Roach has to stop sparring after Khan hurts Pac?

[Gandalf]

... I almost never believe camp reports, 90% of them are untrue. More important than fans believing this garbage is their attempt to get the other camp to believe it. If these guys win they had the greatest camp of their life, if they loose then they overtrained, had problems with weight insert whatever excuse you want. Not to mention khans bs is right up there with the crap haye and the mayweathers spew out of their mouths .

It's more like there is a certain truth to 90% of training reports.

Why would you want the other camp to think you are struggling? Do you think Margarito will stop training now he's heard Pac ain't looking good?

Mar's right 90% are usually untrue. Hatton would have been the winner against Pac if those reports that Pac looked bad and distracted were correct and that Hatton was in the best camp of his life, but it wasn't. Same thing with the training camp for preparing to fight Cotto where there was some typhoon in the Phillipines and Pac was distracted and camp couldn't start. He still went out to batter Miguel.

On another note, I thought it's kind of funny that Khan's fans seems to think it's really true about Pac getting beat up by Khan and that Manny couldn't lay a glove on him or even hurt him.

Really? Can you or Mar prove that for me?

My post had nothing to do with this report about Khan and Pac. I would bet there's a semblance of truth to most training reports, not that they are 100% truth.

Funny how the Khan haters are so quick to dismiss this report as bullshit.

Well, in response to your 'factometer' can you prove these kinds of rumours to be 90% true? You would need to do some research and provide some kind of methodology but I would be interested to see your results as you were throwing around numbers first. Or was it just in your own humble opinion, just like you are calling for Mar and GB's own actual research numbers?

I never said they were 90% true. Mar used that number first. Get your facts right.

You said this....

"It's more like there is a certain truth to 90% of training reports."

You said that. It wasn't Mar, it wasn't GB...that was you. My observations are on the money, you are just factually incorrect.

[Memphis]

... I almost never believe camp reports, 90% of them are untrue. More important than fans believing this garbage is their attempt to get the other camp to believe it. If these guys win they had the greatest camp of their life, if they loose then they overtrained, had problems with weight insert whatever excuse you want. Not to mention khans bs is right up there with the crap haye and the mayweathers spew out of their mouths .

It's more like there is a certain truth to 90% of training reports.

Why would you want the other camp to think you are struggling? Do you think Margarito will stop training now he's heard Pac ain't looking good?

Mar's right 90% are usually untrue. Hatton would have been the winner against Pac if those reports that Pac looked bad and distracted were correct and that Hatton was in the best camp of his life, but it wasn't. Same thing with the training camp for preparing to fight Cotto where there was some typhoon in the Phillipines and Pac was distracted and camp couldn't start. He still went out to batter Miguel.

On another note, I thought it's kind of funny that Khan's fans seems to think it's really true about Pac getting beat up by Khan and that Manny couldn't lay a glove on him or even hurt him.

Who are these people?

[ono]

... I almost never believe camp reports, 90% of them are untrue. More important than fans believing this garbage is their attempt to get the other camp to believe it. If these guys win they had the greatest camp of their life, if they loose then they overtrained, had problems with weight insert whatever excuse you want. Not to mention khans bs is right up there with the crap haye and the mayweathers spew out of their mouths .

It's more like there is a certain truth to 90% of training reports.

Why would you want the other camp to think you are struggling? Do you think Margarito will stop training now he's heard Pac ain't looking good?

Mar's right 90% are usually untrue. Hatton would have been the winner against Pac if those reports that Pac looked bad and distracted were correct and that Hatton was in the best camp of his life, but it wasn't. Same thing with the training camp for preparing to fight Cotto where there was some typhoon in the Phillipines and Pac was distracted and camp couldn't start. He still went out to batter Miguel.

On another note, I thought it's kind of funny that Khan's fans seems to think it's really true about Pac getting beat up by Khan and that Manny couldn't lay a glove on him or even hurt him.

Who are these people?

I think he invented them to be fair.

[Fenster]

... I almost never believe camp reports, 90% of them are untrue. More important than fans believing this garbage is their attempt to get the other camp to believe it. If these guys win they had the greatest camp of their life, if they loose then they overtrained, had problems with weight insert whatever excuse you want. Not to mention khans bs is right up there with the crap haye and the mayweathers spew out of their mouths .

It's more like there is a certain truth to 90% of training reports.

Why would you want the other camp to think you are struggling? Do you think Margarito will stop training now he's heard Pac ain't looking good?

Mar's right 90% are usually untrue. Hatton would have been the winner against Pac if those reports that Pac looked bad and distracted were correct and that Hatton was in the best camp of his life, but it wasn't. Same thing with the training camp for preparing to fight Cotto where there was some typhoon in the Phillipines and Pac was distracted and camp couldn't start. He still went out to batter Miguel.

