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    Default Re: I don't see Floyd-Pac being competitive after that performance

    Floyd stops Pacquiao in less than 8 no doubt in my mind

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    Default Re: I don't see Floyd-Pac being competitive after that performance

    I totally disagree with eveyone (that's everyone that agrees with GB).

    I've never given Pac much chance against Floyd but now believe he will KO him. Or get KO'd. Either way someone will be KO'd.
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    Default Re: I don't see Floyd-Pac being competitive after that performance

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    I totally disagree with eveyone (that's everyone that agrees with GB).

    I've never given Pac much chance against Floyd but now believe he will KO him. Or get KO'd. Either way someone will be KO'd.
    So I guess you're going with that someone in the fight will get ko and not go the distance?

    I think Floyd takes it by UD, no ko of Pac. It probably be competitive for say the 1st 3 maybe 4 rounds then Floyd cruises for a UD.

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    Default Re: I don't see Floyd-Pac being competitive after that performance

    Floyd starts slow, Pac starts fast. I think Pac's best hope is to stop him early because if it goes on I think Mayweather will stop him with accumulation. Either Roach throws in the towel or the ref will save him. It's not a foregone conclusion though, it's a fight between two ATGs no way is it an easy call.

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    Default Re: I don't see Floyd-Pac being competitive after that performance

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I think people forget that Manny isn't the same whirlwind against movement, we've seen Marquez and Barrera significantly reduce his offensive effectiveness and output by using distance.

    Also Pacquaio can only use angles if Mayweather allows him to close the gap, otherwise the only option Pacquiao has is to come straight forward at Mayweather and Floyd will see him coming. In a fight between two truly ATG's I think Floyd is just too well rounded, and Manny will never have instinctive skills that Floyd possesses. Manny is truly great and already a top 15 p4p, but Floyd is better than him.
    I think Mayweather hits too hard for him. Pacquiao isn't exactly hard to find. Accumulation around 8 or 9 i reckon. Floyd by TKO.
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    Default Re: I don't see Floyd-Pac being competitive after that performance

    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    I totally disagree with eveyone (that's everyone that agrees with GB).

    I've never given Pac much chance against Floyd but now believe he will KO him. Or get KO'd. Either way someone will be KO'd.
    So I guess you're going with that someone in the fight will get ko and not go the distance?

    I think Floyd takes it by UD, no ko of Pac. It probably be competitive for say the 1st 3 maybe 4 rounds then Floyd cruises for a UD.
    I now think Pac has the ability to not only hurt Floyd, but put him under the type of pressure that will force him to retaliate with fire. Both do the distance with ease, so I wouldn't expect either to look to survive at any point.

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    Default Re: I don't see Floyd-Pac being competitive after that performance

    the key here is for pac to feint. if pac can't pull off the feint, its mayweather's night.

    mosley failed to do this after the second round..

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    Default Re: I don't see Floyd-Pac being competitive after that performance

    imo, mayweather jr./pacquiao will never happen! and it won't happen cause roach is not going to let pacquiao get near the masterful mayweather jr. also, pacquiao's refusal to comply to a simple blood test doesn't help either. i believe floyd jr. is once in a lifetime fighter. it's absolutely incredible what he does to great fighters. he makes them look like ordinary ones. and for those who say mosley was too old? hogwash! mosley might have been "old" in boxing years but he was still a very dangerous opponent and mayweather jr. simply dominated him. with apologies to pacquiao, mayweather jr. is, and has been, boxing's number one p4p fighter in years.

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    Default Re: I don't see Floyd-Pac being competitive after that performance

    Mayweather only got caught in the second round because he changed his usual style and went looking for a knockout. He won't take any chances against Pacneedle and will batter him with hard counters. Mosley had a two inch reach and height advantage last night, Floyd has a three inch reach and two inch height advantage over the Needle. The Needle's face was a mess after fighting Clottey and he hardly threw a punch. He'll be a mess after a few rounds with Floyd and will be slowed right down to the speed Floyd wants to fight at due to getting lumped in the mush every time he tries to hit Floyd. It'll be a shutout or close to it but it won't happen as the Needle will refuse the testing again. And the media will blame Floyd for the fight not happening.

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    Default Re: I don't see Floyd-Pac being competitive after that performance

    Quote Originally Posted by markb018 View Post
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    The man is selling fights. People are trying to downplay his performance which was nothing short of amazing.

    Hate his schtick, fine, but the man is brilliant in the ring.
    Don't think it's a "schtick" at all. I think it's ingrained in his genetic make-up to be a scumbag. But I'm in full agreement: he's a complete wonder in the ring. Definitely an ATG.
    i have heard from numerous people that when meeting Floyd in the public he is nothing short of a gentleman. He takes time to sign autographs, take pictures, etc.
    As he should be. After all, the fans are what has made him a multi-millionaire. Of course, that sounds like I'm discounting all the hard work that goes into the preparation for a fight, but I'm not. These guys break their butts. I also give the man credit for being a technical phenom in the ring.

