You heard it here first, Mosley will beat Floyd

[Taeth]

Shane Mosley WILL BEAT Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Shane's smart, he's strong, he has very quick hands, he's not killing himself to make weight, and Floyd can't hurt him.

I think Floyd has been apprehensive about fighting a couple guys at 147 and rightfully so in some cases: Cotto, Williams, Margarito, Shane Mosley, and Pacquiao. Now of course the Floyd fans will say Floyd has little left to prove and those fights didn't make sense etc etc but Floyd's record speaks for itself he never once said "Give me Cotto and I'll beat him" or "Give me Williams and I'll beat him" he simply waited until they lost and said "See, they weren't worthy of a shot vs me" and it doesn't make sense for Floyd not to fight when the money is to his liking. If he was truly "Money Mayweather" he would have fought at least 3 of those guys because you cannot tell me that ANY of those fights wouldn't have made HUGE money at the gate and on PPV.

Stylistically Floyd has very little to offer Shane, the guys who have beaten Shane either use their height and reach (Forrest & Wright) or are durable enough to trade with Shane and get the better of him (Miguel Cotto and to a lesser extent De la Hoya in the rematch was able to hang with him). Floyd has great defense but he isn't as effective until he gets a fighter to tire themself out, vs Judah and Hatton he allowed them to do work early and chase him around the ring while he pot shotted them for at least half the fight knowing especially that Zab would have 0 to offer him later in the fight and that's when Floyd turned it on....Shane doesn't have much in the defense department but he's strong and he's got fast DANGEROUS hands and he's going to beat Floyd.

I don't think that Shane won't be a problem for Mayweather, but not exactly for the reasons you've mentioned, and I don't think the reasons why Mosley had problems with other fighters is why Mayweather will trouble him so much.

First of all Mayweather is a much purer boxer than anyone Mosley has faced, even Winky Wright. Mosley has never experienced a guy who moves and boxes as well as Floyd. Second Floyd adjusts better than anyone Shane has been in there with. It's not just that Floyd's opponents tire in the late rounds because almost everyone does, but Floyd makes adjustments and he stays fresher than anyone else. I think this will remain true against Mosley who doesn't usually appear really sharp in the first place (I mean by this that he gets hit by shots early on as he does late). Also despite Floyd being smaller than Shane I think his style does pose similar issues that facing Vernon Forest and Winky WRight did for Shane. Though Floyd is smaller than Shane he is a more effective fighter on the outside. I think this gives Shane problems because as good as his chin is, he doesn't like to just walk in impose himself physically on guys which I think he could have even done to the bigger Wright and Forest, but also because he doesn't usually fully comit to coming forward we saw him being hit quite easily as he hesitated at the wrong moment. I think Shane did a better job of that against Collazo, but I honestly think that was only once Collazo hurt his left hand badly.

I do think Shane's physical abilities and his physical abilities alone will let him be competitive in this fight. I just have a hard time seeing him get the oppertunities to be effective simply because he doesn't have great outside game. Also one more problem I have always had with Shane is that he doesn't fight at the speed of his body. That's why I think we saw Winky beat him to the punch, Forest beat him to the punch, and Cotto beating him to the punch. I think Mosley moves incredibly fast and even has fast reflexes, but his timing is off and his intuitiveness defensively seems to be lacking for a guy of his talent, and maybe its because he has a choppy transition from defensive to offensive and vice virsa.

[JazMerkin]

SHut up mate! I don't feel your flow foo! Why don't you just chew up graham crackers till you choke on it coz i don't need to hear your opinion.
And what's the difference in calling pbf my nigga instead of nigger?! Is nigga more humiliating? So if i call a cop coppa instead of copper it would humiliate them more?!
It depends on how i talk it, idiot. The words don't matter. I be down with my nigga floyd and floyd will smash mosley. So am i discriminating floyd by saying my nigga? Nooooope. Actually i am down wit him. Ya dig? Foo.

Yeah, nice work on the Shaft impression. Who are you the Filippino Zelenoff?

As for the the bolded point, there is no difference, certainly not from a desperate virgin who's a confirmed Mayweather hater who is suddenly 'down' with PBF. You fucking retard

Yap. Hater jaz here doe'snt know crap about street talk mayne.

Yeah, I bet you live right in the heart of the ghetto

If you are ever in London, please feel free to come to my area, Lewisham, and show everyone about 'street talk'

Mad Takamura is banned from the thread

Proceed

Oh H, but why?? So what if he's the Pinoy Ali G, let him back in to 'skool' me on how things work 'in da ghetto'

[ICB]

Its a shame this fight couldn't of happened 10 years ago, or could you imagine this fight being at Lightweight with both men in there prime ?

[djcione]

IMO Lyle and the others predicting a Shane win are reading WAY too much into the Margarito performance. Margarito is so slow - Shane couldn't help but beat him to the punch.

But before that, Shane was looking really, really ordinary. Vargas, Collazo, Mayorga - seriously, I think Shane might win a couple of rounds early, but I think it's going to be a long frustrating night after that.


Hope I'm wrong though

Another thing about the Margarito fight is that all of that pre-fight chaos seemed to create a definite change in Margarito's level of confidence during the fight, and boosted Shane's.

I hope Floyd wins this one handily which would then put the pressure on Arum to make the fight with Manny. That's really what we care about seeing those two in the same ring later in the year.

[E-Motion]

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Another thing about the Margarito fight is that all of that pre-fight chaos seemed to create a definite change in Margarito's level of confidence during the fight, and boosted Shane's.

Yea I've always thought Margarito wasn't all there mentally that fight as a result of all the dramas.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

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Another thing about the Margarito fight is that all of that pre-fight chaos seemed to create a definite change in Margarito's level of confidence during the fight, and boosted Shane's.

