don't see that kind of perfection against Hatton. Once Pacquiao gets tagged he's gonna lose his patience and start brawling with Hatton. The man "Pacquiao" just loves to get it on.... His speed will likely save him from being roughed up too much once Hatton gets to the inside and by the way tell me, has anyone ever seen Pacquiao resort to clinching? (tie up) I don't think well see him do that as a defensive counter manuever unless he's struggling to recover from taking a big shot. And isn't that Hatton's specially? I'd expect if Pacquiao does that he'll get bitched at in the corner and that won't happen subsequent rounds. These guys are both brawlers improving their game.... so yea, I can see this fight in the first two rounds could be more but I doubt it... after that it's really just anyone's guess as to what really happens... to answer the question, Hatton gets the wrost beating ever from the Pacman win or loose....

[brucelee]

"Looking at the Tale of the Tape now, Hatton enters the ring with a professional record of 45-1, 32 KO’s. His height is listed at 5’7 ½” with a reach of 65.” It is expected Hatton will weigh-in between 139 and 140 lbs, his usual fighting weight.

Pacquiao’s professional record is 48-3-2, 36 KO’s. The Pac-Man stands in at 5’ 6 ½” and has a reach of 67.” His weight will remain a mystery until he steps on the scales, having never fought in the junior welterweight division before. Pacquiao weighed 129 for his March 2008 fight with Marquez, and as much as 142 in December for the super fight with Oscar De La Hoya. This fight will mark the fourth different weight division in which he has competed in as many fights.

Examining the numbers, Hatton will have a one inch height advantage, but Pacquiao will have a 2” advantage in reach. This is significant because Pacquiao likes to stay outside using his jab as a measuring stick, then his quickness to jump in with fast but powerful combinations. Conventional wisdom says that Hatton will be the stronger of the two at the 140 pound weight class, but if recent history has shown us anything it is that conventional wisdom goes out the window once the bell rings. Antonio Margarito was supposed to be the stronger of the two when he faced Sugar Shane Mosley on January 24, yet it was Mosley who easily pushed Margarito off at times in the fight and soundly defeated the WBA Welterweight champion. Before that, it was Manny Pacquiao who was supposed to be a near ‘sacrificial lamb’ to the bigger, stronger Oscar De La Hoya. However, boxing fans all saw what occurred there as the Pac-Man dominated the Golden Boy.

Looking at their respective records it can be stated with relative authority that Pacquiao has faced a better class of opposition than has Hatton. While the two share no common opponents with which to compare their performances, Pacquiao has faced the likes of Erik Morales (three times), Juan Manuel Marquez (twice), Marco Antonio Barrera (twice), as well as David Diaz and Oscar De La Hoya. Hatton’s record consists of only two huge names; Kostya Tszyu, whom Ricky stopped in 11 rounds in perhaps his finest performance, and Floyd Mayweather, JR., whom Hatton was stopped by in 10 rounds. Other names appearing on the Hit Man’s record include Juan Urango, Luis Collazo, and Jose Luis Castillo.

And now, for the fight itself. Once the bell rings there is a boxing axiom that while at times perceived as the dreaded “conventional wisdom” is one that history shows holds true, and that is: “speed kills.” Pacquiao will attempt to use his speed from the outset, setting a blistering pace and scoring with lightning fast


Combinations, while avoiding return fire from Hatton. Hatton meanwhile, will be attempting to come forward, pressing the attack, crowding the ever moving Pacquiao, hoping to force him into exchanges where the Hit Man can do damage. How Hatton goes about this may be the yardstick of his potential success or failure on this night. Ricky must not be preoccupied with landing shots to the head. He must be content to land as he can to the body in those moments when Pacquiao comes inside looking to land fast combinations. Hatton is a terrific body puncher and he must bring that talent to bear on Pacquiao if he has any hopes of success. Further, Hatton must not come straight in and straight up or he will be mere cannon fodder for Pacquiao’s pinpoint punches. The Hit Man must present angles to Pacquiao, making himself a difficult target and perhaps making Pac Man miss thus setting up the opportunity to “make him pay” as they say in boxing vernacular.

In studying the one fight that may be the closest to what we can expect on May 2 it can be found that Floyd Mayweather, JR., a speedster with fast hands like Pacquiao had much success in landing a left hook as Ricky came forward. Mayweather also was able to land straight right leads on Hatton even early in the fight when Hatton was having some measure of success. However, in that fight Hatton was always appearing to be leading for the head, a mistake as outlined earlier. He must go to the body in hopes of slowing Pacquiao down, an investment that could pay dividends even in this troubled economy if the fight gets into the later rounds.

Hatton’s penchant for cutting is troubling at best in this fight. Pacquiao’s sharp punching will undoubtedly bring forth the flow of blood from Ricky. Hatton is used to this, so his dealing it with it is not a concern, and his corner has proven skillful in keeping the cuts under control. But Pacquiao has shown in the past that he possesses a great killer instinct and is a terrific finisher. If he sees blood, he will attack it and continue to land on the area.

Another troubling aspect of the fight for Hatton is his seeming inability to ‘change up’ or adapt as the fight progresses. Against Mayweather, he was getting hit with the same punches over and over again because he came in the same way every time. In fact, as that fight wore on Hatton stopped moving his head all together and came straight in, again a big mistake as outlined previously. Like Mayweather, Pacquiao will find his niche; that punch that keeps working for him and he will land it as often as the opening presents itself. In this case, given that Pacquiao is a southpaw, it may indeed be the left hook. But in recent fights as Pacquiao has shown improvement in almost every aspect of his style he has become a much better right hand puncher as well. Thus, the straight right is not out of the question for Manny to land with authority as Mayweather did.

