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    Default There are actually a few semi decent HW fights

    If you took Chris Arreola, David Haye, and Alexander Povetkin, any combination of those three fighting wouldn't be bad IMO. Haye versus both guys is pretty entertaining and I suspect somebody would get stopped in a Arreola-Povetkin fight.

    I actually like Eddie Chambers but I know I'm practically alone in that. I would say maybe throw Boytsov in there but I didn't find him exactly to be a thrill a minute against Bidenko.

    Just avoid the Ibragimovs, Chagaev, Ruiz, McCline, Sam Peter, any short guy that just tries to survive against Wlad, etc.

    Not saying its a good division but there are watchable fights out there.

    Any ideas? Not including an Ibragimov?

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    Default Re: There are actually a few semi decent HW fights

    If David Haye or Cris Arreola is all about beating Wladimir then I would like to see him look spectacular against a fighter of similar stature (6'6-6'7 240+ pounds) or of similar style (a European Boxer/Puncher) so I am thinking Alexander Dimitrenko is probably the perfect guy for either fighter to prove himself against HOWEVER Dimitrenko is scheduled to fight Eddie Chambers next month which totally blows because had Sam Peter won that fight then we would see Sam Peter vs Dimitrenko and that might have been more exciting.

    The fights I would like to see/that would be good for the younger fighters are:

    Arreola: Andrew Golota, Oleg Maskaev, Sam Peter

    Haye: Ray Austin, Hasim Rahman, John Ruiz

    Povetkin: Lamon Brewster, Cedric Boswell, Travis Walker

    The reasons for these fights are that Arreola needs to be able to #1 Outbox a good boxer and #2 Show better defense vs a big puncher. Haye needs to #1 Prove he can handle the size of heavyweights #2 Take a heavyweight punch and #3 Handle the strength of a heavyweight, which say what you will about John Ruiz's talent, he's a tough TOUGH fighter to look good against. Povetkin has proven he can box but he needs to prove #1 He can take a punch #2 He has good stamina and #3 He has good power. They might not be "exciting" but they are interesting to me because how those guys fair vs that competition would give me an idea on how they would do against Wladimir or Vitali

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    Default Re: There are actually a few semi decent HW fights

    Chambers shouldnt be solely written off just yet.

    I dont buy into the arreola thing at all and have seen him become exposed horribly too often by average guys to believe he would have a fighting chance against a povetkin/haye or even chagaev

    the klitschkos will continue picking off the 2nd tier heavys back over in the motherland until david haye gets his act together and blows out Wlad. Definitely see the potential of a arreola-chambers or chagaev-povetkin sometime down the road
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    Default Re: There are actually a few semi decent HW fights

    Lyle the only ones of those that are mildly interesting are the Povetkin ones. You've got Haye and Arreola going up against 6 members of the 10 most boring fighters in the world list.

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    Default Re: There are actually a few semi decent HW fights

    Think Lyle missed the point

    Any of that YOUNG trio matching up would be far more interesting to me than them facing the Klits.

    I can't see how any combo wouldn't make for an exciting fight.
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    Default Re: There are actually a few semi decent HW fights

    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    Lyle the only ones of those that are mildly interesting are the Povetkin ones. You've got Haye and Arreola going up against 6 members of the 10 most boring fighters in the world list.

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    Default Re: There are actually a few semi decent HW fights

    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    If you took Chris Arreola, David Haye, and Alexander Povetkin, any combination of those three fighting wouldn't be bad IMO. Haye versus both guys is pretty entertaining and I suspect somebody would get stopped in a Arreola-Povetkin fight.

    I actually like Eddie Chambers but I know I'm practically alone in that. I would say maybe throw Boytsov in there but I didn't find him exactly to be a thrill a minute against Bidenko.

    Just avoid the Ibragimovs, Chagaev, Ruiz, McCline, Sam Peter, any short guy that just tries to survive against Wlad, etc.

    Not saying its a good division but there are watchable fights out there.

    Any ideas? Not including an Ibragimov?
    The problem is i don't see these fights happening anytime soon, David Haye isn't gonna be risked against those 2 opponents. There too high risk/low reward.

    I doubt there gonna risk Chris Arreola anytime soon aswell, there gonna carefully keep picking his opponents for atleast another year. And Alexander Povetkin what the hell has happened to him ?

