What do you think Mayweather weighed on fight night ?

[BIG H]

Are you kidding me? What evidence was there that Mayweather was bigger than he used to be? There is no way he was even 155. He isn't a natural WW. The most he puts on for a fight is 6 pounds, and that was back at 130. He probably came in at 150-152. He's bigger than Manny and Marquez, but not by much, and he certainly is a lot smaller than Mosley or Margarito or Cotto, the same amount smaller than them as Marquez is smaller than Floyd. 155 would be the absolute most he could have weighed, and he didn't use size at all against Marquez. It was all speed and defensive skill.

I really don't get this "he isn't even a WW" business. Mayweather previously might have been a smaller sized WW, but he has come back a fully fledged one. He is bigger and carrying more weight and that's why he wouldn't reveal his fight night weight because it would have made a further mockery of what took place.

Mayweather might have been at smaller weights when he was younger but as he has matured so has his body. He is now a 32 year old I'm pretty sure he is at WW or LMW until the end now.

Spot on fella

[blegit]

I'm no PBF fan but I know what I see and I refuse to say other than what I see or at least what I truly believe I saw. I think PBF weighed around 155. He did not look a lot bigger than Marquez as some people keep exaggerating. No way would he have been that much quicker and sharper than Marquez had he weighed much more. PBF didn't even use size against Marquez. He let Marquez back him up and he hit and not got hit all night. Who would've have said DLH was too big against Pac if DLH would've beat Pac in the manner PBF beat Marquez? PBF was simply faster, quicker, sharper, and a much better mover than the smaller guy. He was suppose to win but he wasn't suppose to win that easy in that manner when he was the bigger guy. Lets be honest about how PBF won the fight. He won every minute of the fight due to speed and timing. Not because he was bigger. Nice tune up, now PBF needs to fight 2 of the 3... Pac, Cotto, and/or Mosley.

[killersheep]

Floyd looked bigger because JMM has a smaller head than his other recent opponents like ODLH, Baldomir, Hatton etc.

[Fenster]

Marquez thought he was 20 pound bigger.

[Rantcatrat]

Are you kidding me? What evidence was there that Mayweather was bigger than he used to be? There is no way he was even 155. He isn't a natural WW. The most he puts on for a fight is 6 pounds, and that was back at 130. He probably came in at 150-152. He's bigger than Manny and Marquez, but not by much, and he certainly is a lot smaller than Mosley or Margarito or Cotto, the same amount smaller than them as Marquez is smaller than Floyd. 155 would be the absolute most he could have weighed, and he didn't use size at all against Marquez. It was all speed and defensive skill.

There was a big size difference in the ring. Watch the fight again. There isn't only one way to use size as an advantage. Floyd doesn't use his size like Vitali or Vlad use their size, but size played a big role in that fight, it just wasn't his, it was Marquez's size. Marquez was too small to get anywhere near Floyd. Why was DLH much more effective against Floyd?

Why couldn't Floyd meet the contracted weight of 144 if he isn't a natural welterweight?

Why has Floyd fought at the welterweight limit for the last five years if he is a natural junior welterweight?

[Julius Rain]

Are you kidding me? What evidence was there that Mayweather was bigger than he used to be? There is no way he was even 155. He isn't a natural WW. The most he puts on for a fight is 6 pounds, and that was back at 130. He probably came in at 150-152. He's bigger than Manny and Marquez, but not by much, and he certainly is a lot smaller than Mosley or Margarito or Cotto, the same amount smaller than them as Marquez is smaller than Floyd. 155 would be the absolute most he could have weighed, and he didn't use size at all against Marquez. It was all speed and defensive skill.

There was a big size difference in the ring. Watch the fight again. There isn't only one way to use size as an advantage. Floyd doesn't use his size like Vitali or Vlad use their size, but size played a big role in that fight, it just wasn't his, it was Marquez's size. Marquez was too small to get anywhere near Floyd. Why was DLH much more effective against Floyd?

Why couldn't Floyd meet the contracted weight of 144 if he isn't a natural welterweight?

Why has Floyd fought at the welterweight limit for the last five years if he is a natural junior welterweight?

Yea i dont think anybody is buying the bs teath and other floyd fans are saying that floyds not a natural welterweight. That Foo is a natural welterweight. JMM and Pac aren't, now those two really aren't natural welterweights.

Imagine how long has it been since floyd fought at 135, JMMs last fight was at 135 less than a year ago. JMM would of been stopped by other welterweights.

[uptoscratch]

Yea i dont think anybody is buying the bs teath and other floyd fans are saying that floyds not a natural welterweight. That Foo is a natural welterweight. JMM and Pac aren't, now those two really aren't natural welterweights.