The final kink in Ricky Hatton’s armor, and the one that may prove the most


damaging in his quest to defeat the ‘Pound For Pound King’ Manny Pacquiao can be seen in Hatton’s last two fights, against Lazcano and Malignaggi. While seemingly dominant in both fights, Hatton appeared slower of both hand and foot. Perhaps Ricky is showing the wear of too many wars. Perhaps it is the effects of his infamous between fight weight gains. In either case, if he cannot catch Pacquiao with punches or move fast enough to cut off the ring then all will be lost.

Pacquiao, for his part, must attempt to keep the fight in the center of the ring,
something Mayweather did not do effectively. The key to this for Pacquiao will be his foot speed and constant punching. He must keep Hatton turning, off balance and unable to mount an offense. If need be Pacquiao can tie up the rushing Hit Man much as Sugar Shane Mosley did against Antonio Margarito; never allowing the “Tijuana Tornado” to ratchet up his attack.

If Pacquiao is successful in exploiting the weaknesses of Ricky Hatton, and if he punches with the same authority he displayed against De La Hoya, then I see this fight ending inside of nine rounds with Hatton bloodied, dropped, and stopped.

And now up to the ring announcer for the final particulars…..

“Ladies and gentlemen….. the winner.... and new….”

link --> Ringside Report "The Heart Of Boxing"

Nice read and very unbiased. Wish I could write like that.

[:::PSL:::]

If Malinaggi who is well known to have weak punching power gave Hatton a swollen black eye with jabs in 1st round, then imagine what 300+ straight lefts from Pacquiao would do to him.

[Pacdbest2]

This is one of the fights that as the possibilities of being a boxing classic
or a mismatch. It all depends on what fight Hatton brings into the ring.
Without a doubt, PAC should be the likely winner, but anything can happen
when two good warriors stand face to face.

Will Hatton be just another British fighter that will get chopped-up and defeated, or will he take a page out of the Randy Turpin handbook when he defeated the great Sugar Ray Robinson in London in July 1951.

Remember, Turpin was aggressive and used an effective jab
to upset the "Sugar Man', can Hatton do the same to upset the
'PAC Man", or will it be like the return fight where PAC scores
a knockout in 10 like Robinson did to Turpin.

Will it be like the 1948 Gus Lesnevich - Freddy Mills,
where Hatton scores a couple of convincing knockdowns
to win the decision, or will it be like the Joey Maxim vs Mills
battle where the PAC Man scores the KO in ten like Maxim
did to Mills.

Anything is possible, but it may be a ten round loss for Hatton.
Hatton's best bet is to use his new found jab to perfection, but
put the pressure on the PAC Man from round one.

Problem with Pac, He's very experienced with Different kinds of fighters. Hatton's a come forward bulliing style. Just recently Pac Dominate Diaz with his come forward style. Lucero & Velasquez did the same. Hussein-hussein same Dirty style but still a very young Pac still handles him. Note also that Pac was just a raw-unskilled Fighter then that's why Pac hit some Problem then. I just don't see Hatton winning any rounds here against a prime time Pac!

[XaduBoxer]

Pac should smash Hatton rather easily
Brad Cooney

"So, here we go again. Another training camp soon to begin for the sports number one pound for pound king Manny Pacquiao. The last time we were approaching this sort of thing everybody (me included) in the boxing scribe world was talking as if De La Hoya was going to simply destroy Pacquiao. Well as everyone knows now, Manny had a little something different in mind. With this next fight between Pacquiao and Ricky Hatton, when you compare the fighting styles of both warriors, I don't see how Pacquiao doesn't come out of this one with his arm raised.

Speed kills, and the speed that will be inflicted upon Ricky Hatton's face and body will be an awful lot to handle. Hatton is a come to you kind of fighter, so if he plans on "coming to" Manny Pacquiao, expect to see the British version of a human bobble head doll in the ring. This doesn't mean that Pacquiao can just get into the ring and let his guard down, because Hatton is a true warrior and he will show up to fight.

The beauty of having a Freddie Roach in your corner is having that master game plan in your corner with you. Roach will no doubt be looking at video of every Hatton fight, and he will put together the plan that will ultimately deal "The Hitman" his bloody ending.

I expect to see blinding speed and basically an all out assault dished out to Ricky Hatton. More than likely there will be blood, and more than likely it won't be on the face of Manny Pacquiao. Hatton's only chance is to catch Manny with something that he's not ready for, or doesn't see. Roach will have Manny ready, so if Hatton is to pull off an upset he will need to hit Manny with something that Manny doesn't see. Evander Holyfield told me one time that "It's not so much how hard someone hits, it more of a matter of getting hit with something that you do not see." Is this possible? Yes, it's possible, but it's not probable.

I do expect to see Hatton have his moments in the ring. He will get hit a lot, and he will be the recipient of many combinations from many angles, however, he will keep coming. Ricky Hatton is a true warrior in the ring, and if he's taken lightly he just may deliver a UK ass whooping of his own. I think this only happens if Pacquiao underestimates him and gets lazy in the ring. Although I believe that this fight will be a good one, in the end it's Pacquiao's speed that will put the Hit on "The Hitman."

.