can we please have a pinoy forum??

[Spicoli]

They can always try to make Brian Viloria a favorite step child

Like Mexico's favorite step child Margacheato?

Thats original,way to think it out .Dont remember Viloria representing the Philippines in the Olympics though,must have been some other Country

[HattonTheHammer]

Getting sick to death every time manny pacquiao fights, is nearing a fight, gets out of bed etc the main forum just becomes clogged with pacquiao fans talking about their hero.

I love the guys to death and their support for manny is a credit, but is it right we have to accept that 70% of threads on a boxing forum are about 1 fighter?

There are probably more fillipino fight fans on here alone than the rest of the other representing countrys whatsoever and its about time they had their own forum and the boxing board could go back to representing the sport as a whole and not one man!!!!!!!!

No we don't need no muthafukkin flip forum. Only a person who himself lusts after a fighter would suggest such a stupid ass idea

time of the month VD

or still recovering from JTs latest destruction of your arsehole??

[Chino]

They can always try to make Brian Viloria a favorite step child

Like Mexico's favorite step child Margacheato?

Take a look at the different weight divisions and you'll see more than one Mexican in there. Take a look at the Hall of Fame, same thing. Take a look at different weight divisions in past years, same thing.

After watching Pacquiao vs Hatton in a FILIPINO BAR and hearing all the things they were saying about their beloved Manny Pacquiao. I commented with them how nice Pac connected Hatton and how he did his homework and so on. Told them about JMM vs Mayweather, JMM vs Pac 1 and 2, and Mayweather vs Pacquiao, guess what their comments were. So I was wondering the other day why most hardcore PacFanBoys can't never ever imagine their boxer losing, having weaknesses/flaws, being challenged, etc. You ask them about Pac vs X and their immediate answer is "Pac will win, period...Pac will beat him badly...Pac is perfect..." why? Maybe that's the only boxer they know just like when Christy Martin used to fight and no matter who she faced people would know she would win because all other girls who entered the ring were simply unknown or nobody really followed women's boxing to know who was competitive out there until she faced Ali, everybody knew her. Anyways, I am glad there are no more girlie fights in boxing fight cards, I just didn't like it.
I think the casual PacFanBoy boxing fan at least has heard of who Floyd Mayweather Jr. is but even in this forum I see them not even give Mayweather a chance! Wow! This is Mayweather people, don't forget that. Can Mayweather lose vs Pac? OF COURSE! How about the other way around? Can hardcore PacFanBoys see "the other way around" when Pac gets in the ring? I wonder.

Like I said, I somehow understand PacFanBoys as much as I would understand, say, Bangladesh Soccer FanBoys being all overhyped because their team beat a couple of South American and European teams.

[Quinito]

They can always try to make Brian Viloria a favorite step child

Like Mexico's favorite step child Margacheato?

Take a look at the different weight divisions and you'll see more than one Mexican in there. Take a look at the Hall of Fame, same thing. Take a look at different weight divisions in past years, same thing.

After watching Pacquiao vs Hatton in a FILIPINO BAR and hearing all the things they were saying about their beloved Manny Pacquiao. I commented with them how nice Pac connected Hatton and how he did his homework and so on. Told them about JMM vs Mayweather, JMM vs Pac 1 and 2, and Mayweather vs Pacquiao, guess what their comments were. So I was wondering the other day why most hardcore PacFanBoys can't never ever imagine their boxer losing, having weaknesses/flaws, being challenged, etc. You ask them about Pac vs X and their immediate answer is "Pac will win, period...Pac will beat him badly...Pac is perfect..." why? Maybe that's the only boxer they know just like when Christy Martin used to fight and no matter who she faced people would know she would win because all other girls who entered the ring were simply unknown or nobody really followed women's boxing to know who was competitive out there until she faced Ali, everybody knew her. Anyways, I am glad there are no more girlie fights in boxing fight cards, I just didn't like it.
I think the casual PacFanBoy boxing fan at least has heard of who Floyd Mayweather Jr. is but even in this forum I see them not even give Mayweather a chance! Wow! This is Mayweather people, don't forget that. Can Mayweather lose vs Pac? OF COURSE! How about the other way around? Can hardcore PacFanBoys see "the other way around" when Pac gets in the ring? I wonder.

Like I said, I somehow understand PacFanBoys as much as I would understand, say, Bangladesh Soccer FanBoys being all overhyped because their team beat a couple of South American and European teams.

What?! How dare them. You should've called them PacfanBoys right in their faces and see what happens next.

