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    Default Re: The all new Velociraptor and why I laugh at 'science'

    I'm not sure what you mean Laing? Are you preposing that Velociraptor DOESN'T look like that feathered turkey monster according to science?

    Because I assure you it does! It is considered a scientific fact now that Velocripator was covered in feathers and looked just like the turkey monster in question. This new image has even made its way to the latest childrens books.

    Please I invite you to google it yourself.

    Velociraptor Had Feathers

    ]Velociraptor was a feathered fiend - Times Online




    The bbc news service covered it as well

    BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Velociraptor dino 'had feathers'




    So it's now a FACT of science that that is what Velociraptor looked like, if you're disagreeing you're disagreeing with science not me
    Last edited by Kev; 02-11-2009 at 10:36 PM.

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    Default Re: The all new Velociraptor and why I laugh at 'science'

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    I'm not sure what you mean Laing? Are you preposing that Velociraptor DOESN'T look like that feathered turkey monster according to science?

    Because I assure you it does! It is considered a scientific fact now that Velocripator was covered in feathers and looked just like the turkey monster in question. This new image has even made its way to the latest childrens books.

    Please I invite you to google it yourself.

    Velociraptor Had Feathers

    ]Velociraptor was a feathered fiend - Times Online




    The bbc news service covered it as well

    BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Velociraptor dino 'had feathers'




    So it's now a FACT of science that that is what Velociraptor looked like, if you're disagreeing you're disagreeing with science not me
    Yes it is, so what?

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    Default Re: The all new Velociraptor and why I laugh at 'science'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    I'm not sure what you mean Laing? Are you preposing that Velociraptor DOESN'T look like that feathered turkey monster according to science?

    Because I assure you it does! It is considered a scientific fact now that Velocripator was covered in feathers and looked just like the turkey monster in question. This new image has even made its way to the latest childrens books.

    Please I invite you to google it yourself.

    Velociraptor Had Feathers

    ]Velociraptor was a feathered fiend - Times Online




    The bbc news service covered it as well

    BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Velociraptor dino 'had feathers'




    So it's now a FACT of science that that is what Velociraptor looked like, if you're disagreeing you're disagreeing with science not me
    Yes it is, so what?
    So why are you criticising my pictures?

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    Default Re: The all new Velociraptor and why I laugh at 'science'

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    I'm not sure what you mean Laing? Are you preposing that Velociraptor DOESN'T look like that feathered turkey monster according to science?

    Because I assure you it does! It is considered a scientific fact now that Velocripator was covered in feathers and looked just like the turkey monster in question. This new image has even made its way to the latest childrens books.

    Please I invite you to google it yourself.

    Velociraptor Had Feathers

    ]Velociraptor was a feathered fiend - Times Online




    The bbc news service covered it as well

    BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Velociraptor dino 'had feathers'




    So it's now a FACT of science that that is what Velociraptor looked like, if you're disagreeing you're disagreeing with science not me
    Yes it is, so what?
    So why are you criticising my pictures?
    Because how something is portrayed in a popup book or a Hollywood movie doesn't qualify as empirical evidence.

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    Default Re: The all new Velociraptor and why I laugh at 'science'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post

    Yes it is, so what?
    So why are you criticising my pictures?
    Because how something is portrayed in a popup book or a Hollywood movie doesn't qualify as empirical evidence.
    The feather picture I presented wasn't from my pop up book. Go check out Wiki's view, they have even added wings!!!

    The second pic I provided IS the SCIENTIFIC opinion of what they looked like. Actually to be more precise, it's the viw that science wants to convey it looked like in current books and literature to emphasise that they believe that therapod dinosaurs like velociraptor were the descendents of birds.

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    Default Re: The all new Velociraptor and why I laugh at 'science'

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post

    So why are you criticising my pictures?
    Because how something is portrayed in a popup book or a Hollywood movie doesn't qualify as empirical evidence.
    The feather picture I presented wasn't from my pop up book. Go check out Wiki's view, they have even added wings!!!

    The second pic I provided IS the SCIENTIFIC opinion of what they looked like. Actually to be more precise, it's the viw that science wants to convey it looked like in current books and literature to emphasise that they believe that therapod dinosaurs like velociraptor were the descendents of birds.
    Which scientists believe that they descended from birds?

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    Default Re: The all new Velociraptor and why I laugh at 'science'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post

    Because how something is portrayed in a popup book or a Hollywood movie doesn't qualify as empirical evidence.
    The feather picture I presented wasn't from my pop up book. Go check out Wiki's view, they have even added wings!!!

