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wouldn't you say that he stayed longer then he should have? Wasn't it then that he lost to the competition?Originally Posted by Starr
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wouldn't you say that he stayed longer then he should have? Wasn't it then that he lost to the competition?Originally Posted by Starr
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
he lost to bowe twice and moore once...IN HIS PRIME
he wasnt even the best heavyweight when he was in his prime, and just because he continued to fight and get beat by nobodies is a moot point because if that were true then he had a very short "prime" period.
again, starr................not saying he wasnt a good and entertaining fighter, but he was VERY far from being considered an all time great
time will tell on these two...what lacy does after the Calzaghe fight will be his path and once Valuev fights real hw champs he will be in deep water....Originally Posted by Hitman Fan
It feels good to be back home.
people think zab sucks, so he isnt even a candidate,Originally Posted by gbrandon
ODH lost all his fights with people who were all time greats in thier prime, and people say he is top 10 ww/lw all time
names Sal....gimme some names...don't even try the Trinidad bs...you know ODLH won that one....who else....Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
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trinidad is one dimentionalOriginally Posted by bigragu
b-hop and mosley
he also made a name for himself beating up on old man chavez
riddick bowe
okay.................as long as you acknowledge that evander was even more over-rated, seeing as how riddick OWNS evanderOriginally Posted by The_One77
PBF. Great fighter but he has fought had picked guys whos styles work in his favor. He hasnt impressed me since he moved to 140. Bring on the sad clicks
Psalm 144: Blessed be the LORD my Rock, who trains my hands for war, and my fingers for battle
evander did however beat riddick and in the third fight he was suffering from hepatitis...so..for evander not to be a natural HW he was damn good..and just had problems with larger guys...bowe,lewis..(although i think prime evander kicks lennox's ass) he was the second HW to win the HW weight crown three times..the first to win it 4 times..so there's no way in hell that evander is overrated...In fact Evander need to have a HW training camp so he teach these pucci heavyweights now how not to be scared of getting into a fight...Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
but IMO most overrated
Vargas, ODH, TYSON
"Sixty forty I kicks yo' ass, Sixty forty I tears yo' ass up" - Roy Jones
How can anyone consider Bowe a great fighter, the guy was a coward and ducked Lewis like the plague..Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
He had one good fight in his career and that was against a small evander, he lost the rematch, and beat Evander for the second time when he had hepatitus.
The guy got his ass whooped by that bum Golota twice....
and who did evander win the belts from??Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
he finished his career something like 38-8-2
with some losses to subpar fighters
he had trouble with bigger guyswell thats something that a HEAVYweight needs to get over in order to be considered even remotely great
but outside of that, i do agree with the majority of your posts that i have seen before i got up in this forum
Well he got the first crown from douglass(1), who just kicked tyson's ass, then lost it to bowe only to regain it from bowe(2), then lost to moore and got it back from Tyson (3), then lost to lewis and got a portion from john ruiz (4)...also 5 of his eight losses came after his 37th birthday...oh did I mention he started his career at light heavy....Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
"Sixty forty I kicks yo' ass, Sixty forty I tears yo' ass up" - Roy Jones
Originally Posted by gbrandon
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okay..............youre saying that evander is an all time great because he beat buster douglass.......bowe 1 out of 3 times (hepatitis or not), a post prison tyson (a mere shell of what he once was) and the legendary john ruiz 1 out of 3 times..Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
and 37 isnt really all that old for a heavyweight
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