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    Default Re: Pacfans - Why the "30 day" without test rule is BS!!

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    hahaha. same experience with me. my trainor was offering me some medicine that would give me more muscles. Good thing I did not take it because of my medical history. I don't know what it was but I guess it must be some steroids.

    Honestly, I'm ignorant as to these steroids thing.

    Will a drug testing after the fight still detect the use of PEDs?

    If the answer is yes, then why the random testing?

    Is it because ODLH might be scheming this issue so he can have reasons to fight again? I know he's wanting to go back to the ring. He'll have the proper excuse if he makes this issue bigger.

    Just my two cents.
    no testing after the fight will most likley be pointless, athletes / fighters dont take PED's for the event itself i.e the fight... they will nbe used during training so a greater benefitt can be gotten from that training , lower chance of small niggling injurys disrupting training patterns, quicker recovery etc etc
    how did you know about it Donny? Are you using PEDs too during your training? Is it legal to use it during training?

    common sense

    as for using - no

    as for it being legal during training ----- of course not !

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    Default Re: Pacfans - Why the "30 day" without test rule is BS!!

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    this issue has been beaten to death since this whole thing surface. quit making new threads about it. there is no compromise for this. and who the hell are we to impose to other people why this is bs and that random testing is right? DID ALL OF A SUDDEN SOME OF US BECAME DOCTORS AND STEROIDS EXPERTS? the fight is dead and you could blame either side to whose responsible for this fight not happening. i dont care anymore. i blame both sides. i blame floyd sr. for accusing pac without any proof and i blame pac for not proving himself. i say kill your pride pac. prove them wrong? but who am i to judge.. and also goes for whoever is reading this! who are you?
    Look, I'm not a fly-by Google search artist..I don't claim to be a steroid/medical expert, just someone who is not naive to the fact that PED use is rampant in top level sports.

    However, I was once naive...that ended when I was around 16-17 and got into a sport/entertainment where I told people my goals and was laughed at because I wanted to do it "naturally"

    I found out everyone I thought was natural in my club, wasn't.

    This prompted me into research and educating myself about them. Turns out, I didn't really feel that was where I wanted to go..but I also found out that there was a massive amount of naivity to PED's.

    I could reel off a few names of boxers who use PED's that you would ALL know...and not just accuseations. I've heard them talking about use, seen texts, etc

    The link I provided was purely for those stating that "Pac has agreed to the tests 1 day after the fight! So what is the problem, he would be found positive if he was using"

    It wasn't provided to come off as some expert...it was for the benefit of those who don't know detection times...but yeah I bet the keywords "PED testing" or "PED use" were definitely on Google Trends list this week.

    hahaha. same experience with me. my trainor was offering me some medicine that would give me more muscles. Good thing I did not take it because of my medical history. I don't know what it was but I guess it must be some steroids.

    Honestly, I'm ignorant as to these steroids thing.

    Will a drug testing after the fight still detect the use of PEDs?

    If the answer is yes, then why the random testing?

    Is it because ODLH might be scheming this issue so he can have reasons to fight again? I know he's wanting to go back to the ring. He'll have the proper excuse if he makes this issue bigger.

    Just my two cents.
    It depends what he is using brucelee. Check the link in my original post - It shows detection times of steroids. Some are out of your system in an hour so no, drug testing after a fight isn't necessarily a guarantee that he wasn't using.

    Hitmanhatton is actually right. They are used for the benefits you get while you're training. You carry those benefits into the ring with you even if the PEDs are no longer in your system.

    Anyway that link shows just the detection time for steroids - other PED's like EPO are out quickly too if checked for via urine.

    So, really random testing is the only way to go in order to make sure athletes are clean during training.

    This fight may still come off yet guys..there are new developments..

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