    The second pic I provided IS the SCIENTIFIC opinion of what they looked like. Actually to be more precise, it's the viw that science wants to convey it looked like in current books and literature to emphasise that they believe that therapod dinosaurs like velociraptor were the descendents of birds.
    Which scientists believe that they descended from birds?
    Erm every single scientist apart from Alan Fedducia who is the lone ornithologist voice against the therapod evolution of birds into dinosaurs.

    According to science it's been proven beyond reasonable doubt now, allegedly.

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    Default Re: The all new Velociraptor and why I laugh at 'science'

    Regardless of any scientific theories, I must say that Im still very upset by that second picture of the Velociraptor. All those feathers and colours and flailing limbs looking all dressed up for Halloween. I used to love dinosaurs as a kid and would memorize all their names and collect books with wonderful images of these great lizards with leather like skin and teeth as sharp as knives. And here in my adulthood I am being told that the velociraptor was actually a multicoloured flamer with cutesy little feathers? Its disheartening to say the least.

    We will have T Rex with a mullet and goatee beard next, as if the puny looking arms werent embarrassing enough! Leave my dinosaurs alone!

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    Default Re: The all new Velociraptor and why I laugh at 'science'

    I like dinosaurs. but a dinosaur having feathers is kinda weird but then again im no scientist. they probably have found a different species that has feathers on it.

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    Default Re: The all new Velociraptor and why I laugh at 'science'

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Regardless of any scientific theories, I must say that Im still very upset by that second picture of the Velociraptor. All those feathers and colours and flailing limbs looking all dressed up for Halloween. I used to love dinosaurs as a kid and would memorize all their names and collect books with wonderful images of these great lizards with leather like skin and teeth as sharp as knives. And here in my adulthood I am being told that the velociraptor was actually a multicoloured flamer with cutesy little feathers? Its disheartening to say the least.

    We will have T Rex with a mullet and goatee beard next, as if the puny looking arms werent embarrassing enough! Leave my dinosaurs alone!
    It's funny you should mention T Rex a few years ago a concerted effort was undertaken by certain evolutionists to put feathers on the T Rex too. It is now accepted (I'm being serious) that the early ancestors of T Rex were feathered and that actual baby T Rex's were born with feathers but that these fell off as the animal matured.

    It is also widely accepted that a T Rex is closer to a chicken than a crocodile.

    Here's a new book on the subject courtesy of those perennial bullshitters The National Geographic


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    Default Re: The all new Velociraptor and why I laugh at 'science'

    Maybe Im overlooking something obvious in my ignorance, but how do we possibly know if any of these creatures had feathers or not??

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    Default Re: The all new Velociraptor and why I laugh at 'science'

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Maybe Im overlooking something obvious in my ignorance, but how do we possibly know if any of these creatures had feathers or not??
    Fossils of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Maybe Im overlooking something obvious in my ignorance, but how do we possibly know if any of these creatures had feathers or not??
    Fossils of course.
    There are actually imprints of feathers in the rock?

    I feel like a complete dummy regarding all this! I really havent a clue!

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    Default Re: The all new Velociraptor and why I laugh at 'science'

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post

    So why are you criticising my pictures?
    Because how something is portrayed in a popup book or a Hollywood movie doesn't qualify as empirical evidence.
    The feather picture I presented wasn't from my pop up book. Go check out Wiki's view, they have even added wings!!!

    The second pic I provided IS the SCIENTIFIC opinion of what they looked like. Actually to be more precise, it's the viw that science wants to convey it looked like in current books and literature to emphasise that they believe that therapod dinosaurs like velociraptor were the descendents of birds.
    It is a scientific opinion postulated as a possibility by some dudes who found some (but not concrete) evidence to suggest that they might have feathers.

    I agree that there is a lot of bad science out there, where people make outlandish assumptions from the least convincing evidence, but unfortunately these are the ones that make it to the mainstream media.

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    Default Re: The all new Velociraptor and why I laugh at 'science'

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post

    The feather picture I presented wasn't from my pop up book. Go check out Wiki's view, they have even added wings!!!

    The second pic I provided IS the SCIENTIFIC opinion of what they looked like. Actually to be more precise, it's the viw that science wants to convey it looked like in current books and literature to emphasise that they believe that therapod dinosaurs like velociraptor were the descendents of birds.
    Which scientists believe that they descended from birds?
    Erm every single scientist apart from Alan Fedducia who is the lone ornithologist voice against the therapod evolution of birds into dinosaurs.

    According to science it's been proven beyond reasonable doubt now, allegedly.
    Show me one single scientific paper or quote from a scientist that alleges birds evolved into dinosaurs.

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