I think RJJ will surprise people

**Spicoli** · 03-23-2009 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by BoomBoom

His old legs cant keep him off the damn ropes. Hes still good in the center of the ring, but hes been laying on the ropes too much for too long now. Thats not going to change, and neither will his sucess at the top level.

Bingo.Some say Calzaghe carried him,I dont exactly buy that in its truest meaning.But....If Calzaghe spent all of that time that he was clowning,shaking his azz and trying to out showman Roy....and insted asserted and applied for the stoppage...he may of produced it.

**Taeth** · 03-24-2009 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by Bilbo

Originally Posted by Taeth

Originally Posted by AdamGB

Taeth Roy is my favourite fighter second only to Ali... but Calzaghe carried him.

He looked pretty decent against Sheika but I don't think that is because he has much more to give... I think that he's just found his level.

On his day I'm sure that there is still a winnable big fight out there for him, but the odds are against it and I don't think that he needs the $$$ or to help his legacy... both of those are solid.

The guy just can't let go.

He dominated SHeika, even before this fight I was saying he didn't look that bad against Calzaghe, how exactly did Calzaghe carry him? Calzaghe threw almost a thousand punches, he was trying to get through, but Roy's defense is really good.

Shot is Ali losing to Berbick, Leonard getting ko'ed by Hector Camacho, Duran losing to somebody called Omar Gonzalez.

If Roy was truly shot, Calzaghe would have landed way more, Trinidad would have stopped him.

Not in the eyes of the haters Taeth. It just confirms that A Trinidad was also shot, and that B Calzaghe is and always has been fucking shit

I'm not saying Calzaghe is fucking shit, just that he isn't a finisher, and hasn't been for years, just liek Hopkins and Jones haven't been either, but Roy was far from helpless against Joe, and saying Trinidad is shot is laughable people throw that word around as much as robbery and All time great, and its misplaced as often as either of those two.

**Rantcatrat** · 03-24-2009 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by Taeth

He got a cut says it all? I am surprised Joe couldn't stop him, even though Roy couldn't see out of one eye for half the fight. People will look back at their fight years from now and realize that Joe really wasn't that impressive in the fight, he could barely land anything, he was showboating, but getting hit flush as a result of it, that Roy who was a shade of his former self held his own until he got that bad cut, and besides outworking Roy, Joe really didn't outbox him.

Calzaghe completely clowned RJJ. Calzaghe took mercy on him for the final three rounds. It was obvious.

Effective volume punching is a skill. If not, why didn't RJJ neutralize it? Why didn't Bhop neutralize it? Why didn't Kessler?

**JazMerkin** · 03-24-2009 01:09 PM

Calzaghe is a hell of great boxer, and he did dominate & outbox Roy (although not as much as on the scorecards which were ludicrous) but the fact is a prime Roy would never have let Calzaghe get away with all that clowning in da ring, he would have battered him. Yes Calzaghe's volume punching is an impressive skill, but the fact is a younger RJJ & B-Hop would have found a way to beat it (as Hopkins already did IMO). Saying he beat Trinidad means nothing, Tito was shot & only fighting about 10-15lbs lighter than his walkaround wait & that's assuming he's piled on the pounds. Roy doesn't have it any more, he can maybe beat the likes of Lacy, but Dawson, Hopkins or even Jermain Taylor would have a field day with him now. A Hopkins-Jones rematch would be 12 rounds of Hopkins beating up Roy for all the resentment he's built up in him over the years, before probably KOing him in the 12th. I'm a fan of both guys & its not a fight I wanna see.

**OumaFan** · 03-24-2009 03:47 PM

He's been shot for a while. Some people just can't get over it, Toney's shot too. I've gotten over it. The Calzaghe fight was a farce from day one, said it from day one it was the easiest "big" fight to predict in forever. But some still think he can turn back the clock that one last time. Still.

Dawson would annihalate him, ffs lets get serious people.

The only fight for him strangely enough might be Hopkins cause that would be a feint fest and Roy if anything needs a slow pace which Hopkins is obviously familiar with. But Hopkins probably gets to him with right hands and he can hurt and stop this version of Roy.