On another note, I thought it's kind of funny that Khan's fans seems to think it's really true about Pac getting beat up by Khan and that Manny couldn't lay a glove on him or even hurt him.

Really? Can you or Mar prove that for me?

My post had nothing to do with this report about Khan and Pac. I would bet there's a semblance of truth to most training reports, not that they are 100% truth.

Funny how the Khan haters are so quick to dismiss this report as bullshit.

Well, in response to your 'factometer' can you prove these kinds of rumours to be 90% true? You would need to do some research and provide some kind of methodology but I would be interested to see your results as you were throwing around numbers first. Or was it just in your own humble opinion, just like you are calling for Mar and GB's own actual research numbers?

I never said they were 90% true. Mar used that number first. Get your facts right.

You said this....

"It's more like there is a certain truth to 90% of training reports."

You said that. It wasn't Mar, it wasn't GB...that was you. My observations are on the money, you are just factually incorrect.

... I almost never believe camp reports, 90% of them are untrue.

That quote is from the 9th post on this thread. I made the 10th post. I was clearly responding to it.

So for the second time.. Get your fucking facts straight.

[ono]

... I almost never believe camp reports, 90% of them are untrue. More important than fans believing this garbage is their attempt to get the other camp to believe it. If these guys win they had the greatest camp of their life, if they loose then they overtrained, had problems with weight insert whatever excuse you want. Not to mention khans bs is right up there with the crap haye and the mayweathers spew out of their mouths .

It's more like there is a certain truth to 90% of training reports.

Why would you want the other camp to think you are struggling? Do you think Margarito will stop training now he's heard Pac ain't looking good?

Mar's right 90% are usually untrue. Hatton would have been the winner against Pac if those reports that Pac looked bad and distracted were correct and that Hatton was in the best camp of his life, but it wasn't. Same thing with the training camp for preparing to fight Cotto where there was some typhoon in the Phillipines and Pac was distracted and camp couldn't start. He still went out to batter Miguel.

On another note, I thought it's kind of funny that Khan's fans seems to think it's really true about Pac getting beat up by Khan and that Manny couldn't lay a glove on him or even hurt him.

Really? Can you or Mar prove that for me?

My post had nothing to do with this report about Khan and Pac. I would bet there's a semblance of truth to most training reports, not that they are 100% truth.

Funny how the Khan haters are so quick to dismiss this report as bullshit.

Well, in response to your 'factometer' can you prove these kinds of rumours to be 90% true? You would need to do some research and provide some kind of methodology but I would be interested to see your results as you were throwing around numbers first. Or was it just in your own humble opinion, just like you are calling for Mar and GB's own actual research numbers?

I never said they were 90% true. Mar used that number first. Get your facts right.

You said this....

"It's more like there is a certain truth to 90% of training reports."

You said that. It wasn't Mar, it wasn't GB...that was you. My observations are on the money, you are just factually incorrect.

... I almost never believe camp reports, 90% of them are untrue.

That quote is from the 9th post on this thread. I made the 10th post. I was clearly responding to it.

So for the second time.. Get your fucking facts straight.

Yeah what Fen was trying to say is, actually it's probably more likely that there is an element of truth to 90% of training reports. He used the figure 90% because it was originally quoted by Mar. I'm pretty sure Fen doesn't really have a figure in mind. He just used the 90%, because Mar used it. IT was Fen's way of saying 'actually i think the opposite is more believable'

[Gandalf]

... I almost never believe camp reports, 90% of them are untrue. More important than fans believing this garbage is their attempt to get the other camp to believe it. If these guys win they had the greatest camp of their life, if they loose then they overtrained, had problems with weight insert whatever excuse you want. Not to mention khans bs is right up there with the crap haye and the mayweathers spew out of their mouths .

It's more like there is a certain truth to 90% of training reports.

Why would you want the other camp to think you are struggling? Do you think Margarito will stop training now he's heard Pac ain't looking good?

So, yeah, I will quote the same piece again. Did you not type this, Fenster?

[generalbulldog]

... I almost never believe camp reports, 90% of them are untrue. More important than fans believing this garbage is their attempt to get the other camp to believe it. If these guys win they had the greatest camp of their life, if they loose then they overtrained, had problems with weight insert whatever excuse you want. Not to mention khans bs is right up there with the crap haye and the mayweathers spew out of their mouths .

It's more like there is a certain truth to 90% of training reports.

Why would you want the other camp to think you are struggling? Do you think Margarito will stop training now he's heard Pac ain't looking good?

Mar's right 90% are usually untrue. Hatton would have been the winner against Pac if those reports that Pac looked bad and distracted were correct and that Hatton was in the best camp of his life, but it wasn't. Same thing with the training camp for preparing to fight Cotto where there was some typhoon in the Phillipines and Pac was distracted and camp couldn't start. He still went out to batter Miguel.