Imagine how long has it been since floyd fought at 135, JMMs last fight was at 135 less than a year ago. JMM would of been stopped by other welterweights.

I saw Doug Fischer making the same stupid argument on his blog. Floyd's critics are so eager to downplay his win that they are making mutually exclusive arguments -- either Floyd should have knocked out Marquez, or he was so much bigger that Marquez had no chance. But it can't be both.

Floyd (you say) is a full-size, natural welterweight. Any other welterweight (you say) would have knocked Marquez out.

But the fact is, Floyd landed almost 60 percent of 177 power punches on Marquez. There's no way any average welter was going to land more than that. Mayweather, a "full-size" welterweight, couldn't knock him out despite landing more punches on him than has ever been landed on Juan Manuel Marquez in a prizefight.

There are only two valid conclusions: 1: Marquez is just a tough SOB who wasn't going down to anyone that night, or 2: the size and strength matchup was closer than Floyd's critics have portrayed.

Anyone that is trying to have it both ways just reveals their biases.

[JonnyFolds]

Are you kidding me? What evidence was there that Mayweather was bigger than he used to be? There is no way he was even 155. He isn't a natural WW. The most he puts on for a fight is 6 pounds, and that was back at 130. He probably came in at 150-152. He's bigger than Manny and Marquez, but not by much, and he certainly is a lot smaller than Mosley or Margarito or Cotto, the same amount smaller than them as Marquez is smaller than Floyd. 155 would be the absolute most he could have weighed, and he didn't use size at all against Marquez. It was all speed and defensive skill.

So you are probably under the belief that Hopkins is gonna get back down to MW and go for another 20 title defenses? Mayweather cannot get back down to LWW. Why did he get Hatton to come up to 147 if he can still make 130?

6 pounds yeah right! He's a professional fighter. They live and die on the scales. All that shit is unofficial anyway.

[Taeth]

Are you kidding me? What evidence was there that Mayweather was bigger than he used to be? There is no way he was even 155. He isn't a natural WW. The most he puts on for a fight is 6 pounds, and that was back at 130. He probably came in at 150-152. He's bigger than Manny and Marquez, but not by much, and he certainly is a lot smaller than Mosley or Margarito or Cotto, the same amount smaller than them as Marquez is smaller than Floyd. 155 would be the absolute most he could have weighed, and he didn't use size at all against Marquez. It was all speed and defensive skill.

I really don't get this "he isn't even a WW" business. Mayweather previously might have been a smaller sized WW, but he has come back a fully fledged one. He is bigger and carrying more weight and that's why he wouldn't reveal his fight night weight because it would have made a further mockery of what took place.

Mayweather might have been at smaller weights when he was younger but as he has matured so has his body. He is now a 32 year old I'm pretty sure he is at WW or LMW until the end now.

Age doesn't mean anything. Look how long Hopkins stayed at middleweight and didn't balloon up in the 24 hours from the weigh-in to the fight.

Floyd's dad said that Floyd didn't try to cut weight at all, which means that without too much of a work out he was pretty close to 147. Floyd weighed 160 with all his clothes and bling on when he had that stupid fight with the BIg SHow, thats walking around weight, When he is in true fighting shape he would be 10 pounds lighter.

The reason Mayweather looks bigger is because the last time he actually weighed more than an opponent coming into the ring was way back when he fought Demarcus Corley, and before that it was his 27th career fight against Jesus Chavez.

I saw them at the fight, in the ring, and besides height Mayweather wasn't that much bigger at all. He just looked taller, and more ripped but they're actual size seemed pretty similar. The reason Mayweather would look more ripped is simple, he does weights in the gym, that targets specific muscle groups where as more oldschool working out like what MArquez does usually doesn't build the same look of muscle, but it can be as effective pratically and in terms of mass put on. Mayweather wasn't any bigger than he was against Hatton or Baldomir, and he definitely wasn't as big as when he fought Oscar at 154. Appearances can be deceiving, and Marquez being so short and not offensive(even though he tried but Mayweather was too fleet of foot) made Marquez look all the smaller.

Look at Cotto, Mosley, Margarito, Clottey... they are way thicker than Mayweather, they are way bigger than him, and they weigh in at 160ish. I mean look at MAyweather against Baldomir, he's about Cotto's size, and he looked way thicker than Floyd.

I am not going to argue that Mayweather isn't bigger than when he was at 130 or 135, but he isn't a natural welterweight, he's way smaller than the other top guys in the division, and you will see that if Cotto wins or he ends up fighting Mosley, he will be as much smaller than Mosley as he was bigger than Marquez.... if he's lucky.