Yea I've always thought Margarito wasn't all there mentally that fight as a result of all the dramas.

Margarito ia already a goner before he even stepped into the ring. He was found out to be a cheat and psychologically wasn't able to recover. Even the weight drained Oscar dela Hoya might have been able to dispose of him.

I am routing for Mosley but I really don't think that he would be able to pull this through. But who knows, anything can happen. He has a chance but I would not bet on it.

[bugtussle]

Go Mosley!!

[Hornfinger]

Shane's old, he's had one decent performance in over 5 years. How he is pound for pound number 3 is beyond me and so is anyone expects him to beat floyd.

Floyd walks this.

[zhubin]

I think Shane deserves great respect for being able to maintain himself as well as he has at this stage of his career. He is still a great athlete and a warrior...so he will not be a cake walk for anyone. Also, i feel like Naseen Richardson has done good work with him. Shane seems to be a bit more fluid and throws more combos....instead of just relying on power punches. That all being said...Floyd will win this fight. If this fight had taken place 10 years ago...Shane very well could have used his tremendous speed, power, and raw athleticism to potentially beat Floyd. But right now...Floyd is just too good a technical fighter...too fluid and sharp. I really think the key to beating Floyd is possessing a GREAT jab and having a solid game plan. Otherwise, Floyd will adapt and use his great speed and reflexes to pick his opponent off. Again, Shane is a warrior...so it should be an exciting fight (and much more interesting than Pac vs. Clottey). But i see Shane running out of answers by the middle of the fight. Floyd on points.

[Hornfinger]

IMO Lyle and the others predicting a Shane win are reading WAY too much into the Margarito performance. Margarito is so slow - Shane couldn't help but beat him to the punch.

But before that, Shane was looking really, really ordinary. Vargas, Collazo, Mayorga - seriously, I think Shane might win a couple of rounds early, but I think it's going to be a long frustrating night after that.


Hope I'm wrong though

You can add winky to that list. you've summed up shane well. Everyone is going off one performance against margarito. IMO that means jack shit. Look at all the fights before that.

[Conrad]

SHut up mate! I don't feel your flow foo! Why don't you just chew up graham crackers till you choke on it coz i don't need to hear your opinion.
And what's the difference in calling pbf my nigga instead of nigger?! Is nigga more humiliating? So if i call a cop coppa instead of copper it would humiliate them more?!
It depends on how i talk it, idiot. The words don't matter. I be down with my nigga floyd and floyd will smash mosley. So am i discriminating floyd by saying my nigga? Nooooope. Actually i am down wit him. Ya dig? Foo.

Is this a joke or does he really talk like that? Street talk?



Hey Takamura, don't be a menace in South Central while drinking your juice in the hood.

[djcione]

just wondering why so many are rooting for Shane.

I still have hope that there will be the mega fight we all want to see between Floyd and Manny, and a loss by either of them would pretty much kill that fight.

[Hornfinger]

SHut up mate! I don't feel your flow foo! Why don't you just chew up graham crackers till you choke on it coz i don't need to hear your opinion.
And what's the difference in calling pbf my nigga instead of nigger?! Is nigga more humiliating? So if i call a cop coppa instead of copper it would humiliate them more?!
It depends on how i talk it, idiot. The words don't matter. I be down with my nigga floyd and floyd will smash mosley. So am i discriminating floyd by saying my nigga? Nooooope. Actually i am down wit him. Ya dig? Foo.

Is this a joke or does he really talk like that? Street talk?



Hey Takamura, don't be a menace in South Central while drinking your juice in the hood.

yo yo yo I got ma ho in da limo!

I Iz down ya dig? ya feel me brother? you iz trippin!! you iz trippin!


See I can do it too!

[GAME]

Shane Mosley WILL BEAT Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Shane's smart, he's strong, he has very quick hands, he's not killing himself to make weight, and Floyd can't hurt him.

I think Floyd has been apprehensive about fighting a couple guys at 147 and rightfully so in some cases: Cotto, Williams, Margarito, Shane Mosley, and Pacquiao. Now of course the Floyd fans will say Floyd has little left to prove and those fights didn't make sense etc etc but Floyd's record speaks for itself he never once said "Give me Cotto and I'll beat him" or "Give me Williams and I'll beat him" he simply waited until they lost and said "See, they weren't worthy of a shot vs me" and it doesn't make sense for Floyd not to fight when the money is to his liking. If he was truly "Money Mayweather" he would have fought at least 3 of those guys because you cannot tell me that ANY of those fights wouldn't have made HUGE money at the gate and on PPV.

Stylistically Floyd has very little to offer Shane, the guys who have beaten Shane either use their height and reach (Forrest & Wright) or are durable enough to trade with Shane and get the better of him (Miguel Cotto and to a lesser extent De la Hoya in the rematch was able to hang with him). Floyd has great defense but he isn't as effective until he gets a fighter to tire themself out, vs Judah and Hatton he allowed them to do work early and chase him around the ring while he pot shotted them for at least half the fight knowing especially that Zab would have 0 to offer him later in the fight and that's when Floyd turned it on....Shane doesn't have much in the defense department but he's strong and he's got fast DANGEROUS hands and he's going to beat Floyd.

Lyle i have already said in a previous post , that Shane will win and be the first to drop and hurt Mayweather.

Floyd has already been hurt and dropped. He took a count vs Hernandez. He was floored by Judah but a count wasnt given. He was hurt by Corley and he was almost floored by Hatton in the 1st . Mosley is alot better than those guys.

[Master]

Only doubt I have about Shane is that he was out boxed by Cotto who is not known for his silky boxing skills. Shane also tends to load up his punches if he runs out of ideas and tries to take people out with one shot.