[Violent Demise]

Getting sick to death every time manny pacquiao fights, is nearing a fight, gets out of bed etc the main forum just becomes clogged with pacquiao fans talking about their hero.

I love the guys to death and their support for manny is a credit, but is it right we have to accept that 70% of threads on a boxing forum are about 1 fighter?

There are probably more fillipino fight fans on here alone than the rest of the other representing countrys whatsoever and its about time they had their own forum and the boxing board could go back to representing the sport as a whole and not one man!!!!!!!!

No we don't need no muthafukkin flip forum. Only a person who himself lusts after a fighter would suggest such a stupid ass idea

time of the month VD

or still recovering from JTs latest destruction of your arsehole??

You ain't fooling no one. Everybody heard you scream "Use the jelly, please" as he owned and abuse you not to long ago.

[brucelee]

To answer chino's question, after Pac we have Donaire, Banal, BAutista, Viloria.

Philippines have title holders almost every year and we hardly would go dry in terms of titleholders.

After Pac, we would surely still be here.

[miron_lang]

I'll repost what I said in another thread:

I think its ok for hardcore PacFanBoys to come up with all these threads about Pac being the greatest ever. It can get annoying sometimes but think about it. When was the last time you heard of a Filipino being under the spotlight as much as Pacquiao or achieve at least half as much? For other countries is normal to have not only one but MANY boxers in different weight divisions as champions and Hall of Famers. Think about Mexico, Puerto Rico, USA, England, etc. So let them be. It may last maybe 2 or 3 more years while Pac is fighting because after that, maybe other Filipino boxers will follow, which is good! More competition to the sport or maybe things will go back to how they were with no asian in the boxing spotlight for many years to come.

I'll put it this way, let's say that Bangladesh beat Brazil and other European teams in the World Cup and suddenly became competitive and dominated the sport, wouldn't Bangladesh have a lot to brag about, be proud, have Bangladesh people talking about their soccer team all day long, etc.? Well, think Pac now. Saddoboxer and hardcore PacFanBoys deserve to enjoy this ride while it lasts. I just shake my head slowly and smile when I see threads like this. It's all good really.

I am glad we have Pac in the sport. He brings excitement, big fights, and all the good stuff. A nice likeable humble guy.

I agree to a certain degree but The Philippines has always had a World champion no matter how silent but we always have a champion.

Its not like we have 0 and then we have pacquiao. the philippines even produced a world Champion much earlier than Mexico.

consider these Names:

Pancho Villa ( francisco Guilledo )
Gabriel Elorde
Ceferino Garcia
Dodie Boy Penalosa
Speedy Dado
Rolando Navarette
Luisito Espinosa

and a lot more i cant recall at this time.


at my time There was Navarrete, Penalosa to Espinosa and Pacman. We also have a number of Belt holder from 105 to 115 like ( macalos, Lucas, Gamboa etc )

[miron_lang]

In addition : The Philippines is ahead 7-5 againts UK on head to head Championship bouts

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British fans awed, charmed by Manny

Joaquin Henson, The Philippine Star | 05/13/2009 7:54 AM



British fans are embracing Manny Pacquiao not just as the world’s No. 1 pound-for-pound fighter but as a man who wears his heart on his sleeve – because what you see is what you get.

It was during Pacquiao’s recent promotional tour in London where the Filipino icon swept the hard-to-please British press off their feet. And when he knocked out Manchester’s Ricky Hatton, who once described himself as “the great white hope,” in Las Vegas two weekends ago, Pacquiao won over the British fans with his incredible fighting ability.

Pacquiao was referred to as Clark Kent and Peter Pan by writer Tris Dixon in the highly-respected London weekly trade paper Boxing News (May 1, 2009, issue). The reference to heroic characters spoke volumes of how Pacquiao is regarded in British media.

“He seems smaller than his 5-6 frame would lead you to believe and looks, unbelievably, almost vulnerable in a suit,” wrote Dixon. “It’s a sort of Clark Kent syndrome. Put him in boxing trunks, gloves and boots and you wouldn’t want to be anywhere near him in the ring. And he might be 30 but he has an ageless, Peter Pan-like quality about him.”

In contrast, the British press has been irreverent towards the disgraced Hitman. Some fans turned mercilessly against Hatton for failing to make good on his promise not to disappoint the legion of about 25,000 diehards who flew all the way to Las Vegas to chant, “There’s only one Ricky Hatton” to the tune of “Winter Wonderland.” Instead, the throng was treated to a dazzling display of Pacquiao firepower that sent Hatton to slumber.

