Someone told me that this was the first time that Emmanuel Stewards trainee didn't win
a title fight, Is that true?
Someone told me that this was the first time that Emmanuel Stewards trainee didn't win
a title fight, Is that true?
For every story told that divides us, I believe there are a thousand untold that unite us.
He was Hearns's trainer when he lost to Hagler I believe.Originally Posted by killersheep
Originally Posted by bleech1
tyvm
For every story told that divides us, I believe there are a thousand untold that unite us.
Wasn't Vivian Harris a champion when he got KO'D by Massau?? That was one of Manny's BoyzOriginally Posted by killersheep
Any fighter he trained, any fight?? Of course not..... Hearns would have lost several, Lennox Lewis, Wlad, I dunno im sure lots.
I think you're right about that one.....Originally Posted by bleech1
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Well Hilmer Kenty was the Kronk's (Steward's) first alphabet champ, he lost to Sean O'Grady in April 1981, four years before Hearns lost to Hagler, and five months before Tommy lost to Ray Leonard, in their Welterweight unification fight in September 1981.Originally Posted by killersheep
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Originally Posted by p4pking
Exactly I am racking my brain for the farthest one and you name off the obvious ones...
See what happens when you stare at a screen all day..![]()
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I have heard HBO say that he was somthing like 14-1 in heavyweight title fights before, but I am not certain.
He was also Hearns trainer when he lost to Leonard.
Manny MAY be undefeated as a trainer in Heavyweight title fights?
Lost to Rahaman one too.
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most recent loss would be Brewster when Wladimer fought him
Very true....perhaps it's while his fighter has the belt in which case Rahman was his only loss. The Wlad-Brewster fight was for the vacant WBO title
I think his question is for a fighter that was already established and Steward trained for the first time for a title fight, there has been a lot of them, Aron Pryor, Delahoya, Holyfield, Lennox Lewis to just name a few. Kenty, Hearns, Milton McCrory, Duane Johnson, Oba Carr ? , these are all fighters that Steward guided to world championships from the beginning. If that is the question, I don't know the answer.Originally Posted by bleech1
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