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    Default Re: The best fighters alltime in every weight class

    Heavyweight - Muhammad Ali
    Cruiserweight - Evander Holyfield
    Light-Heavyweight -Michael Spinks
    Super-Middleweight - Joe Calzaghe
    Middleweight - Marvin Hagler
    Light-Middleweight - Mike McCallum
    Welterweight - Sugar Ray Robinson
    Light-Welterweight - Aaron Pryor
    Lightweight - Pernell Whitaker
    Super-Featherweight - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    Featherweight - Willie Pep
    Super-Bantamweight - Wilfredo Gomez
    Bantamweight - Ruben Olivares
    Super-Flyweight - Khaosai Galaxy
    Flyweight - Jimmy Wilde
    Light-Flyweight - Michael Carbajal
    Minimumweight - Ricardo Lopez

    I've only picked guys that I've seen a fair bit of footage of, hence why Armstrong & Benny Leonard miss out at 135, & with the new divisions, some of these guys wouldn't make it into my all-time Top 75 probably, whilst other divisions have so many choices that if I did it again I might change things.

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    Default Re: The best fighters alltime in every weight class

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Heavyweight - Muhammad Ali
    Cruiserweight - Evander Holyfield
    Light-Heavyweight -Michael Spinks
    Super-Middleweight - Joe Calzaghe
    Middleweight - Marvin Hagler
    Light-Middleweight - Mike McCallum
    Welterweight - Sugar Ray Robinson
    Light-Welterweight - Aaron Pryor
    Lightweight - Pernell Whitaker
    Super-Featherweight - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    Featherweight - Willie Pep
    Super-Bantamweight - Wilfredo Gomez
    Bantamweight - Ruben Olivares
    Super-Flyweight - Khaosai Galaxy
    Flyweight - Jimmy Wilde
    Light-Flyweight - Michael Carbajal
    Minimumweight - Ricardo Lopez

    I've only picked guys that I've seen a fair bit of footage of, hence why Armstrong & Benny Leonard miss out at 135, & with the new divisions, some of these guys wouldn't make it into my all-time Top 75 probably, whilst other divisions have so many choices that if I did it again I might change things.
    That's a pretty good list. I'm not so sure about McCallum though. Depends what you mean by best I suppose. Personally I think a guy like Hearns or Leonard would have beaten McCallum at JMW, but they didn't stick around long enough in that division. Same sort of thing with Aaron Pryor. I can think of a few guys that's I'd favor over Pryor at that weight, but again they didn't stick around long enough.

    That's why I think these kind of "Best at each weight" lists don't mean much, too many better fighters fall through the cracks because they moved through the divisions too quickly.

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    Default Re: The best fighters alltime in every weight class

    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Heavyweight - Muhammad Ali
    Cruiserweight - Evander Holyfield
    Light-Heavyweight -Michael Spinks
    Super-Middleweight - Joe Calzaghe
    Middleweight - Marvin Hagler
    Light-Middleweight - Mike McCallum
    Welterweight - Sugar Ray Robinson
    Light-Welterweight - Aaron Pryor
    Lightweight - Pernell Whitaker
    Super-Featherweight - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    Featherweight - Willie Pep
    Super-Bantamweight - Wilfredo Gomez
    Bantamweight - Ruben Olivares
    Super-Flyweight - Khaosai Galaxy
    Flyweight - Jimmy Wilde
    Light-Flyweight - Michael Carbajal
    Minimumweight - Ricardo Lopez

    I've only picked guys that I've seen a fair bit of footage of, hence why Armstrong & Benny Leonard miss out at 135, & with the new divisions, some of these guys wouldn't make it into my all-time Top 75 probably, whilst other divisions have so many choices that if I did it again I might change things.
    That's a pretty good list. I'm not so sure about McCallum though. Depends what you mean by best I suppose. Personally I think a guy like Hearns or Leonard would have beaten McCallum at JMW, but they didn't stick around long enough in that division. Same sort of thing with Aaron Pryor. I can think of a few guys that's I'd favor over Pryor at that weight, but again they didn't stick around long enough.

    That's why I think these kind of "Best at each weight" lists don't mean much, too many better fighters fall through the cracks because they moved through the divisions too quickly.
    Pryor I think was unbeatable at that weight at the time, although a fight between him & Duran would've been class & the aren't many I can see beating him there, maybe slick boxers. But like you say, some guys just move through divisions too quickly. I thought about putting Hearns at LMW, but he just wasn't there long enough & largely fought welters moving up. Similarly, Roy Jones is the best fighter to have fought at SMW for me, but he wasn't there long enough & Calzaghe is the only elite fighter to have really made the division his own

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    Default Re: The best fighters alltime in every weight class

    Well good list dude i only have a few different ones from you rep for list. I just think Larry Holmes could of beaten any heavy including Ali but his resume is not as good so i can see why people think i was wrong. Then there is the Mosley at lw yet again think he could beat anyone at the weight including Duran, Whitcker and Maywather yet again comp not best. Then this i know most wont agree with i though Leonard could beat anyone at welter and his wins over Duran, Benitez and Hearns i rate very high even higher then all the wins that Robinson had just me though.