The jokes from unforgiving British fans in the internet evoked a sense of disenchantment, if not displeasure. Hatton has been portrayed as almost a traitor to the British cause – rather unfairly. Surely, Hatton didn’t plan to end the fight the way it did.

Some Hatton jokes – ”Ricky Hatton walked into a library and asked for a book on boxing. The librarian said, ‘Try the ground floor.’” “What’s the difference between a 20-pound note and Hatton? The 20-pound note will last more than two rounds.” “For Hatton’s next fight, his sponsors are thinking about advertising on the soles of his boots.” “I think Hatton did a great job blocking the punches with his face.”

But it wasn’t the first time that a British champion fell victim to a Filipino in a world title fight. Flyweight champion Pancho Villa did it twice – over Jimmy Wilde in 1923 and Frankie Ash in 1924. So did another Filipino flyweight titlist Salvador (Dado) Marino, both over Terry Allen in 1950 and 1951. Frank Cedeno knocked out Charlie Magri for the WBC flyweight title in 1983 and Eric Jamili stopped Mickey Cantwell for the WBO minimumweight crown in 1997. With Pacquiao’s victory over Hatton, the count is now the Philippines seven and the UK, five in head-to-head world title fight wins.

Wilde and Magri are considered British ring legends despite their defeats to Filipinos and their life stories are immortalized in books. There were at least two books on Hatton published before he faced Pacquiao – it’s unlikely another will be out soon.

During his visit to London, Pacquiao charmed the British press by claiming Scottish ancestry then quoting what Dixon said was a “well-rehearsed” William Wallace monologue “with a decent, and wonderfully surprising, Scottish accent.”

Pacquiao said, “I’m from Scotland – my hero is William, William Wallace and we’re fighting for freedom.” Wallace, of course, was the 14th century Scottish freedom fighter whose story was the basis of the film “Braveheart” starring Mel Gibson.

“Pacquiao’s charm offensive pays off every time,” said Dixon. “He talks to the media with a twinkle in his eye, as if he enjoys engaging with people rather it being a chore. He is a man of the people. When he strips to the waist in a Las Vegas ring, a nation will stand still and hold its breath.”

Pacquiao told the British press he will be back in London “as a tourist.”

Dixon said one British writer asked if Pacquiao wanted to meet Queen Elizabeth since he named his daughter...Queen Elizabeth. Dixon noticed Pacquiao blushing shyly then replying, ‘Yes.”

“That’s Pacquiao – he’s not a ‘me, me, me’ athlete,” continued Dixon. “He is not governed by money or fame. He is just a man who happens to be very good at what he does. For him and certainly his people, it’s not just about the money. It is about doing a nation proud.”

It’s easy to understand why Pacquiao is now not just the property of the Philippines but the pride of the world.

as of 05/13/2009 7:54 AM

[Chino]

Luisito Espinoza lost his WBA title by KO right after his second fight as a champion. Won the WBC on a close fight to "Mantecas" Medina. Beat Cesar Soto in a close fight but after the rematch everything went down hill.

Rolando Navarrete got KOed on his first try for a title but I don't blame him for losing vs Alexis Arguello. A controversial win vs a Korean opponent Choi. That's what I call home court advantage . Will have to watch that fight again and see how many seconds were left when that bell rang to save Navarrete from a KO loss.

Not sure if we can say much from Speedy Dado after seeing that his last 5 years in the sport were disastrous. 25 or so, straight losses one after the other. All in 5 years of his career. Never holded a World Title. Don't know why you mentioned him.

Dodie Espinoza won a title and a year later lost it.

And so on.

For the moment, Pac is amazing. Interesting how he used to be seen ad a little guy...yeah right! Proving others wrong winning world titles and beating quality opposition as he goes up in weight. We also have Nonito Donaire (you're right BruceLee) who has been looking good. Hope to see him soon vs Fernando Montiel, Daisuke Naito, Denkaosan Kaovichit, southpaw Omar Andrés Narváez, etc. Rey Bautista might be a good prospect. Just lost to Heriberto Ruiz by a wide margin of points though.

Not sure if we could say that there has been another Filipino that has had boxing fans talking about as much as Pac or past American boxers, Mexican boxers, Puerto Rican boxers, etc. But there seems to be some prospects in the making in the lower lighter weights.

[:::PSL:::]

Wow, this thread got derailed.