    He seems to have fallen off the radar i thought he won a title eliminator shot ? yet he's had to waste his time on two unknown opponents.

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    Default Re: There are actually a few semi decent HW fights

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    If you took Chris Arreola, David Haye, and Alexander Povetkin, any combination of those three fighting wouldn't be bad IMO. Haye versus both guys is pretty entertaining and I suspect somebody would get stopped in a Arreola-Povetkin fight.

    I actually like Eddie Chambers but I know I'm practically alone in that. I would say maybe throw Boytsov in there but I didn't find him exactly to be a thrill a minute against Bidenko.

    Just avoid the Ibragimovs, Chagaev, Ruiz, McCline, Sam Peter, any short guy that just tries to survive against Wlad, etc.

    Not saying its a good division but there are watchable fights out there.

    Any ideas? Not including an Ibragimov?
    The problem is i don't see these fights happening anytime soon, David Haye isn't gonna be risked against those 2 opponents. There too high risk/low reward.

    I doubt there gonna risk Chris Arreola anytime soon aswell, there gonna carefully keep picking his opponents for atleast another year. And Alexander Povetkin what the hell has happened to him ?

    He seems to have fallen off the radar i thought he won a title eliminator shot ? yet he's had to waste his time on two unknown opponents.
    Haye's in charge of himself. Whilst they're unbeaten the other two wouldn't be risked against Haye unless he had a title.
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    Default Re: There are actually a few semi decent HW fights

    If you're not going to eventually challenge the Klitschko's then I guess they might as well fight Valuev now....because if you can't beat those guys you aren't coming close to beating Wladimir or Vitali...but if you want them to fight each other, that's ok I guess...suite me fine, throw Odlainer Solis in the mix as well

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    Default Re: There are actually a few semi decent HW fights

    i like Chambers, he's got a good work ethic, but does seem to lack dedication in preparing himself sometimes, but he's not as boring as Byrd, he's willing to take on the best, and i think that that deserves some credit

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    Default Re: There are actually a few semi decent HW fights

    Good work ethic He disappears for rounds at a time!!! If he threw ANYTHING in the second half of the fight vs Povetkin he could have KO'd Alex!!!! If he had stamina IF....he'd be a very good heavyweight prospect, his defense is just that good and his counter punching is very sharp.

    I do think Alexander Dimitrenko will beat him senseless though...he's another one you guys ought to talk about, that body shot he KO'd Krasniqi with was pretty damn good. Dimitrenko is flawed but he has some pretty good tools.

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    Default Re: There are actually a few semi decent HW fights

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Good work ethic He disappears for rounds at a time!!! If he threw ANYTHING in the second half of the fight vs Povetkin he could have KO'd Alex!!!! If he had stamina IF....he'd be a very good heavyweight prospect, his defense is just that good and his counter punching is very sharp.

    I do think Alexander Dimitrenko will beat him senseless though...he's another one you guys ought to talk about, that body shot he KO'd Krasniqi with was pretty damn good. Dimitrenko is flawed but he has some pretty good tools.
    i'm not one to bash Wlad, but he also tends to disappear for rounds and get a bit sloppy and hug happy, Chambers is a very small heavyweight, and doesn't really have much pop in his punches, but makes up for it with technique and skill, his win over Peter IMO is bigger than anything Povetkin has done, including his win over Byrd

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    Default Re: There are actually a few semi decent HW fights

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    If David Haye or Cris Arreola is all about beating Wladimir then I would like to see him look spectacular against a fighter of similar stature (6'6-6'7 240+ pounds) or of similar style (a European Boxer/Puncher) so I am thinking Alexander Dimitrenko is probably the perfect guy for either fighter to prove himself against HOWEVER Dimitrenko is scheduled to fight Eddie Chambers next month which totally blows because had Sam Peter won that fight then we would see Sam Peter vs Dimitrenko and that might have been more exciting.