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    Default Re: The best fighters alltime in every weight class

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Heavyweight - Muhammad Ali
    Cruiserweight - Evander Holyfield
    Light-Heavyweight -Michael Spinks
    Super-Middleweight - Joe Calzaghe
    Middleweight - Marvin Hagler
    Light-Middleweight - Mike McCallum
    Welterweight - Sugar Ray Robinson
    Light-Welterweight - Aaron Pryor
    Lightweight - Pernell Whitaker
    Super-Featherweight - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    Featherweight - Willie Pep
    Super-Bantamweight - Wilfredo Gomez
    Bantamweight - Ruben Olivares
    Super-Flyweight - Khaosai Galaxy
    Flyweight - Jimmy Wilde
    Light-Flyweight - Michael Carbajal
    Minimumweight - Ricardo Lopez

    I've only picked guys that I've seen a fair bit of footage of, hence why Armstrong & Benny Leonard miss out at 135, & with the new divisions, some of these guys wouldn't make it into my all-time Top 75 probably, whilst other divisions have so many choices that if I did it again I might change things.
    That's a pretty good list. I'm not so sure about McCallum though. Depends what you mean by best I suppose. Personally I think a guy like Hearns or Leonard would have beaten McCallum at JMW, but they didn't stick around long enough in that division. Same sort of thing with Aaron Pryor. I can think of a few guys that's I'd favor over Pryor at that weight, but again they didn't stick around long enough.

    That's why I think these kind of "Best at each weight" lists don't mean much, too many better fighters fall through the cracks because they moved through the divisions too quickly.
    Pryor I think was unbeatable at that weight at the time, although a fight between him & Duran would've been class & the aren't many I can see beating him there, maybe slick boxers. But like you say, some guys just move through divisions too quickly. I thought about putting Hearns at LMW, but he just wasn't there long enough & largely fought welters moving up. Similarly, Roy Jones is the best fighter to have fought at SMW for me, but he wasn't there long enough & Calzaghe is the only elite fighter to have really made the division his own
    At the time, sure, go with Pryor, but since we are talking all time then I imagine guys like Mosely, Duran, Mayweather Jr., delaHoya, probably Benitez all are the equal of Pryor at JWW.

    And also I agree with Mr140 on Leonard at WW. I don't think he gives up anything to Robinson at welterweight when it comes to boxing ability and toughness.

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    Default Re: The best fighters alltime in every weight class

    201+ Heavyweight- Muhammad Ali
    200 Cruiserweight- Evander Holyfield
    175 Light Heavyweight- Gene Tunney
    168 Super Middleweight- Joe Cazaghe
    160 Middleweight- Marvin Hagler
    154 Light Middleweight- Terry Norris
    147 Welterweight- Ray Robinson
    140 Light Welterweight- Aaron Pryor
    135 Lightweight- Roberto Duran
    130 Super Featherweight- Floyd Mayweather
    126 Featherweight- Salvador Sanchez
    122 Super Bantamweight- Wilfredo Sanchez
    118 Bantamweight- Ruben Olivares
    115 Super Flyweight- Khaosai Galaxy
    112 Flyweight- Jimmy Wilde

    The other two divisions I don't follow.

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    Default Re: The all-time best fighters in every weight class

    Heavyweight - Muhammad Ali
    Cruiserweight - Evander Holyfield
    Light Heavyweight - Archie Moore
    Supper Middleweight - Joe Calzaghe
    Middleweight - Marvin Hagler
    Junior Middleweight - Thomas Hearns
    Welterweight - Sugar Ray Robinson
    Junior Welterweight - Julio Cesar Chavez
    Lightweight - Roberto Duran
    Junior Lightweight - Alexis Arguello
    Featherweight - Willie Pep
    Junior Featherweight - Wilfredo Gomez
    Bantamweight - Carlos Zarate
    Junior Bantamweight - Khaosai Galaxy
    Flyweight - Jimmy Wilde
    Junior Flyweight - Michael Carbajal
    Minimumweight - Ricardo Lopez

    Other fighters that I wanted to include in the list:

    Joe Louis
    Ezzard Charles
    Carlos Monzon
    Harry Greb
    Henry Armstrong
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Aaron Pryor
    Miguel Canto
    Eder Jofre

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    Default Re: The all-time best fighters in every weight class

    Heavyweight - Joe Louis
    Cruiserweight - Rocky Marciano
    Light Heavyweight - Ezzard Charles
    Super Middleweight - Sam Langford
    Middleweight - Marvin Hagler
    Junior Middleweight - Thomas Hearns
    Welterweight - Sugar Ray Robinson
    Junior Welterweight - Julio Cesar Chavez
    Lightweight - Roberto Duran
    Junior Lightweight - Alexis Arguello
    Featherweight - Willie Pep
    Junior Featherweight - Wilfredo Gomez
    Bantamweight - Carlos Zarate
    Junior Bantamweight - Khaosai Galaxy
    Flyweight - Jimmy Wilde
    Junior Flyweight - Michael Carbajal
    Minimumweight - Ricardo Lopez
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