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    Default Re: Who's the most overated fighter of all time

    [quote=frozensolid_702 ]
    Quote Originally Posted by Starr
    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
    EVANDER HOLYFIELD
    Why?

    he lost to a lot of weak competition..........im not saying he was a terrible fighter or anything, he just got beat a lot and i have heard people regard him as one of the best of all time
    wouldn't you say that he stayed longer then he should have? Wasn't it then that he lost to the competition?

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    Default Re: Who's the most overated fighter of all time

    [quote=Starr ]
    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
    Quote Originally Posted by Starr
    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
    EVANDER HOLYFIELD
    Why?

    he lost to a lot of weak competition..........im not saying he was a terrible fighter or anything, he just got beat a lot and i have heard people regard him as one of the best of all time
    wouldn't you say that he stayed longer then he should have? Wasn't it then that he lost to the competition?

    he lost to bowe twice and moore once...IN HIS PRIME
    he wasnt even the best heavyweight when he was in his prime, and just because he continued to fight and get beat by nobodies is a moot point because if that were true then he had a very short "prime" period.
    again, starr................not saying he wasnt a good and entertaining fighter, but he was VERY far from being considered an all time great



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    Default Re: Who's the most overated fighter of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman Fan
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    time will tell on these two...what lacy does after the Calzaghe fight will be his path and once Valuev fights real hw champs he will be in deep water....
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    Default Re: Who's the most overated fighter of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by gbrandon
    Quote Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
    its probably ODH
    I have read your post before, and I am just waiting for somebody to say Zab so you can explode.
    people think zab sucks, so he isnt even a candidate,

    ODH lost all his fights with people who were all time greats in thier prime, and people say he is top 10 ww/lw all time

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    Default Re: Who's the most overated fighter of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
    Quote Originally Posted by gbrandon
    Quote Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
    its probably ODH
    I have read your post before, and I am just waiting for somebody to say Zab so you can explode.
    people think zab sucks, so he isnt even a candidate,

    ODH lost all his fights with people who were all time greats in thier prime, and people say he is top 10 ww/lw all time
    names Sal....gimme some names...don't even try the Trinidad bs...you know ODLH won that one....who else....
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    Default Re: Who's the most overated fighter of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by bigragu
    Quote Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
    Quote Originally Posted by gbrandon
    Quote Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
    its probably ODH
    I have read your post before, and I am just waiting for somebody to say Zab so you can explode.
    people think zab sucks, so he isnt even a candidate,

    ODH lost all his fights with people who were all time greats in thier prime, and people say he is top 10 ww/lw all time
    names Sal....gimme some names...don't even try the Trinidad bs...you know ODLH won that one....who else....
    trinidad is one dimentional
    b-hop and mosley

    he also made a name for himself beating up on old man chavez

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    Default Re: Who's the most overated fighter of all time

    riddick bowe

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    Default Re: Who's the most overated fighter of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by The_One77
    riddick bowe
    okay.................as long as you acknowledge that evander was even more over-rated, seeing as how riddick OWNS evander

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    PBF. Great fighter but he has fought had picked guys whos styles work in his favor. He hasnt impressed me since he moved to 140. Bring on the sad clicks
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    Default Re: Who's the most overated fighter of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
    Quote Originally Posted by The_One77
    riddick bowe
    okay.................as long as you acknowledge that evander was even more over-rated, seeing as how riddick OWNS evander
    evander did however beat riddick and in the third fight he was suffering from hepatitis...so..for evander not to be a natural HW he was damn good..and just had problems with larger guys...bowe,lewis..(although i think prime evander kicks lennox's ass) he was the second HW to win the HW weight crown three times..the first to win it 4 times..so there's no way in hell that evander is overrated...In fact Evander need to have a HW training camp so he teach these pucci heavyweights now how not to be scared of getting into a fight...

    but IMO most overrated

    Vargas, ODH, TYSON
    "Sixty forty I kicks yo' ass, Sixty forty I tears yo' ass up" - Roy Jones

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    Default Re: Who's the most overated fighter of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
    Quote Originally Posted by The_One77
    riddick bowe
    okay.................as long as you acknowledge that evander was even more over-rated, seeing as how riddick OWNS evander
    How can anyone consider Bowe a great fighter, the guy was a coward and ducked Lewis like the plague..
    He had one good fight in his career and that was against a small evander, he lost the rematch, and beat Evander for the second time when he had hepatitus.
    The guy got his ass whooped by that bum Golota twice....