On another note, I thought it's kind of funny that Khan's fans seems to think it's really true about Pac getting beat up by Khan and that Manny couldn't lay a glove on him or even hurt him.

Who are these people?

I think he invented them to be fair.

They are all over boxing scene which i frequent for my news and other boxing websites. And a few in this thread that generally believes Khan batter the shit out of Pac. And they said that since I'm a Khan hater, how do I know it's not true that Khan was beating up on Pac?

All I know is this, that Miguel Cotto with 8 oz gloves caught Pac a few times flush on the chin without any headgear I might add, so how would Khan with 16 oz gloves beating the shit out of Pac wearing headgear?

[Cressa121]

I tend not to listen to too many of these stories coming out of camp, you can never know how much truth are in them. Though I do think the rumours about Pacquiao not being especially focused in this camp, particularly while in the Phillipines, could be true. He seems to be taking his political role very seriously, and from the first 24/7 episode it was quite clear that it was causing some problems but I'd still expect him to be in great shape as always when he gets in the ring against Margarito

[ono]

... I almost never believe camp reports, 90% of them are untrue. More important than fans believing this garbage is their attempt to get the other camp to believe it. If these guys win they had the greatest camp of their life, if they loose then they overtrained, had problems with weight insert whatever excuse you want. Not to mention khans bs is right up there with the crap haye and the mayweathers spew out of their mouths .

It's more like there is a certain truth to 90% of training reports.

Why would you want the other camp to think you are struggling? Do you think Margarito will stop training now he's heard Pac ain't looking good?

Mar's right 90% are usually untrue. Hatton would have been the winner against Pac if those reports that Pac looked bad and distracted were correct and that Hatton was in the best camp of his life, but it wasn't. Same thing with the training camp for preparing to fight Cotto where there was some typhoon in the Phillipines and Pac was distracted and camp couldn't start. He still went out to batter Miguel.

On another note, I thought it's kind of funny that Khan's fans seems to think it's really true about Pac getting beat up by Khan and that Manny couldn't lay a glove on him or even hurt him.

Who are these people?

I think he invented them to be fair.

They are all over boxing scene which i frequent for my news and other boxing websites. And a few in this thread that generally believes Khan batter the shit out of Pac. And they said that since I'm a Khan hater, how do I know it's not true that Khan was beating up on Pac?

All I know is this, that Miguel Cotto with 8 oz gloves caught Pac a few times flush on the chin without any headgear I might add, so how would Khan with 16 oz gloves beating the shit out of Pac wearing headgear?

Who in this thread believes Khan would batter the shit out of Pacquiao? All i can see is me and Fenster saying there could be an element of truth to it this instance...

[Memphis]

... I almost never believe camp reports, 90% of them are untrue. More important than fans believing this garbage is their attempt to get the other camp to believe it. If these guys win they had the greatest camp of their life, if they loose then they overtrained, had problems with weight insert whatever excuse you want. Not to mention khans bs is right up there with the crap haye and the mayweathers spew out of their mouths .

It's more like there is a certain truth to 90% of training reports.

Why would you want the other camp to think you are struggling? Do you think Margarito will stop training now he's heard Pac ain't looking good?

Mar's right 90% are usually untrue. Hatton would have been the winner against Pac if those reports that Pac looked bad and distracted were correct and that Hatton was in the best camp of his life, but it wasn't. Same thing with the training camp for preparing to fight Cotto where there was some typhoon in the Phillipines and Pac was distracted and camp couldn't start. He still went out to batter Miguel.

On another note, I thought it's kind of funny that Khan's fans seems to think it's really true about Pac getting beat up by Khan and that Manny couldn't lay a glove on him or even hurt him.

Who are these people?

I think he invented them to be fair.

They are all over boxing scene which i frequent for my news and other boxing websites. And a few in this thread that generally believes Khan batter the shit out of Pac. And they said that since I'm a Khan hater, how do I know it's not true that Khan was beating up on Pac?

All I know is this, that Miguel Cotto with 8 oz gloves caught Pac a few times flush on the chin without any headgear I might add, so how would Khan with 16 oz gloves beating the shit out of Pac wearing headgear?

Seriously who do think on this site let alone in this thread believes that Khan beats Pac up?

[generalbulldog]

... I almost never believe camp reports, 90% of them are untrue. More important than fans believing this garbage is their attempt to get the other camp to believe it. If these guys win they had the greatest camp of their life, if they loose then they overtrained, had problems with weight insert whatever excuse you want. Not to mention khans bs is right up there with the crap haye and the mayweathers spew out of their mouths .