    Another poster mentioned biases in this thread, which I'm a bit puzzled by:
    There isn't one among us - not one - that doesn't have a bias toward a particular athlete, or a general bias with any host of life events/decisions, etc. It's ridiculous. Having biases is ingrained in our own makeup. It's just part of the human condition.

    Bearing that in mind, I only know of Mayweather from what I've seen on television, the internet and through magazines. I haven't met the man personally. Perhaps I'd be so astonished at what a good, morally upright man he is that I would dramatically change my opinion. But the likelihood of this taking place is remote at best. I just generally favor boxers that minimize the trash talk and do their talking in the ring. But that's just me.

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    Default Re: I don't see Floyd-Pac being competitive after that performance

    Quote Originally Posted by The Shadow View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by markb018 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Shadow View Post

    Don't think it's a "schtick" at all. I think it's ingrained in his genetic make-up to be a scumbag. But I'm in full agreement: he's a complete wonder in the ring. Definitely an ATG.
    i have heard from numerous people that when meeting Floyd in the public he is nothing short of a gentleman. He takes time to sign autographs, take pictures, etc.
    As he should be. After all, the fans are what has made him a multi-millionaire. Of course, that sounds like I'm discounting all the hard work that goes into the preparation for a fight, but I'm not. These guys break their butts. I also give the man credit for being a technical phenom in the ring.

    Another poster mentioned biases in this thread, which I'm a bit puzzled by:
    There isn't one among us - not one - that doesn't have a bias toward a particular athlete, or a general bias with any host of life events/decisions, etc. It's ridiculous. Having biases is ingrained in our own makeup. It's just part of the human condition.

    Bearing that in mind, I only know of Mayweather from what I've seen on television, the internet and through magazines. I haven't met the man personally. Perhaps I'd be so astonished at what a good, morally upright man he is that I would dramatically change my opinion. But the likelihood of this taking place is remote at best. I just generally favor boxers that minimize the trash talk and do their talking in the ring. But that's just me.
    Personally I'd rather a fighter be a jerk to sale a fight "good guy vs bad guy" Then a guy that always acts like a good guy but off the record is a prick. To me thats more annoying.
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    Default Re: I don't see Floyd-Pac being competitive after that performance

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Shadow View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by markb018 View Post

    i have heard from numerous people that when meeting Floyd in the public he is nothing short of a gentleman. He takes time to sign autographs, take pictures, etc.
    As he should be. After all, the fans are what has made him a multi-millionaire. Of course, that sounds like I'm discounting all the hard work that goes into the preparation for a fight, but I'm not. These guys break their butts. I also give the man credit for being a technical phenom in the ring.

    Another poster mentioned biases in this thread, which I'm a bit puzzled by:
    There isn't one among us - not one - that doesn't have a bias toward a particular athlete, or a general bias with any host of life events/decisions, etc. It's ridiculous. Having biases is ingrained in our own makeup. It's just part of the human condition.

    Bearing that in mind, I only know of Mayweather from what I've seen on television, the internet and through magazines. I haven't met the man personally. Perhaps I'd be so astonished at what a good, morally upright man he is that I would dramatically change my opinion. But the likelihood of this taking place is remote at best. I just generally favor boxers that minimize the trash talk and do their talking in the ring. But that's just me.
    Personally I'd rather a fighter be a jerk to sale a fight "good guy vs bad guy" Then a guy that always acts like a good guy but off the record is a prick. To me thats more annoying.
    Point well taken, M. I completely understand where you are coming from, but I respectfully disagree. If trash-talk and being a "jerk" is what it takes to sell a fight, we'd have a ton of Mayorga's fighting each other. Perhaps I'm just an old-fashioned idealist, and believe that talent and style contrasts should ultimately sell a fight. However, marketing is an important factor. But that doesn't mean that marketing has to be reduced to fighters' trash-talk.

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    i think floyd will make his face look like a blueberry pancake by the 10th round and it will be stopped because it will be sad to watch mannys head constantly get snapped back, people tend to forget....MANNYS HUMAN.....he reacts to punches as well, theres noway he will be able to throw1000+ punches against mayweather, mayweather will break him down

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    Default Re: I don't see Floyd-Pac being competitive after that performance

    Quote Originally Posted by Boxer4life View Post
    i think floyd will make his face look like a blueberry pancake by the 10th round and it will be stopped because it will be sad to watch mannys head constantly get snapped back, people tend to forget....MANNYS HUMAN.....he reacts to punches as well, theres noway he will be able to throw1000+ punches against mayweather, mayweather will break him down
    only if he's not on something

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    Quote Originally Posted by djcione View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boxer4life View Post
    i think floyd will make his face look like a blueberry pancake by the 10th round and it will be stopped because it will be sad to watch mannys head constantly get snapped back, people tend to forget....MANNYS HUMAN.....he reacts to punches as well, theres noway he will be able to throw1000+ punches against mayweather, mayweather will break him down
    only if he's not on something
    he wont have a chance to be if he agress to the demands by may

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