RUSSIANS OWN THE HEAVYWIEGHT DIVISION!!!!

[superheavyrhun]

Why is all this russian talk of the Heavyweight division? Whats the big deal who has the belt?

Ummmm...I think it is quite a big deal who has the main four belts.....that is what everyone is in boxing for after all, to win championships. And 95% of the time, who has the belts does indicate who are in the top tier of each division.

Or were you being sarcastic? (is there a sarcastic smiley?)

[Lionheart Lacy]

russians arnt jus taking over in boxing,

UFC champ was arlovski who is gonna be champ again in a few weeks.
he's russian, this guy dominated the mma in america like no other!

in PRIDE FC, has the best fighters and fights in the world...FEDOR who is also a russian, is the heavyweight champ! infact this guys undefeated too. Best mmartist eva. he is the equivlant to a mike tyson 88' .

its not jus happening in boxing!

[BoxingGorilla]

It's the most downtrodden of people that become the best fighters. I always had a secret plan to go to the Ozarks and find the meanest, dirtiest, ugliest, kid you can find, and make him a champion. Some child whose mother never bounced him on her knee, whose father beat him like a borrowed mule, who never got a Christmas present and never had a birthday cake.

Take him and lock him in your basement with weights, heavy and speed bags, gloves, and a TV that shows nothing but fight footage 24 hrs a day. Then when he is ready bring him out and let him clean house...

[SalTheButcher]

WTF IS GOIN ON HERE?

THERE IS ONLY 1 RUSSIAN HW CHAMP, AND ONLY ONE OTHER RUSSIAN BORN DECENT HW

[DaxxKahn]

not really that impressed with any of them atm
Sergio is good, but Wlad is chinny

i think wlad chin is okay...he has a brutal offense his oppenent have to survive and a jab thats hard to past by and now his able to last 12 rounds...i think wlad is the best heavyweight out there right now...he was knock around by sanders but sanders can knock any one out...and wlad was drop by sam peter but again sam has a strong punch...the knock out lost to brewster i think that was due to wlad getting drug or just wasn't in condition but weird how he got tired all of a sudden in that fight...

Truth is his chin is horrible and he has problems with fighters who move a lot. His offense is very good and he throws his punches perfect but he has to do everything mechanicaly. Problem is there is a difference between knowing how to get past him and actually doing it. If Wlad ever learns how to deal with pressure and guys who come at him hard the way sanders did he could have a long reign

[Wacko3205]

not really that impressed with any of them atm
Sergio is good, but Wlad is chinny

i think wlad chin is okay...he has a brutal offense his oppenent have to survive and a jab thats hard to past by and now his able to last 12 rounds...i think wlad is the best heavyweight out there right now...he was knock around by sanders but sanders can knock any one out...and wlad was drop by sam peter but again sam has a strong punch...the knock out lost to brewster i think that was due to wlad getting drug or just wasn't in condition but weird how he got tired all of a sudden in that fight...

Truth is his chin is horrible and he has problems with fighters who move a lot. His offense is very good and he throws his punches perfect but he has to do everything mechanicaly. Problem is there is a difference between knowing how to get past him and actually doing it. If Wlad ever learns how to deal with pressure and guys who come at him hard the way sanders did he could have a long reign

Truth is...his chin has proven to be more than durable...watch his fights...it aint his chin...it's his stamina.

A man that get's clocked by one of the harder hitters (Sanders/Peter/Brewster) with flush shots & still get's up does not have a bad chin...a man that throws more punches than most 200+ pounders & then gasps for air until he falls to the canvas has a stamina problem.

[sillent killer]

Truth is that Wlad is the MAN in weak HWD for now.Who is next

[BoxingCoachBW]

valuev is the only russian HW champ

and sultan is the only other russian born good HW

klitschkos = unkranian, wladimir = born in kazakhstan
sergei = belarus

WHAT

Do you realize what all these use to be?

Good Luck,

Coach

That means you are British, Coach !

LOL, you got that X!!!

Well, I feel they are all the same....

I just watched that Witherspoon kid fight last night....I like that kid, he looked good in a ring that was obviously hard for lighter fighters to fight in....

I like the kids personal history with fighting and Weight issues...

He seems to be well disciplined and presents himself well in the ring, Oh yeah, HE LISTENS EXTREMELY WELL!!!!

He might have a good future in the division...

[SalTheButcher]

they are all SOVIET, not russian, that would be like calling someone from kansas a new yorker

[X]

Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, we have seen two things:

- the Eastern European states have been opened up to the west much more than under the Soviets
- economic bankruptcy has led to the creation of a new underclass. In the UK now (especially in the South) nearly every low paid menial job is filled by an eastern european. That is not because they are any worse, or more stupid than anyone else, but simply that they come from a poorer background.

This means that we will see more and more eastern europeans in sports. The great Soviet and eastern bloc tradition of sport will help this, but the main contributor is that poor desperate people and immigrants tend to dominate sports like boxing (see: the Irish and the Jews in 1900 London and the states a bit later on, american black people after that, and now the Eastern Europeans?)

I suspect that we will get to see some great fighters in the next ten years who are Eastern European.

What do people think?

[Scrap]

I think you are absolutely correct, and further more you could be right.