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    Someone told me that this was the first time that Emmanuel Stewards trainee didn't win
    a title fight, Is that true?
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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep
    Someone told me that this was the first time that Emmanuel Stewards trainee didn't win
    a title fight, Is that true?
    He was Hearns's trainer when he lost to Hagler I believe.

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    Default Re: Emmanuel Steward's first title non-victory

    Quote Originally Posted by bleech1
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep
    Someone told me that this was the first time that Emmanuel Stewards trainee didn't win
    a title fight, Is that true?
    He was Hearns's trainer when he lost to Hagler I believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep
    Someone told me that this was the first time that Emmanuel Stewards trainee didn't win
    a title fight, Is that true?
    Wasn't Vivian Harris a champion when he got KO'D by Massau?? That was one of Manny's Boyz

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    Any fighter he trained, any fight?? Of course not..... Hearns would have lost several, Lennox Lewis, Wlad, I dunno im sure lots.

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    Default Re: Emmanuel Steward's first title non-victory

    Quote Originally Posted by bleech1
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep
    Someone told me that this was the first time that Emmanuel Stewards trainee didn't win
    a title fight, Is that true?
    He was Hearns's trainer when he lost to Hagler I believe.
    I think you're right about that one.....
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    Default Re: Emmanuel Steward's first title non-victory

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep
    Quote Originally Posted by bleech1
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep
    Someone told me that this was the first time that Emmanuel Stewards trainee didn't win
    a title fight, Is that true?
    He was Hearns's trainer when he lost to Hagler I believe.
    tyvm
    Well Hilmer Kenty was the Kronk's (Steward's) first alphabet champ, he lost to Sean O'Grady in April 1981, four years before Hearns lost to Hagler, and five months before Tommy lost to Ray Leonard, in their Welterweight unification fight in September 1981.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking
    Any fighter he trained, any fight?? Of course not..... Hearns would have lost several, Lennox Lewis, Wlad, I dunno im sure lots.
    Exactly I am racking my brain for the farthest one and you name off the obvious ones...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Britkid
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep
    Quote Originally Posted by bleech1
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep
    Someone told me that this was the first time that Emmanuel Stewards trainee didn't win
    a title fight, Is that true?
    He was Hearns's trainer when he lost to Hagler I believe.
    tyvm
    Well Hilmer Kenty was the Kronk's (Steward's) first alphabet champ, he lost to Sean O'Grady in April 1981, four years before Hearns lost to Hagler, and five months before Tommy lost to Ray Leonard, in their Welterweight unification fight in September 1981.
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    Default Re: Emmanuel Steward's first title non-victory

    I have heard HBO say that he was somthing like 14-1 in heavyweight title fights before, but I am not certain.

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    He was also Hearns trainer when he lost to Leonard.

    Manny MAY be undefeated as a trainer in Heavyweight title fights?

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    Lost to Rahaman one too.
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    Default Re: Emmanuel Steward's first title non-victory

    most recent loss would be Brewster when Wladimer fought him

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    Default Re: Emmanuel Steward's first title non-victory

    Very true....perhaps it's while his fighter has the belt in which case Rahman was his only loss. The Wlad-Brewster fight was for the vacant WBO title

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    Default Re: Emmanuel Steward's first title non-victory

    Quote Originally Posted by bleech1
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep
    Someone told me that this was the first time that Emmanuel Stewards trainee didn't win
    a title fight, Is that true?
    He was Hearns's trainer when he lost to Hagler I believe.
    I think his question is for a fighter that was already established and Steward trained for the first time for a title fight, there has been a lot of them, Aron Pryor, Delahoya, Holyfield, Lennox Lewis to just name a few. Kenty, Hearns, Milton McCrory, Duane Johnson, Oba Carr ? , these are all fighters that Steward guided to world championships from the beginning. If that is the question, I don't know the answer.

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