    The fights I would like to see/that would be good for the younger fighters are:

    Arreola: Andrew Golota, Oleg Maskaev, Sam Peter

    Haye: Ray Austin, Hasim Rahman, John Ruiz

    Povetkin: Lamon Brewster, Cedric Boswell, Travis Walker

    The reasons for these fights are that Arreola needs to be able to #1 Outbox a good boxer and #2 Show better defense vs a big puncher. Haye needs to #1 Prove he can handle the size of heavyweights #2 Take a heavyweight punch and #3 Handle the strength of a heavyweight, which say what you will about John Ruiz's talent, he's a tough TOUGH fighter to look good against. Povetkin has proven he can box but he needs to prove #1 He can take a punch #2 He has good stamina and #3 He has good power. They might not be "exciting" but they are interesting to me because how those guys fair vs that competition would give me an idea on how they would do against Wladimir or Vitali
    Funny how you say Haye should prove himself against 3 American HW''s that are garbage anyway. Haye has already spanked a yank in Monte Barrett. For this warmup I would fight Povetkin, Dimitrenko etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    If David Haye or Cris Arreola is all about beating Wladimir then I would like to see him look spectacular against a fighter of similar stature (6'6-6'7 240+ pounds) or of similar style (a European Boxer/Puncher) so I am thinking Alexander Dimitrenko is probably the perfect guy for either fighter to prove himself against HOWEVER Dimitrenko is scheduled to fight Eddie Chambers next month which totally blows because had Sam Peter won that fight then we would see Sam Peter vs Dimitrenko and that might have been more exciting.

    The fights I would like to see/that would be good for the younger fighters are:

    Arreola: Andrew Golota, Oleg Maskaev, Sam Peter

    Haye: Ray Austin, Hasim Rahman, John Ruiz

    Povetkin: Lamon Brewster, Cedric Boswell, Travis Walker

    The reasons for these fights are that Arreola needs to be able to #1 Outbox a good boxer and #2 Show better defense vs a big puncher. Haye needs to #1 Prove he can handle the size of heavyweights #2 Take a heavyweight punch and #3 Handle the strength of a heavyweight, which say what you will about John Ruiz's talent, he's a tough TOUGH fighter to look good against. Povetkin has proven he can box but he needs to prove #1 He can take a punch #2 He has good stamina and #3 He has good power. They might not be "exciting" but they are interesting to me because how those guys fair vs that competition would give me an idea on how they would do against Wladimir or Vitali
    Funny how you say Haye should prove himself against 3 American HW''s that are garbage anyway. Haye has already spanked a yank in Monte Barrett. For this warmup I would fight Povetkin, Dimitrenko etc.
    John Ruiz would be a step from Barrett to be honest

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    Default Re: There are actually a few semi decent HW fights

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    If David Haye or Cris Arreola is all about beating Wladimir then I would like to see him look spectacular against a fighter of similar stature (6'6-6'7 240+ pounds) or of similar style (a European Boxer/Puncher) so I am thinking Alexander Dimitrenko is probably the perfect guy for either fighter to prove himself against HOWEVER Dimitrenko is scheduled to fight Eddie Chambers next month which totally blows because had Sam Peter won that fight then we would see Sam Peter vs Dimitrenko and that might have been more exciting.

    The fights I would like to see/that would be good for the younger fighters are:

    Arreola: Andrew Golota, Oleg Maskaev, Sam Peter

    Haye: Ray Austin, Hasim Rahman, John Ruiz

    Povetkin: Lamon Brewster, Cedric Boswell, Travis Walker

    The reasons for these fights are that Arreola needs to be able to #1 Outbox a good boxer and #2 Show better defense vs a big puncher. Haye needs to #1 Prove he can handle the size of heavyweights #2 Take a heavyweight punch and #3 Handle the strength of a heavyweight, which say what you will about John Ruiz's talent, he's a tough TOUGH fighter to look good against. Povetkin has proven he can box but he needs to prove #1 He can take a punch #2 He has good stamina and #3 He has good power. They might not be "exciting" but they are interesting to me because how those guys fair vs that competition would give me an idea on how they would do against Wladimir or Vitali
    Funny how you say Haye should prove himself against 3 American HW''s that are garbage anyway. Haye has already spanked a yank in Monte Barrett. For this warmup I would fight Povetkin, Dimitrenko etc.
    John Ruiz would be a step from Barrett to be honest
    Maybe. But he's American and there heavyweights are heartless. Get Haye with a European.

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