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    Default Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik

    I ended up just watching and not really scoring round by round, but I think it must be closer than letterman's card.

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    Default Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik

    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    I will assume Devon gets the decision and if that happens this fight will be good for him. He needs to block out the BS, he put way too much pressure on himself, with this rams addressing bs, carrying STL....didnt he learn from spinks

    If Kotelnik could punch like Judah, this fight would have been over.....
    He rocked Alexander or at least knocked him off balance. Now I may have to rethink if Alexander and Judah fought considering. But this was a very bad night for Alexander with the lights on him brightest.
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    Default Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
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    Easy to say tonight,but a boxing and mobile Bradley right hand would tax Alexander very badly. He squares,stays extended

    bradley would give Alexander a lot more chances to counter and Kotelnik is beating Alexander by out jabbing and out timing him.

    Lederman has it a shut out, Harold needs his eyes checked.
    Not sold on his power to badly hurt Bradley and think Tim more versatile in and out. Devons left uppercut is there to be countered middle...good fight tonight yeh

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    Default Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik

    Khan stops him for me, as would Bradley.

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    Haa...nice t shirt.Make that fight !!!!! Shit is Alexander stoned on hash,looks so sleepy

    Kellerman btw....Bradley dont want to fight Devon because Alexander "looked vulnerable" but because he's a champion.Dickweed !

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    Default Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik

    In a way this could be a great thing to happen to Alexander. All the things that happened with the pressure and the difficulty, could be a great store of experience for him to draw on. Maybe next time he comes out more relaxed, in the same kind of situation. I think that was much of his problem tonight.

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    Yeah I mean fighters have off night look at Mayweather Castillo. You cant just write off devon yet. But Khan had his bad night against Prescott and obviously he is better than Braidis so we will see.....I think Khan, Bradley and Devon are all good but if I would have to pick one I almost think Khan would be the one, not by a huge margin but he is good techinically and is big for 140.......

    But the thing that has really got me thinking now is of Devon addresiing the STL rams, I mean this kid is 140 and probably weighs less than the linemans leg, must have been a funny sight..
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    Default Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Any time a fighter thanks God I immediately start wanting to see them get knocked out.
    Agreed, and we get a 2fer...

    In the end Alexander practiced what he preached and did dig deep. He would have been better served though, to have just worked on landing and changing up his speed and combos a bit more.
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    Default Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik

    I didn't see the fight as I went out with the wife, but it sounds like Kotelnik put up a hell of a fight. Honestly, I though Alexander would roll right through him, but he's still a young fighter with a lot to learn. He's got all the skills to be great though. Kotelnik isn't a bad fighter either, I think I've only seen him fight two times (Maidana and Khan), and while I was pretty high on him after the Maidana fight and pretty low on him after the Khan fight (I predicted he'd push Khan to a close, disputed decision), it seems like he's better than I thought.

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    Default Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik

    Those scorecards were nonsense.

    Kotelnik really came on in the second half of the fight and won most of the rounds with clean effective punching.

    Alexander looked out of it in the post fight interview.

    Def a lot closer than Harold and the St. Louis judges had it.

    YOur only as good as your last fight, and right now Alexander isn't looking too good.
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    Default Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik

    I also think this could be a case of Alexander overlooking Kotelnik as essentially a formality with the Bradley fight on the horizon.

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    Harold letterman and the judges have lost thier minds kotelnik damn near won that fight. I'm not so quick to shit on the devon. Fights like these are good, better than watching him fight someone he can destroy in a couple of rounds. These guys now a days are more concenred with how they look than who they fight, and that's one of the problems. Both bradley and alexander had good tough fights so one between them should be good too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mar View Post
    Harold letterman and the judges have lost thier minds kotelnik damn near won that fight. I'm not so quick to shit on the devon. Fights like these are good, better than watching him fight someone he can destroy in a couple of rounds. These guys now a days are more concenred with how they look than who they fight, and that's one of the problems. Both bradley and alexander had good tough fights so one between them should be good too
    Exactly. I, once again, agree 100%.

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    Default Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik

    Kotelnik was a lot better tonight then against Khan, a lot of credit to him. That was a close fight though no matter what. Alexander is far far to predictable though, he keeps his head still and he seemed really bothered with pressure and volume. And christ he took a shit ton of jabs. He just happens to have a great heart, he never quit on himself and he gutted out a close and maybe a lucky win. Kellerman said it right 'long on the intangibles, short on the tangibles', he has some genuine refining to do before he ever steps in with someone who fights as smart and as slick as Bradley. He's green and that's expected! He hasn't fought near the competition until now of Khan or Bradley, Witter just didn't put up much of a fight imo.

    Sad for Kotelnik he fought a great fight. When you see someone gut through a tough tough fight like that, similar to what Berto went through with Luis Collazo, you want to see how they come back and adjust to not let that ever happen again. In my opinion, Berto really hasn't changed much at all since that fight but Alexander is young and seemingly driven enough to where he can keep improving. It can be a great learning experience.
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    So what were the results on the card? I've read through the thread trying to put it together.

    Am I saying Kotelnik lost by UD, but the judges were a bit generous?

    Cloud won by UD but found it hard?

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