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    Default Re: Who's the most overated fighter of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
    Quote Originally Posted by The_One77
    riddick bowe
    okay.................as long as you acknowledge that evander was even more over-rated, seeing as how riddick OWNS evander
    evander did however beat riddick and in the third fight he was suffering from hepatitis...so..for evander not to be a natural HW he was damn good..and just had problems with larger guys...bowe,lewis..(although i think prime evander kicks lennox's a**) he was the second HW to win the HW weight crown three times..the first to win it 4 times..so there's no way in hell that evander is overrated...In fact Evander need to have a HW training camp so he teach these pucci heavyweights now how not to be scared of getting into a fight...

    but IMO most overrated

    Vargas, ODH, TYSON
    and who did evander win the belts from??
    he finished his career something like 38-8-2
    with some losses to subpar fighters
    he had trouble with bigger guys well thats something that a HEAVYweight needs to get over in order to be considered even remotely great
    but outside of that, i do agree with the majority of your posts that i have seen before i got up in this forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
    Quote Originally Posted by The_One77
    riddick bowe
    okay.................as long as you acknowledge that evander was even more over-rated, seeing as how riddick OWNS evander
    evander did however beat riddick and in the third fight he was suffering from hepatitis...so..for evander not to be a natural HW he was damn good..and just had problems with larger guys...bowe,lewis..(although i think prime evander kicks lennox's a**) he was the second HW to win the HW weight crown three times..the first to win it 4 times..so there's no way in hell that evander is overrated...In fact Evander need to have a HW training camp so he teach these pucci heavyweights now how not to be scared of getting into a fight...

    but IMO most overrated

    Vargas, ODH, TYSON
    and who did evander win the belts from??
    he finished his career something like 38-8-2
    with some losses to subpar fighters
    he had trouble with bigger guys well thats something that a HEAVYweight needs to get over in order to be considered even remotely great
    but outside of that, i do agree with the majority of your posts that i have seen before i got up in this forum
    Well he got the first crown from douglass(1), who just kicked tyson's ass, then lost it to bowe only to regain it from bowe(2), then lost to moore and got it back from Tyson (3), then lost to lewis and got a portion from john ruiz (4)...also 5 of his eight losses came after his 37th birthday...oh did I mention he started his career at light heavy....
    "Sixty forty I kicks yo' ass, Sixty forty I tears yo' ass up" - Roy Jones

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    Default Re: Who's the most overated fighter of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by gbrandon
    Quote Originally Posted by B@rr3r@
    How can anyone who has been a World Champion be "Over-Rated".

    You go into a sport aiming to be the best a "World Champion" if you succeed you are not "Over-Rated"...

    Seriously some of you guys ask so much from these men, It makes me wonder if you actua.lly think they should die in the ring just to please you?
    I can see that debating with you is going to be difficult because we have to break it down in elementary terms for you. Let me give you a basketball analogy.
    Many people believe that Micheal Jordan is the greatest basketball player of all time. When he retired the first time Scottie Pippen (His sidekick) tookover the main role as team leader. People put him on the same level with Micheal Jordan thinking he would duplicate the same success, he didn't. So people screamed that he was over rated. Does not mean that he was a bum, it does not mean he was not successful (Great Player) it means that people expected more out of him than he produced. That is what overated is. Champions can be overated, it does not mean that they are not successful.

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    Default Re: Who's the most overated fighter of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
    Quote Originally Posted by The_One77
    riddick bowe
    okay.................as long as you acknowledge that evander was even more over-rated, seeing as how riddick OWNS evander
    evander did however beat riddick and in the third fight he was suffering from hepatitis...so..for evander not to be a natural HW he was damn good..and just had problems with larger guys...bowe,lewis..(although i think prime evander kicks lennox's a**) he was the second HW to win the HW weight crown three times..the first to win it 4 times..so there's no way in hell that evander is overrated...In fact Evander need to have a HW training camp so he teach these pucci heavyweights now how not to be scared of getting into a fight...

    but IMO most overrated

    Vargas, ODH, TYSON
    and who did evander win the belts from??
    he finished his career something like 38-8-2
    with some losses to subpar fighters
    he had trouble with bigger guys well thats something that a HEAVYweight needs to get over in order to be considered even remotely great
    but outside of that, i do agree with the majority of your posts that i have seen before i got up in this forum
    Well he got the first crown from douglass(1), who just kicked tyson's a**, then lost it to bowe only to regain it from bowe(2), then lost to moore and got it back from Tyson (3), then lost to lewis and got a portion from john ruiz (4)...also 5 of his eight losses came after his 37th birthday...oh did I mention he started his career at light heavy....
    okay..............youre saying that evander is an all time great because he beat buster douglass.......bowe 1 out of 3 times (hepatitis or not), a post prison tyson (a mere shell of what he once was) and the legendary john ruiz 1 out of 3 times..
    and 37 isnt really all that old for a heavyweight

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