[jahmez]

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[Rantcatrat]

Yea i dont think anybody is buying the bs teath and other floyd fans are saying that floyds not a natural welterweight. That Foo is a natural welterweight. JMM and Pac aren't, now those two really aren't natural welterweights.

Imagine how long has it been since floyd fought at 135, JMMs last fight was at 135 less than a year ago. JMM would of been stopped by other welterweights.

I saw Doug Fischer making the same stupid argument on his blog. Floyd's critics are so eager to downplay his win that they are making mutually exclusive arguments -- either Floyd should have knocked out Marquez, or he was so much bigger that Marquez had no chance. But it can't be both.

Floyd (you say) is a full-size, natural welterweight. Any other welterweight (you say) would have knocked Marquez out.

But the fact is, Floyd landed almost 60 percent of 177 power punches on Marquez. There's no way any average welter was going to land more than that. Mayweather, a "full-size" welterweight, couldn't knock him out despite landing more punches on him than has ever been landed on Juan Manuel Marquez in a prizefight.

There are only two valid conclusions: 1: Marquez is just a tough SOB who wasn't going down to anyone that night, or 2: the size and strength matchup was closer than Floyd's critics have portrayed.

Anyone that is trying to have it both ways just reveals their biases.

At the end of the day, Floyd is great, there is no doubt about it. However, I speak for myself and a lot of other boxing fans who believe it is not too much to ask that the p4p #1 boxer should act like one. This means overcoming physical disadvantages in the ring rather than have the physical advantages in the ring. This means unifying titles in divisions. This means beating other p4p fighters in their prime. Boxing at its best is like a battle in war in that it requires overcoming the odds and rising above adversity to win. When winning is expected, when the match isn't a challenge anymore, when there isn't a shred of vulnerability, boxing loses some of its luster. Pacquiao is held in such high esteem because for the last three fights he has come into the fights at a physical disadvantage...and prevailed. That is why he is adored and why he will continue to be adored, even if he loses.

[uptoscratch]

Pacquiao is held in such high esteem because for the last three fights he has come into the fights at a physical disadvantage...and prevailed. That is why he is adored and why he will continue to be adored, even if he loses.

I have to question the lucidity of anyone who thought Manny was at a physical disadvantage in his fight with Oscar, who was so drained that he came off the unofficial scales weighing less than Manny, if you recall.

I don't know where the idea comes from that being a PFP great means you can only fight men who are bigger than you. Sugar Ray Robinson fought some guys that were bigger and some that were smaller than him.

Both Floyd against Marquez and Pac against De La Hoya enjoyed significant physical advantages. Even accounting for those advantages, they both dominated world-class opposition in impressive, skillful fashion -- that's what being a PFP great means.

[Gandalf]

Are you kidding me? What evidence was there that Mayweather was bigger than he used to be? There is no way he was even 155. He isn't a natural WW. The most he puts on for a fight is 6 pounds, and that was back at 130. He probably came in at 150-152. He's bigger than Manny and Marquez, but not by much, and he certainly is a lot smaller than Mosley or Margarito or Cotto, the same amount smaller than them as Marquez is smaller than Floyd. 155 would be the absolute most he could have weighed, and he didn't use size at all against Marquez. It was all speed and defensive skill.

I really don't get this "he isn't even a WW" business. Mayweather previously might have been a smaller sized WW, but he has come back a fully fledged one. He is bigger and carrying more weight and that's why he wouldn't reveal his fight night weight because it would have made a further mockery of what took place.

Mayweather might have been at smaller weights when he was younger but as he has matured so has his body. He is now a 32 year old I'm pretty sure he is at WW or LMW until the end now.

Age doesn't mean anything. Look how long Hopkins stayed at middleweight and didn't balloon up in the 24 hours from the weigh-in to the fight.

Floyd's dad said that Floyd didn't try to cut weight at all, which means that without too much of a work out he was pretty close to 147. Floyd weighed 160 with all his clothes and bling on when he had that stupid fight with the BIg SHow, thats walking around weight, When he is in true fighting shape he would be 10 pounds lighter.

The reason Mayweather looks bigger is because the last time he actually weighed more than an opponent coming into the ring was way back when he fought Demarcus Corley, and before that it was his 27th career fight against Jesus Chavez.

I saw them at the fight, in the ring, and besides height Mayweather wasn't that much bigger at all. He just looked taller, and more ripped but they're actual size seemed pretty similar. The reason Mayweather would look more ripped is simple, he does weights in the gym, that targets specific muscle groups where as more oldschool working out like what MArquez does usually doesn't build the same look of muscle, but it can be as effective pratically and in terms of mass put on. Mayweather wasn't any bigger than he was against Hatton or Baldomir, and he definitely wasn't as big as when he fought Oscar at 154. Appearances can be deceiving, and Marquez being so short and not offensive(even though he tried but Mayweather was too fleet of foot) made Marquez look all the smaller.