It's more like there is a certain truth to 90% of training reports.

Why would you want the other camp to think you are struggling? Do you think Margarito will stop training now he's heard Pac ain't looking good?

Mar's right 90% are usually untrue. Hatton would have been the winner against Pac if those reports that Pac looked bad and distracted were correct and that Hatton was in the best camp of his life, but it wasn't. Same thing with the training camp for preparing to fight Cotto where there was some typhoon in the Phillipines and Pac was distracted and camp couldn't start. He still went out to batter Miguel.

On another note, I thought it's kind of funny that Khan's fans seems to think it's really true about Pac getting beat up by Khan and that Manny couldn't lay a glove on him or even hurt him.

Who are these people?

I think he invented them to be fair.

They are all over boxing scene which i frequent for my news and other boxing websites. And a few in this thread that generally believes Khan batter the shit out of Pac. And they said that since I'm a Khan hater, how do I know it's not true that Khan was beating up on Pac?

All I know is this, that Miguel Cotto with 8 oz gloves caught Pac a few times flush on the chin without any headgear I might add, so how would Khan with 16 oz gloves beating the shit out of Pac wearing headgear?

Who in this thread believes Khan would batter the shit out of Pacquiao? All i can see is me and Fenster saying there could be an element of truth to it this instance...

Not would, but already did. In fact someone in here was quick to call me as a hater that just dismissed it as bullshit.

Funny how the Khan haters are so quick to dismiss this report as bullshit.

So you guys believe what you wanna believe I'll believe what makes sense to me. That the report was bullshit to drum up drama and expectation for the fight. We'll just agree to disagree.

[0james0]

I think in time Khan could batter Pac.

But not anytime soon. Especially not in training. Remember last time there was the rumour Pac got floored by a local?

[Fenster]

... I almost never believe camp reports, 90% of them are untrue. More important than fans believing this garbage is their attempt to get the other camp to believe it. If these guys win they had the greatest camp of their life, if they loose then they overtrained, had problems with weight insert whatever excuse you want. Not to mention khans bs is right up there with the crap haye and the mayweathers spew out of their mouths .

It's more like there is a certain truth to 90% of training reports.

Why would you want the other camp to think you are struggling? Do you think Margarito will stop training now he's heard Pac ain't looking good?

Mar's right 90% are usually untrue. Hatton would have been the winner against Pac if those reports that Pac looked bad and distracted were correct and that Hatton was in the best camp of his life, but it wasn't. Same thing with the training camp for preparing to fight Cotto where there was some typhoon in the Phillipines and Pac was distracted and camp couldn't start. He still went out to batter Miguel.

On another note, I thought it's kind of funny that Khan's fans seems to think it's really true about Pac getting beat up by Khan and that Manny couldn't lay a glove on him or even hurt him.

Who are these people?

I think he invented them to be fair.

They are all over boxing scene which i frequent for my news and other boxing websites. And a few in this thread that generally believes Khan batter the shit out of Pac. And they said that since I'm a Khan hater, how do I know it's not true that Khan was beating up on Pac?

All I know is this, that Miguel Cotto with 8 oz gloves caught Pac a few times flush on the chin without any headgear I might add, so how would Khan with 16 oz gloves beating the shit out of Pac wearing headgear?

Who in this thread believes Khan would batter the shit out of Pacquiao? All i can see is me and Fenster saying there could be an element of truth to it this instance...

Not would, but already did. In fact someone in here was quick to call me as a hater that just dismissed it as bullshit.

Funny how the Khan haters are so quick to dismiss this report as bullshit.

So you guys believe what you wanna believe I'll believe what makes sense to me. That the report was bullshit to drum up drama and expectation for the fight. We'll just agree to disagree.

My original post had NOTHING to do with whether or not Khan hurt Pac. I was purely questioning Mar about training camp gossip.

You've got things seriously twisted. I know what your problem is now though, you go around all the other boxing forums reading comments then come on here and mistakenly attribute the opinions to posters on this site.

The only person that has mentioned Khan beating up Pac in this thread is YOU

[Master]

Hype to make Pac look bad and people to buy the fight which should be a one sided beating and Amir's next fight.

[Andre]

... I almost never believe camp reports, 90% of them are untrue. More important than fans believing this garbage is their attempt to get the other camp to believe it. If these guys win they had the greatest camp of their life, if they loose then they overtrained, had problems with weight insert whatever excuse you want. Not to mention khans bs is right up there with the crap haye and the mayweathers spew out of their mouths .

It's more like there is a certain truth to 89% of training reports.

Why would you want the other camp to think you are struggling? Do you think Margarito will stop training now he's heard Pac ain't looking good?

So, yeah, I will quote the same piece again. Did you not type this, Fenster?

There I fixed it , .