Kelly Pavlik not a fan of Showtime Super-Six

[Spicoli]

Sounds like he knows that he missed the bus.I have some issues with the timeline on the tourney but bottom line is it puts a rising division in the spotlight not to mention some top boxers.Nothing wrong with that and I'm leaning more towards Showtime lately over HBO.

Pavlik needs to move up.

[armin]

As others have said one thing I really liked about pavlik was his humility, before the miranda fight, miranda was doing a shit ton of trash talk, and kelly was just quiet and all about letting his fists do the talking. Then somewhere along the way he changed talking about he's going to knock hopkins out and shit, he should just go back to being the quiet man who focuses on shit in the ring, it obviously got him more success.

[boozeboxer]

Pavlik is a wimp. I know DeanRw likes him, but i don't see how?!


I have always wanted to see him defeated, and in addition to a 4o-some-year-old man...he is defeating himself with booze and his attitude.

[boozeboxer]

As others have said one thing I really liked about pavlik was his humility, before the miranda fight, miranda was doing a shit ton of trash talk, and kelly was just quiet and all about letting his fists do the talking. Then somewhere along the way he changed talking about he's going to knock hopkins out and shit, he should just go back to being the quiet man who focuses on shit in the ring, it obviously got him more success.

humility didn't get him success..... fighting people that couldnt box like B-hop did.

[LEGION]

As others have said one thing I really liked about pavlik was his humility, before the miranda fight, miranda was doing a shit ton of trash talk, and kelly was just quiet and all about letting his fists do the talking. Then somewhere along the way he changed talking about he's going to knock hopkins out and shit, he should just go back to being the quiet man who focuses on shit in the ring, it obviously got him more success.

humility didn't get him success..... fighting people that couldnt box like B-hop did.

Boozeboxer doing right now what he's doing in his avatar

[boozeboxer]

As others have said one thing I really liked about pavlik was his humility, before the miranda fight, miranda was doing a shit ton of trash talk, and kelly was just quiet and all about letting his fists do the talking. Then somewhere along the way he changed talking about he's going to knock hopkins out and shit, he should just go back to being the quiet man who focuses on shit in the ring, it obviously got him more success.

humility didn't get him success..... fighting people that couldnt box like B-hop did.

Boozeboxer doing right now what he's doing in his avatar

being awesome?

[CFH]

As others have said one thing I really liked about pavlik was his humility, before the miranda fight, miranda was doing a shit ton of trash talk, and kelly was just quiet and all about letting his fists do the talking. Then somewhere along the way he changed talking about he's going to knock hopkins out and shit, he should just go back to being the quiet man who focuses on shit in the ring, it obviously got him more success.

humility didn't get him success..... fighting people that couldnt box like B-hop did.

Boozeboxer doing right now what he's doing in his avatar

Trying desperately to hide his homosexuality?

[Gandalf]

humility didn't get him success..... fighting people that couldnt box like B-hop did.

Boozeboxer doing right now what he's doing in his avatar

Trying desperately to hide his homosexuality?

Nigh on impossible!

[The Fightfan]

Maybe he is a little pissed off saying that he never was asked. Maybe he really did want to participate and Showtime didn't even think of putting Kelly in the tournament. I couldn't see why anyone would disagree with this tournament. The last big thing that happend like this was back in the seventies in the heavyweight division. From what I am told it was incredible.

[cpcompany]

Maybe he is a little pissed off saying that he never was asked. Maybe he really did want to participate and Showtime didn't even think of putting Kelly in the tournament. I couldn't see why anyone would disagree with this tournament. The last big thing that happend like this was back in the seventies in the heavyweight division. From what I am told it was incredible.

Its possible that due to Pavlik's recent problems that Showtime thought he was too much of a risk/liability.

[DaxxKahn]

Not sure what is going through Pavliks head other then the sound of Hopkins Gloves still pounding his head and some grain alcholol..

This is a great idea...the payday may be smaller but the idea of one champion will bring the winner much larger paydays and exposure for those who participate

[LEGION]

Maybe he is a little pissed off saying that he never was asked. Maybe he really did want to participate and Showtime didn't even think of putting Kelly in the tournament. I couldn't see why anyone would disagree with this tournament. The last big thing that happend like this was back in the seventies in the heavyweight division. From what I am told it was incredible.

Its possible that due to Pavlik's recent problems that Showtime thought he was too much of a risk/liability.

Can someone tell me how it would have worked if by chance Showtyme had wanted Pavlik to participate? He's with HBO so how does that work out with conflicting companies? Would he have been able to participate? Aren't a couple of guys in the tournament HBO guys like Ward and Direll

And is this stuff coming from Pavlik more HBO induced verbiage and less Pavlik talking? I'm not implying that HBO necessarily told him to say this stuff so much as Pavlik just saying what his mothership would like him to say and trying to take shots at Showtyme.

[HattonTheHammer]

Maybe he is a little pissed off saying that he never was asked. Maybe he really did want to participate and Showtime didn't even think of putting Kelly in the tournament. I couldn't see why anyone would disagree with this tournament. The last big thing that happend like this was back in the seventies in the heavyweight division. From what I am told it was incredible.

Its possible that due to Pavlik's recent problems that Showtime thought he was too much of a risk/liability.

dunno bout that

kelly would of been the biggest draw in the tournament.

I dont dislike the idea of a league based tournament and no doubt the concept will pull in a few extra viewers.

But why over a 2year period? potential great fights like pavlik-kessler, abraham-sturm, froch-bute etc are no well and truly dead in the water and i fear we are now going to get a pavlik, bute, williams triangle of matches as we did with oscar-mosley-vargas-winky

[JazMerkin]

Pavlik wants no part of the tournament because since the Taylor fight, he seems to have been keen on not stretching himself. That might be Arum & Dunkin's doing, but the fact is he's been keen to avoid Abraham, & I think they only went for Hopkins because they saw him as finished & an easy name to get on his record. If he had won that his drawing power would have been great, but he didn't & the best money option he has now is Sturm for $2m on HBO. I personally I think the length is good, gives the guys enough time to recover between fights even if its a gruelling one & I don't see anyone bar Taylor maybe dropping out. Don't see any bigger fights, & by the time the winner is anointed I reckon Daniel Jacobs will be the MW champ of the world.

[Lance Uppercut]

Kelly Pavlik has criticized the fighters taking part in the Showtime tournament saying that they're 'ruining their careers for peanuts' & how 'no-one watches Showtime, all the big fighters are on HBO'.

Kelly Pavlik Blasts The Super Middleweight Tourney - Boxing News

I don't know about anyone else, but this has seriously put me off Pavlik, it's very bitter & he describes the winner getting $4m (in addition to signing fees I've heard rated at $1.25m each) as nothing. He seems to ignore that this is good for boxing, rather focusing on 'PPV draws' which he simply is not. I'm really hoping this tournament can crown a boxing star for the future, which is partly why I hope Dirrell wins. Pavlik is in what is fast becoming a dead division & has not beaten anything higher than a D-level opponents since Taylor, yet he goes at these guys??

A lot of Pavlik's behaviour recently has put me off him. The Mora contract thing was messed up & now he's criticizing the guys who are willing to put their records on the line.

Pavlik is bitter because he no longer has any big money fights. He has ducked Abraham for the past 2 years, with the belief that his big money show down would always be there, when HBO go sick of him milking them for easy money. Now that Abraham is tied up for 2 years(in an awesome tournament), Pavlik has nothing to cash in and is SOL.