Look at Cotto, Mosley, Margarito, Clottey... they are way thicker than Mayweather, they are way bigger than him, and they weigh in at 160ish. I mean look at MAyweather against Baldomir, he's about Cotto's size, and he looked way thicker than Floyd.

I am not going to argue that Mayweather isn't bigger than when he was at 130 or 135, but he isn't a natural welterweight, he's way smaller than the other top guys in the division, and you will see that if Cotto wins or he ends up fighting Mosley, he will be as much smaller than Mosley as he was bigger than Marquez.... if he's lucky.

Of course age means something. People get bigger as they get older. Retirement only advances the weight in the event of a comeback. Hopkins never retired but eats only carrots. He was able to postpone going up, but he will never fight at MW again. Just like Floyd will never fight below 147 again.

I like the way you made a lengthy post to say all that you did, but I am right and Mayweathers future career will prove me right. He is not a natural JWW anymore, he is a WW and that is something we would all like to see emerge. Forget the bullshit excuses such as Floyd started at 76 pounds, that is irrelevant and not anything meaningful for todays bouts.

Floyd is a WW, he just beat up on a LW and now it's time he fought another WW because a WW is what Floyd is as of now. Also, you should never believe Mayweather Snr. He is what is known as a piece of shit. And as you can tell now you should never trust Floyd either. He is a liar too.

But if you like their bodies, who am I to tell you otherwise?

[Taeth]

If Mayweather is a natural welterweight how come he had smaller biceps, chest, etc than Marquez? Marquez had an inch and a half on Mayweather in bicep. All Mayweather had was larger legs.

Look at the post fight interview, Max Kellerman is the same height as Shane Mosley, look how much taller he is than Mayweather. That's how tall the average welterweight is 5'9ish, and Mayweather isn't truely 5'8, He was barely taller than Hatton who is listed at 5'6 1/2.

If you read the ring magazine they put out for the fight, Shane MOsley states when they played basketball that Mayweather couldn't rebound against him because Shane was bigger and stronger.

Call Mayweather a natural WW if you want, but he will be outweighed by a good 5-10 pounds by the likes of Mosley, Margarito, Cotto, Berto, etc. He might not mind fighting at the weight, but if he is a natural welterweight, he is a very, very small welterweight who is smaller than many JWW.

Also the fact that Mayweather doesn't need to worry about what he eats, the fact he doesn't cut weight at all to make 147, and the fact he had to build up his body to fight at WW means that he is a smaller guy moving, and he always will be. He can add more muscle onto his frame, but his frame is still naturally not a WW frame. So yes he will continue to fight at WW, but in terms of size he is way smaller than Cotto or Mosley and you will see that should they ever fight.

[JonesJrMayweather]

If Mayweather is a natural welterweight how come he had smaller biceps, chest, etc than Marquez? Marquez had an inch and a half on Mayweather in bicep. All Mayweather had was larger legs.

Look at the post fight interview, Max Kellerman is the same height as Shane Mosley, look how much taller he is than Mayweather. That's how tall the average welterweight is 5'9ish, and Mayweather isn't truely 5'8, He was barely taller than Hatton who is listed at 5'6 1/2.

If you read the ring magazine they put out for the fight, Shane MOsley states when they played basketball that Mayweather couldn't rebound against him because Shane was bigger and stronger.

Call Mayweather a natural WW if you want, but he will be outweighed by a good 5-10 pounds by the likes of Mosley, Margarito, Cotto, Berto, etc. He might not mind fighting at the weight, but if he is a natural welterweight, he is a very, very small welterweight who is smaller than many JWW.

Also the fact that Mayweather doesn't need to worry about what he eats, the fact he doesn't cut weight at all to make 147, and the fact he had to build up his body to fight at WW means that he is a smaller guy moving, and he always will be. He can add more muscle onto his frame, but his frame is still naturally not a WW frame. So yes he will continue to fight at WW, but in terms of size he is way smaller than Cotto or Mosley and you will see that should they ever fight.

Floyd weighed 150 against oscar...and on the scales he was heavier than judah. It's possible that floyd weighed around 155-160 against marquez.

His legs were bigger? that's funny...do you know how much power comes from your legs? Marquez arms are shorter and he put on muscle to jump two weight classes of course the diameter of his bicep will be bulky compared to a leaned natural welter. That's why JMM looked so slow and bulky because he was. Why would the "money" man who admittedly says..."I fight for money, not bragging rights", easily concede 600k if he could have made 144? I'll tell you the same as everyone else has...

It's because now he's a true welter.